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Covid Vaccine

Because a lions share of the unvaccinated who are dying are already sick and ineligible for the vaccine… there is the rub… its the people on that other floor that are getting it while being treated for cancer or other immune deficiencies where you can’t be immunized..

I mean others are dying too, but the former is a problem too


The other thing is we aren’t trying to treat people unless they get bad… if they gave me the covid killing drugs on Monday through Friday i never get ill enough for hospitalization… it should be all symptomatic are given some treatment
A lions share? That’s the first I’ve heard that claim. Where did you read that?
 
So again… I am still in the hospital with a freak case of covid… I really really almost died… I still have no interest in the vaccine really… novavax absolutely.. ill be first in line… but a third of tgese doctors and nurses aren’t vaccinated and tgey are fine cause they all already had it…

The potential side effects from the spike protein are not great… and there are plenty of hospitalized vaccinated people


And trust me… even if you are healthy normally.. if you get a different cold or infection Covid will use that as a way past your body’s immune system…

Also these doctors and nurses are all heroes and **** anyone who forces anyone to get anything they don’t want

But this country needs a better gameplan in these hospitals badly… i mean badly….
My coworker has been out since last week. Not real sick but her and her husband tested positive for the 'Rona. They were both vaccinated.
Taking paperwork to the crematory today, guy two years older than me, not overweight, causes of death are Covid and Type 2 diabetes. I'm not overweight and I have Type 2 diabetes.
 

Indiana to file lawsuits challenging federal vaccine mandates​

November 4, 2021 | Emily Ketterer
KEYWORDS CORONAVIRUS OUTBREAK / GOVERNMENT / HEALTH CARE / LAWSUITS / PUBLIC HEALTH


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Indiana will file three lawsuits to challenge federal COVID-19 vaccine mandates for large private employers, certain health care workers and federal contractors, Indiana’s Republican Attorney General Todd Rokita announced Thursday.
Gov. Eric Holcomb, also Republican, expressed his support for the legal challenge, saying he had directed the Indiana Department of Labor to work with the attorney general to oppose the mandates.
The Republican pushback came just hours after the Democratic administration of President Joe Biden finalized rules for federal vaccine mandates that are set to be enforced starting Jan. 4.
One set of rules sets up vaccination-or-test requirements for businesses with more than 100 workers, regulated through the Occupational Safety and Health Administration.

Another implements a vaccine mandate for health care workers at facilities participating in Medicare and Medicaid. Biden also issued an executive order requiring federal contractors to ensure their employees are vaccinated, and details on that were released Monday.
Rokita said the three separate lawsuits will address each component of the Biden administration’s rules. The suits will be filed starting this afternoon and over the coming days his office reviews the rules.
Indiana will likely be joined by Mississippi and Louisiana on the contractor lawsuit, Rokita said.
Rokita said the primary legal argument against the OSHA mandate for businesses is that it is government overreach and a misuse of the OSHA law.
“It’s again egregious and insidious that you’d use something, a law that was meant to protect workers at the workplace from dangerous toxicities from other directly unsafe situations, to use it in this fashion,” Rokita said. “And that’s how we’re going to win the case, by the way.”
He also noted that the federal mandate would nullify a law passed by the Indiana Legislature this session preventing state or local government agencies from requiring anyone, including employees, to show proof of vaccination.
That’s because state and local governments in Indiana and other states that operate their own occupational safety and health regulatory programs must adopt rules at least as stringent as as federal OSHA requirements.
Holcomb also called the vaccine mandates an “overreach.”
“While I agree that the vaccine is the tool that will best protect against COVID-19, this federal government approach is unprecedented and will bring about harmful, unintended consequences in the supply chain and the workforce,” Holcomb said in a statement.
Indiana Republicans are also challenging the federal vaccine mandates at the congressional level.
U.S. Sen. Mike Braun is leading 40 other Senate Republicans in efforts to disapprove and nullify Biden’s vaccine mandate under the Congressional Review Act. Sen. Todd Young, also representing Indiana, has joined the effort.
“Since the announcement of President Biden’s vaccine and testing mandate in September, I have led the charge to strike down this vast overstep of authority by the federal government,” Braun said in a statement on Wednesday.
“Today, we are one step closer to protecting the liberties of millions of Americans in the private sector workforce under the Congressional Review Act. I urge my Senate colleagues to vote in favor of this disapproval resolution in the coming weeks.”
 
