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Covid Vaccine

jitter77 said:
Numbers are not surprising, but the study skewed toward older people. 77% were older than 50 and 48% older than 65. I know it said the effectiveness waned in both older and younger was it at the same %? I would also like to see numbers in comparison to unvaxed people. Bottom line is the study shows this shot is not a "vaccine" and going to be fights over vaccination status if you dont get shot every few months.
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Ummm......Covid is skewed towards older people, in case erryonne's been forgetting.

Like....if you did a study on Covid cases/hospitalizations/deaths among those 18 and under, what are you gonna find?
 
Tim Steelersfan said:
Ummm......Covid is skewed towards older people, in case erryonne's been forgetting.

Like....if you did a study on Covid cases/hospitalizations/deaths among those 18 and under, what are you gonna find?
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You could study re-infections for one since it is listed on this study. Also how do they test for re-infections? Was everyone in the study tested weekly or were only people with symptoms considered re-infected?
Covid is not skewed toward older people just more serious in older people like any other illness. Just need to take this study for what it is. If there was an even mix of ages the effectiveness of the shot would go up. It doesn't take away from the main points though.
 
Mix and match boosters were extremely frowned upon when Canadian started doing them… novel biotech and everything… the who told them it wasn’t a good idea… just cause two things are similar doesn’t mean they are compatible and it’s not like we are really testing all this stuff against each other or other meds… just kind of flying around by the seat of our pants….
 
Tim Steelersfan said:
Ummm......Covid is skewed towards older people, in case erryonne's been forgetting.

Like....if you did a study on Covid cases/hospitalizations/deaths among those 18 and under, what are you gonna find?
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For one thing, you would find that more young people under 18 have been murdered in Chicago this year than have died from Covid nationwide.
 
jitter77 said:
Bottom line is the study shows this shot is not a "vaccine" ...
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@Troglodyte and @Tibs will be along to hammer your dick in the dirt for this unfounded claim of misinformation of their newfound religion
 
Troglodyte said:
Nope, nothing ideological about refusing the vaccine…

www.nytimes.com

Covid Gets Even Redder

The partisan gap in deaths has grown larger.
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com
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This article is so stupid on so many different levels, I'm not surprised YOU posted it. Let's see.
  • It's from the New York Times - full stop there. I mean how many endless examples of them lying to the public does one need in order to distrust nearly everything they print?
  • His analysis is based upon comparing counties - which voted for Biden, which voted for Trump. The dumbest comparison you can make. If a county went 52% Trump, 48% Biden, he ASSUMES the dying is among just 1/2 of THAT population. What % of those Blue in those Red counties died? How many of them were vaxed or not and died, by political affiliation? 100% of that data is absent.
  • Where are these nefarious counties? The author does an incredibly terrible job of trying to explain that the location of these counties (the geography) does not matter. It totally matters. It matters on many levels he just dismisses as unimportant, because he can't defend them.
  • He states: "Covid deaths have been concentrated in counties outside of major metropolitan areas." This is from HIS own NY Times showing exactly where deaths happened. Gee Gomer, those look to be located around metro areas like NY, Detroit, IL, Seattle, LA, San Fran, Dallas, Austin, Atlanta to me.
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You all call this type of **** science. Good Lord.
 
Ron Burgundy said:
For one thing, you would find that more young people under 18 have been murdered in Chicago this year than have died from Covid nationwide.
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While that is probably true it has 0 to do with this study. In October we had 341 covid cases in people under 18 in my county. None were hospitalized or died, but does not mean that population should be ignored.
 
Troglodyte said:
Nope, nothing ideological about refusing the vaccine…

www.nytimes.com

Covid Gets Even Redder

The partisan gap in deaths has grown larger.
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com
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The Times wants information from me and likely some cash to read their tripe, so that won't be happening.

Fill me in are they saying African Americans and Hispanics are switching to the Republican party?
 

