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Covid Vaccine

Troglodyte said:
Idiot. Work, travel and leisure have all returned thanks to… THE VACCINES. You’re welcome.

So you consider working class people as being rednecks? How elitist of you!
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No, I consider you a fat, worthless pile of worm-infested dog excrement.

Also, you ******* imbecile, all dogs are mammals, not all mammals are dogs. So rednecks are working class people, but not all working class people are rednecks.

Idiot. You are approaching elftard/Tibilo level of stupidity.
 
Steeltime said:
No, I consider you a fat, worthless pile of worm-infested dog excrement.

Also, you ******* imbecile, all dogs are mammals, not all mammals are dogs. So rednecks are working class people, but not all working class people are rednecks.

Idiot. You are approaching elftard/Tibilo level of stupidity.
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NO!

 
The tiny territory of Gibraltar has announced a raft of new health updates following a “drastic rise” in Covid-19 cases.
The British-owned peninsula, often referred to as “the most vaccinated place on Earth” for having inoculated the entirety of its adult population, has seen case numbers steadily rise throughout the months of October and November.

Health officials governing the 34,000-strong population believe the sudden re-emergence of the virus to be cause for concern after 124 new cases appeared over the weekend. Gibraltar has seen an average of 56 cases per day over the last seven days, compared to under 10 per day in September.

The number of active cases sits at 474 - roughly 1.3 per cent of the population - as of November 17th. The recent spike is the biggest surge the tiny populous has seen since January 2021.

Gibraltar’s vaccination rate is currently at a peculiar 118 per cent, taking into account the fully vaccinated Spaniards who travel across its border each day for work.
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www.news.com.au

World’s ‘most vaxxed place’ cracks down

The tiny territory of Gibraltar has announced a raft of new health updates following a “drastic rise” in Covid-19 cases.
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Troglodyte said:
Right, just as a bad cold, flu or a broken hip could kill them. The vaccine offers protection against Covid, it doesn’t grant immortality to the frail and elderly.
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The two studies from germany and the uk showed a greater likelihood of death under tge age of 60 from the vaccinated than the unvaccinated

So over 60 the unvaccinated are dying a lot…. Under sixty the vaccinated are more susceptible…. Its almost as if the younger you are the less likely you are to die from it

And the vaccines really are ******* with natural immunity
 
madinsomniac said:
The two studies from germany and the uk showed a greater likelihood of death under tge age of 60 from the vaccinated than the unvaccinated

So over 60 the unvaccinated are dying a lot…. Under sixty the vaccinated are more susceptible…. Its almost as if the younger you are the less likely you are to die from it

And the vaccines really are ******* with natural immunity
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Better read the fine print on that Aex Berenson garbage.

www.haaretz.com

Alex Berenson, who spread false info on Israeli vaccines, banned from Twitter

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www.haaretz.com www.haaretz.com
 
I don’t think most people debating this understand scientific methods, studies or theories

There is an excellent article floating about about dr hill, the guy who developed the asterazaneca vaccine … the dude never once in his long career was able to produce a viable vaccine… he rushes this one out and the cocky balls this guy has was utterly belligerent in the face of massive criticism of his methodology and results was astounding

They “knew” the right amounts to use because basically they just did.. tgere were no chances of long term effects because he said so… he made a career of failure and being incorrect, but here he just magically hit a home run…


Science is always something that starts out with hunches and theories , sometimes competing adversarial ones that are sorted out over time as repeatable facts show the correct path… scientists don’t get to simply declare they are right without factual data to back it up

You don’t dismiss concerns cause tgey are not cohesive with your agenda

There are something like 15000 science and medical journals out there, when they publish something, that doesn’t mean it’s absolutely fact, but it should be researched further…..here we gave two studies that concluded the same thing.. its not something to be dismissed out of hand because a guy you don’t like tweeted about them
 
madinsomniac said:
The two studies from germany and the uk showed a greater likelihood of death under tge age of 60 from the vaccinated than the unvaccinated

So over 60 the unvaccinated are dying a lot…. Under sixty the vaccinated are more susceptible…. Its almost as if the younger you are the less likely you are to die from it

And the vaccines really are ******* with natural immunity
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I got my Moderna shots this last August. I'm not taking a booster - screw that. Isn't a true vaccine supposed to work like the ones we got around 1st grade or something? I'm 99% sure I had Covid in late January 2020. And 80% sure I had it last week. I didn't get tested last week but stayed home and away from people just in case.

P.S. - I felt worse the second time and I rarely get sick with anything.
 
Badcat said:
Just got great news today, I was able to secure a religious exemption from my employer. Hopefully Novavax comes through this year or the President's un-Constitutional vaccine mandate is thrown out.
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Mine was also approved today. We just found out this past Thursday that we are all required due to my Health System being a CMS provider that accepts federal funding. This is a separate mandate from OSHA. While I filled out a separate form, I attached the same typed up explanation I used for the flu shot and it was also approved for religious exemption. I actually was lining up other jobs for the last 2 months when my company first gave us notice of, “nothing yet, but a final decision soon”. If anyone needs help, advice, whatever, feel free to PM me. I am an ordained minister.
 