Here is what blows my mind. It shouldn’t matter if was intentional or accidental, it came from China. Period. No repercussions for the globe that has suffered substantially. Nothing not even talked about.

And nothing for the **** doc who lied to congress time and time again about fusing this ****.
How heavily is it going to be investigated if the road to the creation of this thing leads back to the US?
 
What difference would it make if they did? The vaccinated are still 12X less likely to die after contracting Covid.

Let me explain slowly, once again.

If vaccinated get Covid and die from Covid, they are considered Covid deaths.

If vaccinated and you die but not with the Covid, not considered a Covid death but also NOT considered a vaccine death.

However, if vaccine deaths are treated the same as Covid death counts - i.e., have the vaccine + die = vaccine death - then the number of vaccine deaths will surpass the number of Covid deaths.

Get it?
 
Let me explain slowly, once again.

If vaccinated get Covid and die from Covid, they are considered Covid deaths.

If vaccinated and you die but not with the Covid, not considered a Covid death but also NOT considered a vaccine death.

However, if vaccine deaths are treated the same as Covid death counts - i.e., have the vaccine + die = vaccine death - then the number of vaccine deaths will surpass the number of Covid deaths.

Get it?
 
Let me explain slowly, once again.

If vaccinated get Covid and die from Covid, they are considered Covid deaths.

If vaccinated and you die but not with the Covid, not considered a Covid death but also NOT considered a vaccine death.

However, if vaccine deaths are treated the same as Covid death counts - i.e., have the vaccine + die = vaccine death - then the number of vaccine deaths will surpass the number of Covid deaths.

Get it?

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For anyone who cares, i am being released from the hospital … I am not allowed to get the vax for one month, not that I plan on it…. I still want novavax… its completely insane that they won’t count natural immunity as well.. it’s literally how many of the nurses and doctors are functioning here…
 
For anyone who cares, i am being released from the hospital … I am not allowed to get the vax for one month, not that I plan on it…. I still want novavax… its completely insane that they won’t count natural immunity as well.. it’s literally how many of the nurses and doctors are functioning here…
Glad you're outta there! Knock on wood I've only been in the hospital for 2 days in my life and it felt like being released from jail. Not that I've been there, but you know what I mean.
 
For anyone who cares, i am being released from the hospital … I am not allowed to get the vax for one month, not that I plan on it…. I still want novavax… its completely insane that they won’t count natural immunity as well.. it’s literally how many of the nurses and doctors are functioning here…
Hey, we all care, well most of us at least! Glad you're goin' home.
 
It’s going to go to the supreme court no matter what.. so the question is do you trust that rattrap to be constitutional
Not after the Kelo v. New London decision, hell no.
 

GREAT find. Published by the uber-Liberal LA Times.

@Troglodyte ain't gonna like this one bit. Liberals now disagree with his ideological position, as well as the journal Science.

Summary:

Preventing Infections:
  • Moderna: 89% effective in March, fell to 58% effective by October 1
  • Pfizer: Fell 85% to 45%
  • J&J: Fell dramatically from 86% to 13% in 6 months
Preventing Death:
  • Moderna: By July, the vaxed were only 76% less likely to die of Covid than unvaxed
  • Pfizer: By July, the vaxed were only 70% less likely to die than the unvaxed
  • J&J: By July, the vaxed were 52% less likely to die than the unvaxed
So Moderna is now 58% effective against infections, 76% effective against death.
Pfizer is 45% effective against infections, 70% effective against death.
J&J is 13% effective against infections, 52% effective against death.

Just remember this the next time the CDC, your local media, or any other talking head says "The vaccines are 95% effective in preventing serious illness and death." Or the next time someone tries to justify the increases in infections, illness and death among the vaxed by saying "It's Math!" LOL.

Listen to the real science.
 
I keep trying to type my story up… its just not believable though.. too many coincidences and completely weird things..

Literally I thought for a moment the doctors were ******* with me… they just kept me in the dark about most of it because I don’t think they wanted me to panic

Let me summarize… i got an upper respiratory infection that wasn’t covid related more work and allergies..

