Covid Vaccine

[Steelr4evr]

Too soon?

COVID POSITIVE: White House press secretary reveals infection, details last contact with Biden

White House press secretary Jen Psaki said Sunday she has tested positive for COVID-19 despite being vaccinated.

www.foxnews.com

That's not possible. Imposter Joe Bob the Amazing Babbling Circus Clown said so.

 

[Steeltime]

That's not possible. Imposter Joe Bob the Amazing Babbling Circus Clown said so.

When told about Psaki's Chinese flu infection despite three shots and a chaser, Sloppy Joe the Amazing Babbling Circus Clown responded, "I'm shittin' me."

 

[Superman]

tHe AduLtS aRe BaCk iN ChArGe!

Biden coughs into hand, proceeds to shake hands with public while maskless

President Biden coughed into his hand following a Monday speech in New Jersey and proceeded to use it to shake hands with members of the public while not wearing a mask.

www.foxnews.com

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

So is myocarditis a new thing or is the experimental gene therapy really not all that safe and effective?

Purely coincidence Ogre. We been told so.

We been told not to look at these reports as cause for concern. There's no causality. Thus there is nothing to see.
We been told, the CDC is investigating every single one of these reports and if there was something there, they'd report it.
We been told, if anything was shown from these reports, they'd remove these vaccines pronto (forget the $20Billion generated by one alone, they would PULL it fer sure)

18,000 reported deaths to VAERS (just one system, only 1% of all reports), dwarfing all other vaccines combined for 30 years...."There's nothing to be worried about"



It's all...just...coincidence.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

But Pfizer is full steam ahead. Jab those kids!!!!!!!

FDA delays Moderna approval for kids… We’re looking at Myocarditis​

The FDA review for an emergency use authorization of Moderna’s Vaccine for adolescents as young as 12 years old is being delayed as the agency takes a deeper look into a possible heart risk, Moderna said on Sunday.

The review of the possible heart risk, a heart muscle inflammation called myocarditis, may push back approval until early 2022, the agency warned Moderna.

“The Company is fully committed to working closely with the FDA to support their review and is grateful to the FDA for their diligence,” Moderna said in a statement.

According to the CDC, reported cases of myocarditis have occurred usually a few days after getting the COVID vaccine and mostly after receiving the second dose.

The CDC said that the heart risk has been reported after receiving either the Pfizer or Moderna COVID-19 vaccine mostly among young adults and male adolescents.

Moderna said that as a result of the delayed FDA assessment, it would delay filing a request to seek emergency use authorization of their COVID-19 vaccine for children aged 6 to 11.

“It is estimated that over 1.5 million adolescents have received the Moderna COVID vaccine. To date, the observed rate of myocarditis reports in those less than 18 years of age in Moderna’s global safety database does not suggest an increased risk of myocarditis in this population,” the company said.

Pfizer is the only company whose vaccine is authorized for children as young as 12. On Friday, the FDA also authorized its vaccine for children between the ages of 5 and 11 years old for emergency use.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

"The Government isn't going to mandate vaccines. You're all conspiracy nuts. Right wing nut jobs." -- said every Leftist

The Unvaccinated can no longer travel in Canada​

Starting today the unvaccinated won’t be allowed to board planes, trains, ferries in Canada

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Push the vaccines on everyone. Because they are so effective. It will end this pandemic.

TORONTO -- The organizer of an adult hockey league in Newmarket, Ont. is looking for answers after one of his players died and 14 others who were all fully vaccinated became infected with COVID-19 in a matter of days.​

Organizer of fully vaccinated Ontario hockey league where COVID-19 outbreak hit looks for answers

The organizer of an adult hockey league in Newmarket, Ont. is looking for answers after one of his players died and 14 others who were all fully vaccinated became infected with COVID-19 in a matter of days.

toronto.ctvnews.ca

Players were required to provide proof of vaccination and health officials confirmed all were breakthrough infections in fully vaccinated players.

"Certainly it's unusual to see a cluster like this because the vaccines are generally effective," said Dr. Richard Gould,

Health officials are stressing that the COVID-19 vaccine is highly effective, but that breakthrough infections are possible.

​

 

[Troglodyte]

It wasn't dumbass. But it should have prevented a LARGE % of the 23.3% who died while vaccinated. That's a damning number, no matter how much you spin it.




What a stupid diversion. Wouldn't car accident victim stats be lower without the deaths attributed to those people not wearing seatbelts?

Wouldn't the deaths this year be a lot lower if we a) had an effective President, and b) the vaccines actually did what they are supposed to do?



Again, but their deaths this year are HIGHER overall than last year. If overall deaths were dropping while the % of deaths increased among the vaxed, I'd agree. But their deaths overall are INCREASING while the #s of people the vax dying ALSO increases.

Failed argument.



And where do you get that data from? Link?

We do not have national data on what number of people have died this year who were vaccinated v. those who died unvaxed. So I'm using the WA state numbers YOU provided.

Again, a damning offer by you, to share a highly vaccinated state, that saw deaths increasing in 2021 and nearly 1/4 of their deaths are vaxed people.

Not very effective vaccines.