Troglodyte said:
So what’s going on with Covid in Israel? Tim shut the **** up about Israel a long time ago. Have the vaccines failed them?
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The guy from Germany had it right.. by the end everyone will either have had it, gotten some vaccine, or be dead… not much different than the herd immunity plan except that the current vaccine wears off… their answer is more shots of it…though each subsequent shot brings culminating chances of adverse reactions … the booster absolutely activates b cell antibodies in the person for several months, but afterwards the slow response from the immune system allows infections and eventually the response weakens further over time, allowing hospitalization and eventually death… thats what the data says. Tge only real question is reinfection

As of now it’s excessively rare for someone without an immunity issue to get reinfected

The question now becomes does the vaccine blunt natural immunity t cell response enough to allow reinfection once the vaccine wanes

For tge record the official stance is that they are hoping tge third booster lasts 8 to 9 months… this isnt based on a 8-9 month trial, just hypothetical guesswork…

Yes israel did third boosters… that doesn’t fix tge waning issue, nor does it answer the long term issue and the heart and organ issue is complicated by multiple shots… and the dna regeneration issue from covid is carried over inthe tge mrna vaxes…

Its time to call the mrna what it is… a failed experiment and move on to traditional vaccines
 
madinsomniac said:
Its time to call the mrna what it is… a failed experiment and move on to traditional vaccines
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Troglodyte said:
Better read the fine print on that Aex Berenson garbage.

www.haaretz.com

Alex Berenson, who spread false info on Israeli vaccines, banned from Twitter

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www.haaretz.com www.haaretz.com
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You truly are a MSM appendage.
A reporter is garbage when they go against your narrative, but amazing when they write in support of your cause.
With you, it’s ALWAYS the source while disregarding the information/facts/data they present.
Should we disregard MLKs profound and at the time courageous words about humanity because he was an adulterer?
Or founding father George Washington’s words about government because he was a slave owner in the 1700s?
Try thinking for yourself for once in you’re life rather than having someone tell you how you feel about a subject.
 
This video was made in September 2019 apparently. Thought it was interesting enough to post. And I didn't know Trump signed an EO assigning a special 'vaccine' task force at that time. This lady either got extremely lucky predicting what was to come (or she was just really paying attention), or she's the Oracle:

 
I want to point out that the VAST majority of vaccine hesitant people are still very interested in a vaccine that simply isn’t utilizing the partial protien spike methods…

And that there are several traditional dead virus or inactive virus vaccines already being used in various parts of the world …

Approve one or two of ours and move on… **** pfizer and its money grab
 
Anybody think China is using mRNA?
 
madinsomniac said:
The guy from Germany had it right.. by the end everyone will either have had it, gotten some vaccine, or be dead… not much different than the herd immunity plan except that the current vaccine wears off… their answer is more shots of it…though each subsequent shot brings culminating chances of adverse reactions … the booster absolutely activates b cell antibodies in the person for several months, but afterwards the slow response from the immune system allows infections and eventually the response weakens further over time, allowing hospitalization and eventually death… thats what the data says. Tge only real question is reinfection

As of now it’s excessively rare for someone without an immunity issue to get reinfected

The question now becomes does the vaccine blunt natural immunity t cell response enough to allow reinfection once the vaccine wanes

For tge record the official stance is that they are hoping tge third booster lasts 8 to 9 months… this isnt based on a 8-9 month trial, just hypothetical guesswork…

Yes israel did third boosters… that doesn’t fix tge waning issue, nor does it answer the long term issue and the heart and organ issue is complicated by multiple shots… and the dna regeneration issue from covid is carried over inthe tge mrna vaxes…

Its time to call the mrna what it is… a failed experiment and move on to traditional vaccines
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The boosters absolutely fix the waning issue, that’s their sole purpose. Whether they do anything beyond preventing mild to moderate illness is debatable at best.

What long term issues and heart and organ issues complicated by multiple shots? Specifically, what issues that aren’t much more likely with Covid?

The mRNA vaccines reduce the death rate 13X. How do you define that as a failed experiment? It sure as hell beats the alternative.
 
fedderone said:
You truly are a MSM appendage.
A reporter is garbage when they go against your narrative, but amazing when they write in support of your cause.
With you, it’s ALWAYS the source while disregarding the information/facts/data they present.
Should we disregard MLKs profound and at the time courageous words about humanity because he was an adulterer?
Or founding father George Washington’s words about government because he was a slave owner in the 1700s?
Try thinking for yourself for once in you’re life rather than having someone tell you how you feel about a subject.
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When one person is reporting something, it’s not news. I consider Bersenson garbage because he’s been exposed multiple times for misrepresenting the findings of studies.

fullfact.org

The Joe Rogan podcast misused English Covid-19 data - Full Fact

A guest misused a PHE report, which does not show that vaccinated people are more likely to catch the disease
fullfact.org fullfact.org

www.politifact.com

PolitiFact - COVID-19 death rate in England much higher among unvaccinated than vaccinated

A dramatic claim about the pandemic in the United Kingdom was made by Alex Berenson, a former New York Times reporter wh/> <meta name=
www.politifact.com www.politifact.com
 
Troglodyte said:
The boosters absolutely fix the waning issue, that’s their sole purpose. Whether they do anything beyond preventing mild to moderate illness is debatable at best.