I picked up a job in ohio to cover for a guy whose grampa died and while I was there must have caught the virus due to my comprised lungs

I lost my taste and smell and had a fever
Went to the hospital and got positive results…. They sent me home
I got worse so I went back
They admitted me with double pneumonia and started treatment

Due to a series of coincidences i got injured mid treatment and nobody noticed for a couple days…

They had me in full covid procedures including blood thinners and didn’t realize i had internal bleeding

A doctor randomly helping with them closing my ward and moving to a different floor caught it.

It gets more dramatic… i just really can’t get through it… doctors and nurses explained they all figured i was dead.. blood thinner plus internal bleeding plus covid low o2 with low blood pressure doesn’t equal great things…

Ultimately they moved me to the icu and gave me some really horrible potential options, but then decided to wait until the last possible time to do any of them, and just hope the bleeding stopped in time

It did.. on its own… completely Unpredictably from what I am told.. right before i reached my limits of needing a risky transfusion or death ventilator…

at this point I’m extremely blessed to be alive but the whole story absolutely feels too made up… i mean my damn dad simultaneously took a turn forcthe worse as this all happened and died while i was in here and like three things that I can’t even talk about yet are going on

I had to FaceTime his funeral wearing a cpap machine… I didn’t realize everyone was crying harder because they lnew what I didn’t about my chances

Hell i technically beat covid by this Sunday… I don’t have it anymore

But thanks to staff shortages and no beds i am still locked in a isolation chamber cause they have no where to move me to … I can’t get visitors… I still have not hugged my mom or seen her outside a video chat

I was so far gone that when I rapidly recovered they didn’t have a rehab plan in place so they kept just giving me the discharge test that i cant pass cause i lost like 25% of my blood and deconditioned.. lol then they panicked about my heart rate… but its healthy …

Like I said im just not sure how something this convoluted happens

I know this vaccine wise.. many of the people that saved my life aren’t… but they had it and the natural protection works for them many are and they advocate it

Im hella-immune now.. ill still take novavax when it comes out

Im a christian… I know that isn’t popular these days.. I feel like this was miraculous but hey im the one who just got spared…

There are tons of cases not like mine.. a 36 year old died here recently.. if you get compromised health wise covid exploits it, vaccines or not..
Sorry for your loss and glad you made it through. I lost a lot of blood once (long story) and it took weeks to recover. Fatigue like I can’t even describe. Hope you’re feeling better soon.
 
Sorry for your loss and glad you made it through. I lost a lot of blood once (long story) and it took weeks to recover. Fatigue like I can’t even describe. Hope you’re feeling better soon.
Yeah I really didn’t realize how long it takes to actually replace blood stockpiles… weeks per pint.. I feel drained every time I move
 
I keep trying to type my story up… its just not believable though.. too many coincidences and completely weird things..

Literally I thought for a moment the doctors were ******* with me… they just kept me in the dark about most of it because I don’t think they wanted me to panic

Let me summarize… i got an upper respiratory infection that wasn’t covid related more work and allergies..

I picked up a job in ohio to cover for a guy whose grampa died and while I was there must have caught the virus due to my comprised lungs

I lost my taste and smell and had a fever
Went to the hospital and got positive results…. They sent me home
I got worse so I went back
They admitted me with double pneumonia and started treatment

Due to a series of coincidences i got injured mid treatment and nobody noticed for a couple days…

They had me in full covid procedures including blood thinners and didn’t realize i had internal bleeding

A doctor randomly helping with them closing my ward and moving to a different floor caught it.

It gets more dramatic… i just really can’t get through it… doctors and nurses explained they all figured i was dead.. blood thinner plus internal bleeding plus covid low o2 with low blood pressure doesn’t equal great things…

Ultimately they moved me to the icu and gave me some really horrible potential options, but then decided to wait until the last possible time to do any of them, and just hope the bleeding stopped in time

It did.. on its own… completely Unpredictably from what I am told.. right before i reached my limits of needing a risky transfusion or death ventilator…

at this point I’m extremely blessed to be alive but the whole story absolutely feels too made up… i mean my damn dad simultaneously took a turn forcthe worse as this all happened and died while i was in here and like three things that I can’t even talk about yet are going on

I had to FaceTime his funeral wearing a cpap machine… I didn’t realize everyone was crying harder because they lnew what I didn’t about my chances