23% of deaths among the 63% vaccinated
77% of deaths among the 37% vaccinated = (.77/.37) - (.23/.63) = 5.7X more likely to die. But that includes the vaccine ineligible 0-11 year olds. If you want to compare only the eligible populations and use the Washington DOH figure for 65+ year olds, the unvaccinated are 9 times more likely to die. CDC said 11X for US. For argument sake, I’ll use 9. Extrapolating to the US, the deaths would be:

Vaccinated: 39,545
Unvaccinated: 355,901

2021 deaths would be a fraction of their current toll had everyone eligible been vaccinated. MATH.

 

[Troglodyte]

Further to my prior post, we have no national data. So I went and explored Maryland. Interesting find from their website. Now, deceptively, they aren't showing September and October where cases/hospitalizations/deaths were still bad, but follow the yellow. They also have left out the partially vaccinated population.

Also keep in mind the fully vaxed get tested far less and likely only when they are symptomatic.

March: 1.28% cases were vaccinated
April: 2.74% cases were vaccinated
May: 5.72% cases were vaccinated
June: 13.71% cases were vaccinated
July: 25.63% cases were vaccinated
August: 28.1% cases were vaccinated

Cases among the vaccinated increased from 1.28% to 28.1% in 6 months. Like...holy ****. Can someone say drastic waning?

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Now look at hospitalizations. Again, no September and October.

March: 1.69% of admissions were vaxed
April: 4.07% of admissions were vaxed
May: 8.76% of admissions were vaxed
June: 17.58% of admissions were vaxed
July: 20.19% of admissions were vaxed
August: 22.99% of admissions were vaxed

Holy **** again.


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Who says it’s due to waning? The number of vaccinated people over those months surged as did the Delta variant. Cases among unvaccinated surged many times more during the same time period.

I believe OFTB tried to explain it to you before. If 100% of the people were vaccinated, 100% of the cases would be vaccinated.

 

[Troglodyte]

Floggy done gone say Nuh-uh!!! Math!

Ireland is 91% Vaccinated and Covid cases are soaring​

In the Republic of Ireland, health officials are running out of people to blame. This has become embarrassingly obvious in County Waterford. As reported in the Irish Times, the nation’s establishment newspaper, two of the three most COVID-infected electoral areas in Ireland are located in the county “with the highest rate of vaccination in the country.”



73% of deaths between October 9 and 16 had received the Vaccine…

Waterford, once the crown jewel of Ireland’s Vaccination program, now has the highest rate of infection in the country. For the first time since March, the number of patients in hospital with Covid in Ireland is over 400. This in a country where 92% of adults have been Vaccinated against the CCP Virus.

It’s worse for County Waterford where almost every single person over the age of 18 has been double jabbed and yet case numbers are surging with more than 700 new cases documented in the last 2 weeks.

The number of vaccinated patients in ICU now is almost as high as the entire number of Covid patients in ICU a year ago. HSE chief clinical officer Dr Colm Henry admitted the figures were “higher than we would like” but added they would be even higher but for the impact of vaccination.

Country roulette, huh?

Current 7 day averages:

Ireland Covid death/100k: .20
US Covid death/100k: .41
WV Covid death/100k: 1.28

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

23% of deaths among the 63% vaccinated
77% of deaths among the 37% vaccinated = (.77/.37) - (.23/.63) = 5.7X more likely to die. But that includes the vaccine ineligible 0-11 year olds. If you want to compare only the eligible populations and use the Washington DOH figure for 65+ year olds, the unvaccinated are 9 times more likely to die. CDC said 11X for US. For argument sake, I’ll use 9. Extrapolating to the US, the deaths would be:

Vaccinated: 39,545
Unvaccinated: 355,901

2021 deaths would be a fraction of their current toll had everyone eligible been vaccinated. MATH.

No dumbass. 23% of their DEATHS among those who DIED were vaccinated. Not among the "vaccinated" population. You continue to abuse "math" by pointing to the entire population. What is important is to look at the cases and deaths and what % of those who have COVID or died from it were Vaxed or not.

There is no denying their data. From Feb 1 to Sep 28, nearly 1/4 of all deaths were people who had the vaccines.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Who says it’s due to waning?

The CDC. The Pfizer CEO. The Moderna CEO. Real science. Medical researchers. The medical community.

The number of vaccinated people over those months surged as did the Delta variant. Cases among unvaccinated surged many times more during the same time period. I believe OFTB tried to explain it to you before. If 100% of the people were vaccinated, 100% of the cases would be vaccinated.

Yep. Cases also surged among the vaccinated. As depicted. Despite us, and you, being told breakthrough cases being extremely rare. Hospitalizations and serious illness increased among the vaccinated.

I believe I have tried explaining as well, that if cases and deaths were noticeably down, you'd have a point. But they weren't. Therefore your argument holds no weight.

We have more deaths in the USA this year while the majority of the country is vaxed than last year with no vaccines.

If a population had 100 deaths with no vaccines in one time period, then vaccines are administered and deaths drop to 10 for a similar time period...if the majority of those deaths are vaxed, your point stands. However, we have MORE deaths this year than last. The argument thus fails.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Country roulette, huh?