Tim Steelersfan said:
  • It's from the New York Times - full stop there. I mean how many endless examples of them lying to the public does one need in order to distrust nearly everything they print?
  • His analysis is based upon comparing counties - which voted for Biden, which voted for Trump. The dumbest comparison you can make. If a county went 52% Trump, 48% Biden, he ASSUMES the dying is among just 1/2 of THAT population. What % of those Blue in those Red counties died? How many of them were vaxed or not and died, by political affiliation? 100% of that data is absent.
  • Where are these nefarious counties? The author does an incredibly terrible job of trying to explain that the location of these counties (the geography) does not matter. It totally matters. It matters on many levels he just dismisses as unimportant, because he can't defend them.
  • He states: "Covid deaths have been concentrated in counties outside of major metropolitan areas." This is from HIS own NY Times showing exactly where deaths happened. Gee Gomer, those look to be located around metro areas like NY, Detroit, IL, Seattle, LA, San Fran, Dallas, Austin, Atlanta to me.
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You all call this type of **** science. Good Lord.
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Denial ain’t just a river in Egypt, Tim…

 
Those on this forum know that you are a ******* idiot, Floggy, but you have to realize that given the current number of Americans vaccinated (more than 80% of adult population with at least one dose, about 95% over ages 65-75 with at least one dose), and the overall survival rates, your charts and graphs relate to maybe 10 people every six months in large urban areas and probably two guys in states like Idaho and Wyoming.

So basically you are obsessing over a two guys in Wyoming and West Virginia. That's less than the number of guys referenced in the name of that hamburger place, and pretty close to the number of Americans murdered by illegals due to Sloppy Joe's open border policy.

You get that, right? When do you start flipping out over the open border policy, chief?
 
if all Covid deaths in red counties (Flog's newest revisited hill to die on) are because people there refuse to take the vaccine shot, then there must be an equal and opposite reaction in blue counties, where people rush to get the shot, booster 1, booster 2, booster 3, etc, suggesting zero cases and zero deaths.
 
jitter77 said:
In October we had 341 covid cases in people under 18 in my county. None were hospitalized or died, but does not mean that population should be ignored.
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I'm sure that 5x that number suffered a common cold, but none were hospitalized or died - so, they shouldn't be ignored either? Not understanding your reasoning.
 
Ron Burgundy said:
For one thing, you would find that more young people under 18 have been murdered in Chicago this year than have died from Covid nationwide.
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Interesting how we never hear about that though.
 
Superman said:
if all Covid deaths in red counties (Flog's newest revisited hill to die on) are because people there refuse to take the vaccine shot, then there must be an equal and opposite reaction in blue counties, where people rush to get the shot, booster 1, booster 2, booster 3, etc, suggesting zero cases and zero deaths.
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Floggy do be diverting. Trying to make the discussion about the unvaxed. While you make an excellent point. If lack of vaccines leads to death, presence of vaccines means deaths go away, right?

VERMONT (today):
71% vaxed
39% increase in cases (49 per 100k)
8% increase in hospitalizations (8 per 100k)
50% increase in deaths

Doesn't seem to be working that way though. Weird.
 
Steelworth said:
I'm sure that 5x that number suffered a common cold, but none were hospitalized or died - so, they shouldn't be ignored either? Not understanding your reasoning.
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Just saying if your doing a full study on Covid vaccines all populations should be included. The study posted is a good picture representing population of 50+, but not necessarily for all
 
Steeltime said:
Those on this forum know that you are a ******* idiot, Floggy, but you have to realize that given the current number of Americans vaccinated (more than 80% of adult population with at least one dose, about 95% over ages 65-75 with at least one dose), and the overall survival rates, your charts and graphs relate to maybe 10 people every six months in large urban areas and probably two guys in states like Idaho and Wyoming.

So basically you are obsessing over a two guys in Wyoming and West Virginia. That's less than the number of guys referenced in the name of that hamburger place, and pretty close to the number of Americans murdered by illegals due to Sloppy Joe's open border policy.

You get that, right? When do you start flipping out over the open border policy, chief?
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Flipping out? No, I’ll leave that to Ted Cruz and John Nolte. Y’all have lost your ******* minds! Bunch of loonies.
 