Hell i technically beat covid by this Sunday… I don’t have it anymore

But thanks to staff shortages and no beds i am still locked in a isolation chamber cause they have no where to move me to … I can’t get visitors… I still have not hugged my mom or seen her outside a video chat

I was so far gone that when I rapidly recovered they didn’t have a rehab plan in place so they kept just giving me the discharge test that i cant pass cause i lost like 25% of my blood and deconditioned.. lol then they panicked about my heart rate… but its healthy …

Like I said im just not sure how something this convoluted happens

I know this vaccine wise.. many of the people that saved my life aren’t… but they had it and the natural protection works for them many are and they advocate it

Im hella-immune now.. ill still take novavax when it comes out

Im a christian… I know that isn’t popular these days.. I feel like this was miraculous but hey im the one who just got spared…

There are tons of cases not like mine.. a 36 year old died here recently.. if you get compromised health wise covid exploits it, vaccines or not..

So happy to hear you are pulling through, sounds like a hell of an ordeal. And so very sorry you lost your father during a time like this. I simply can't imagine. My thoughts and prayers to you during this time man.
 
And here it is. As predicted. The slippery slope we warned about. As we the rational predicted. Now the vaccinated are not "vaccinated" unless they are current with boosters.

A lifetime of shots to follow.

NBA Declares… The Vaccinated are now the Unvaccinated​



The NBA is recommending all players, coaches, and refs get the CCP Booster shot by Dec. 1.

The league recommendations, which were obtained by The Associated Press, called for those who got the Johnson & Johnson vaccine originally to seek a Pfizer or Moderna booster. Those who got Pfizer or Moderna may get whatever booster is available, the league said.

 
Hmmm...something to see here?


Gov. Gavin Newsom's last public appearance was Oct. 27, when he received a coronavirus booster shot.



California Gavin Newsom canceled his plans to attend the Glasgow, Scotland climate summit and has been out of sight since October 27. ABC Los Angeles reports the governor is dealing with ‘family obligations.’

The governor’s booster was a mix-and-match with the original, which was a Johnson & Johnson shot. “I am choosing not to do J&J today not because I had any problems with J&J, in fact it went beautifully, but to make the point about the opportunity to mix and match,” Newsom said at the time.

Family obligations. Hmmm. Of course. Just cancelled everything, including an overseas trip.

 
Family obligations instead of attending a climate summit so near & dear to his twisted, poisonous little heart? Climate change, which he's dedicated billions of dollars to and drained the taxpayer of - because of 'family obligations'? If there was actually a serious issue with a family member that kept him completely out of sight for nearly two weeks, you damn sure better believe we'd all hear more about the insurmountable calamity he's dealing with.

If there is a serious family issue, my condolences and my apologies for not buying it - but we're also talking about Gavin Gruesome. This should be interesting.
 
GREAT find. Published by the uber-Liberal LA Times.

@Troglodyte ain't gonna like this one bit. Liberals now disagree with his ideological position, as well as the journal Science.

Summary:

Preventing Infections:
  • Moderna: 89% effective in March, fell to 58% effective by October 1
  • Pfizer: Fell 85% to 45%
  • J&J: Fell dramatically from 86% to 13% in 6 months
Preventing Death:
  • Moderna: By July, the vaxed were only 76% less likely to die of Covid than unvaxed
  • Pfizer: By July, the vaxed were only 70% less likely to die than the unvaxed
  • J&J: By July, the vaxed were 52% less likely to die than the unvaxed
So Moderna is now 58% effective against infections, 76% effective against death.
Pfizer is 45% effective against infections, 70% effective against death.
J&J is 13% effective against infections, 52% effective against death.

Just remember this the next time the CDC, your local media, or any other talking head says "The vaccines are 95% effective in preventing serious illness and death." Or the next time someone tries to justify the increases in infections, illness and death among the vaxed by saying "It's Math!" LOL.

Listen to the real science.
Numbers are not surprising, but the study skewed toward older people. 77% were older than 50 and 48% older than 65. I know it said the effectiveness waned in both older and younger was it at the same %? I would also like to see numbers in comparison to unvaxed people. Bottom line is the study shows this shot is not a "vaccine" and going to be fights over vaccination status if you dont get shot every few months.
 
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