Current 7 day averages:

Ireland Covid death/100k: .20
US Covid death/100k: .41
WV Covid death/100k: 1.28

LMAO

Ireland's 2020 cases: 91,779
Ireland's 2021 cases: 348,886
A 280% INCREASE in cases, while uber-vaccinated

Ireland's 2020 deaths: 2,237
Ireland's 2021 deaths: 3,199
A 43% INCREASE in deaths, while uber-vaccinated

If the vaccines were vaccines and not shots, we wouldn't see in 2021 when they are so massively vaccinated a 280% increase in cases and a 41% increase in deaths.

You know...because vaccines prevent spread, serious illness, and death. Yet....cases and deaths rise in Ireland despite being 90% vaccinated.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Innocents will die.

26,000 NYC workers miss the Vaccine mandate deadline and 26 FDNY firehouses are out of service.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

More of that nasty weather...

American Airlines cancels 1,600+ flights​

American Airlines scrubbed more than 1,900 flights over the weekend, the latest in a series of cancellations as the industry struggles to steady itself. Wind gusts triggered American’s problems, slowing arrival rates at the airline’s busy Dallas-Fort Worth hub, David Seymour told employees in a memo Saturday. The cancellations snowballed, as pilots and flight attendants weren’t in the right places for flights.



Wind gusts, huh.

 

[Troglodyte]

No dumbass. 23% of their DEATHS among those who DIED were vaccinated. Not among the "vaccinated" population. You continue to abuse "math" by pointing to the entire population. What is important is to look at the cases and deaths and what % of those who have COVID or died from it were Vaxed or not.

There is no denying their data. From Feb 1 to Sep 28, nearly 1/4 of all deaths were people who had the vaccines.

Yes, I know. 23% of the deaths were vaccinated (63% of population), so the inverse 77% were unvaccinated (37% of the population). If the vaccines aren’t effective why weren’t close to 63% of the deaths vaccinated?

 

[Troglodyte]

LMAO

Ireland's 2020 cases: 91,779
Ireland's 2021 cases: 348,886
A 280% INCREASE in cases, while uber-vaccinated

Ireland's 2020 deaths: 2,237
Ireland's 2021 deaths: 3,199
A 43% INCREASE in deaths, while uber-vaccinated

If the vaccines were vaccines and not shots, we wouldn't see in 2021 when they are so massively vaccinated a 280% increase in cases and a 41% increase in deaths.

You know...because vaccines prevent spread, serious illness, and death. Yet....cases and deaths rise in Ireland despite being 90% vaccinated.

What’s your point in comparing years? 2021 does not equal “vaccinated”. There are still many unvaccinated people dying of Covid.

 

[Steelworth]

If 100% of the people were vaccinated, 100% of the cases would be vaccinated.

Your brilliance knows no bounds.

 

[Superman]

Who says it’s due to waning? The number of vaccinated people over those months surged as did the Delta variant. Cases among unvaccinated surged many times more during the same time period.

I believe OFTB tried to explain it to you before. If 100% of the people were vaccinated, 100% of the cases would be vaccinated.

the manufacturers have said the vaccine wanes.
yet you refuse to believe it.

 

[Superman]

Yes, I know. 23% of the deaths were vaccinated (63% of population), so the inverse 77% were unvaccinated (37% of the population). If the vaccines aren’t effective why weren’t close to 63% of the deaths vaccinated?

your question should be:

If the vaccines are effective, why did 23% die after being vaccinated?

 

[Badcat]

What’s your point in comparing years? 2021 does not equal “vaccinated”. There are still many unvaccinated people dying of Covid.

2020 - most people in Ireland are NOT vaccinated
2021 - Most people in Ireland ARE vaccinated - 90% of them. BBC Source

Covid numbers are DRASTICALLY higher this year in Ireland than last year DESPITE BEING 90% VACCINATED.

Lemme guess, you believe it's due to the delta variant rather than admit that the "vaccine" is doing jack **** right now because the efficacy has waned. Is the Delta variant a part of this? Yes. But you see it the way the MSM wants you to see it.

"beep do beep bop...MSM tell me delta kills...vaccine will stop it for good...vaccine safe...unvaccinated people stupid and selfish...Beep do Beep bop"

 

[Troglodyte]

the manufacturers have said the vaccine wanes.
yet you refuse to believe it.

“Who says it (surge in cases) is due to waning” is not the same as “who says vaccines are waning”.

Actually, cases are down significantly, I guess the vaccines aren’t waning anymore, right?

 

[Steelworth]

“Who says it (surge in cases) is due to waning” is not the same as “who says vaccines are waning”.

Actually, cases are down significantly, I guess the vaccines aren’t waning anymore, right?

You have a quota you have to meet in this thread each day? I mean holy ****, even if someone paid me, wouldn't waste my energy on the nonsense you spew constantly here.

 

[Superman]

“Who says it (surge in cases) is due to waning” is not the same as “who says vaccines are waning”.

Actually, cases are down significantly, I guess the vaccines aren’t waning anymore, right?

then what the **** are you continuing to ***** about?