Tim Steelersfan said:
Until someone can provide studies BY person, state wide comparisons and county wide comparisons are literally stupid studies.

The fact you can't see this, that the basis of the compare is beyond faulty, surprises no one.
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“By person studies” LOL! You are helplessly clueless when it comes to math and statistics.
 
Tim Steelersfan said:
Floggy do be diverting. Trying to make the discussion about the unvaxed. While you make an excellent point. If lack of vaccines leads to death, presence of vaccines means deaths go away, right?

VERMONT (today):
71% vaxed
39% increase in cases (49 per 100k)
8% increase in hospitalizations (8 per 100k)
50% increase in deaths

Doesn't seem to be working that way though. Weird.
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50% increase in deaths. Right, from 2 to 3. Literally, 2 to 3, go check for yourself. Someone just claimed that you can’t reach any conclusions until you have something called “by person studies”. I wonder why they’d make of this?
 
Tim Steelersfan said:
Floggy do be diverting. Trying to make the discussion about the unvaxed. While you make an excellent point. If lack of vaccines leads to death, presence of vaccines means deaths go away, right?

VERMONT (today):
71% vaxed
39% increase in cases (49 per 100k)
8% increase in hospitalizations (8 per 100k)
50% increase in deaths

Doesn't seem to be working that way though. Weird.
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se, this do be why Flog do skewl you all day, erryday.

Flog be talkin bouts KOWNTEES. Not stateses

Allow me to dispatch your lightwork, Flog...

Since you chose the STATESES of Vermonts and we be talkin KOWNTEES...
there is be 42,313 cases of WooFloo reported in Vermonts. Of those 42k cases in Vermonts, 384 people did be die. 35k Lamonts recovereded from the ChinkyChongFloo.

LINK fo yo dumbass:
www.worldometers.info

Vermont COVID: 42,313 Cases and 384 Deaths - Worldometer

Vermont COVID-19 Coronavirus update by county with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, current active cases, recoveries, historical data, trends, projections, and timeline.
www.worldometers.info www.worldometers.info

Now, Lamonts was a blue stateses. The largest increase of KungFlu in the stateses of Lamonts was Chittenden. New cases: 49.

FOTEENYN

Recent 14 day cases: 670. Six Hunnit Sebentee Lamonts got WooFlooed.

Doe, if you do be look at tha sit-ee of Burlington, Chittendon Kowntee gubmint dashbode page, dey say 83 new cases. ATE TREE!! That Fo-9? Dats the avrige per week.

COVID-19 BTV Dashboard | City of Burlington, Vermont

www.burlingtonvt.gov www.burlingtonvt.gov

Were Chittenden County, Lamont a Bloo Kowntee fo the sangle greatest POOPTUS evar? Damn straight, son. DAMN STRAIGHT. 55.5% of the Kowntee voted fo Brandon.


FITTYFI PONT FI PUHSINT, son!!!!!

and dey be gots 131,000 doses of Holee Vaksine shot up.

they gots 1,258 super smart peepoze in Chittendon Kowntee Lamont, too.


68% of Lamonts be vaxxed


WINNING!!!!!

Consider yo'sef PWNED, Tim!!!!!!

 
 
Troglodyte said:
“By person studies” LOL! You are helplessly clueless when it comes to math and statistics.
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Do you not see the sheer stupidity in comparing Florida to New York, for instance? Of course you don't.

You and the NY Slime assume that EVERYONE in Florida is RED and everyone in New York is BLUE, then make a broad brush comparison between the two on politics.

51.2% in Florida voted for Trump.
47.9% in Florida voted for ShitsHisPants
10.97M votes were cast
21.48M people live in Florida

Of the 10.51M who did NOT vote, how many of them are RED or BLUE? Until just a month ago, there were MORE registered Dems in FL than Republicans.

How does the Slime, or you, know who has been vaxed and who hasn't been in Florida? The closest anyone gets is down to county level data.

Still not granular enough to make any substantial findings.

When people go to the hospital with Covid, they ask - vaxed or not. If they asked political affiliation, then we would have some idea. Now, they are guessing and it's about as unscientific as you can get.
 
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