What long term issues and heart and organ issues complicated by multiple shots? Specifically, what issues that aren’t much more likely with Covid?

The mRNA vaccines reduce the death rate 13X. How do you define that as a failed experiment? It sure as hell beats the alternative.
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wait. hol'up a second - you said just a couple pages back that there was no "waning issue". To advise you, before you make another feeble attempt to be smart, a "waning issue" is efficacy. So now, on page 315, you're admitting that the vaccine shot has an efficacy issue. And, in the same sentence, you say that boosters (plural) addresses and "fix" the issue. Yet if it needed to be "fixed" it wouldnt be a true vaccine. If it worked, as it was hailed to by the dementia patient you voted for, a booster wouldn't be needed. Let alone boosters. We're on the third booster now... and many of us can see that there are more coming over the horizon. This vaccine shot is exactly what Berenson said, and you've admitted as much without even realizing it. Congratulations, champ. You played yourself.

 
Troglodyte said:
The boosters absolutely fix the waning issue, that’s their sole purpose. Whether they do anything beyond preventing mild to moderate illness is debatable at best.

What long term issues and heart and organ issues complicated by multiple shots? Specifically, what issues that aren’t much more likely with Covid?

The mRNA vaccines reduce the death rate 13X. How do you define that as a failed experiment? It sure as hell beats the alternative.
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And still you ignore that in past MRNA vaccine attempts that failed miserably in or before phase 3 clinical testing such as pancreatic cancer and HIV, there were several excessively dangerous long term effects that were present… not one of which has been disproven and in fact some have serious red flags

We know that the spike protein affects the heart cells… aand while some unlucky few see immediate heart swelling, it’s affecting everyone and nobody knows whT that means ten years down the road


We know the non clinical, observational study that they used to ok pregnant people getting the vaccine was utterly discredited because of faulty math and logic… it was biased from the get go.. thats huge because two of the potential side effects had to do with miscarriages and offspring being immune deficient against tge covid virus… both of which were seen in rat tests in earlier mrna studies…

That doesn’t mean that this will happen here, but they should have damn well tested it better before shoveling down the breeding population

We also know before the vaccine was shown to wane Fauci himself warned about leaky vaccines leading to massive problems before changing his tune once breakthroughs became common

We also know that both covid and the vaccines both cause damage to the process the body uses to repair dna, but this is thought to be temporary… but if boosters are needed perpetually it will lead to one of a dozen horrible things down the road


Why can’t you just admit that this was a gamble that wasn’t worth it, especially since they could have sent an extra billion to any of the standard vaccine labs and had a standard vaccine out by late spring or early summer at the worse…
 
Troglodyte said:
When one person is reporting something, it’s not news. I consider Bersenson garbage because he’s been exposed multiple times for misrepresenting the findings of studies.

fullfact.org

The Joe Rogan podcast misused English Covid-19 data - Full Fact

A guest misused a PHE report, which does not show that vaccinated people are more likely to catch the disease
fullfact.org fullfact.org

www.politifact.com

PolitiFact - COVID-19 death rate in England much higher among unvaccinated than vaccinated

A dramatic claim about the pandemic in the United Kingdom was made by Alex Berenson, a former New York Times reporter wh/> <meta name=
www.politifact.com www.politifact.com
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Where are the politifact corrections on the Kyle Rittenhouse lies from the left… or the now disproven steel dossier? Isn’t it weird that they all lean left on every hot button issue and only factcheck to the rights on utterly neutral issues to appear unbiased. I mean the mental gymnastics they do to prove or disprove something are disingenuous at the best… its bullshit that few moderates believe anymore…

As a hater of both parties they both are wrong more often than right… when ypu have a source perpetually siding with one side, especially as agendas flip flop from left to right, its biased and worthless…



Also there were two studies… the german one had among the conclusions that the vaccine was causing a lower immunity

Read your own factcheck on the english one… they are dismissing it because it was only England not the whole uk…, which doesn’t change tge results

Also they ignore that tge study was people under 60 when they try to make the claim that more older people are vaccinated so thats why its so high…

The numbers for both studies were 30ish percent higher in under 60 deaths for the vaccinated than the unvaccinated…

Politifail is a liberal spin factory… thats what the facts say
 
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