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Covid Vaccine

You have to feel sick for what hypochondriacs are going through these days. It's ridiculous.

Didn't even think about the toll it's taken on them. Holy ****, can you imagine?

Umbrella: ANY Covid news

Goats: EVERY hypochondriac out there

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so you're suggesting that anyone who has been vaxxed shot has not died?

so you're stating that the vaccine shot is a miracle ... is the miracle that Biden said it was, even though the manufacturers who produce it, the scientists who coded and study it, the doctors who see patients with and without the shot, the nurses who encounter those in hospitals with and without, all say the vaccine shot wanes and provides immunity forever and that there is absolutely zero "breatkthrough cases" and the term "breakthrough case" has never been mentioned until post 8,101 on page 325 of this very thread?
 
No, obesity explains the difference in deaths between the obese and the non-obese

You were once again attempting, as you have 4,327 other times, to dispel the notion that there is a link between high death rates and obesity. Every time it has been brought up for nearly 2 years, you have worked harder than a gerbil in a gay man's anus to deny that Covid strikes the obese much harder. Once again, you tried to negate the proven link between obesity and Covid deaths, which in fact does exist. A wholly separate discussion than vaccination.

it doesn’t explain the difference in deaths between the vaccinated and the unvaccinated

You continue to believe the delta between the vaxed and unvaxxed is binary. You assume if people are vaxed, they don't be die. You overlook data such as this, from the Gov of WV just back in August:

“Also, over the last eight weeks, health officials have seen a 26% increase in cases among fully vaccinated residents, a 21% increase, among the vaccinated, in cases requiring hospitalizations and a 25% increase in deaths among those who have gotten their shots.”

WV has seen a steady rise in breakthrough cases and deaths over the past 3 months. Why that do be if the vaccines are miracle shots Flog? The % of those contracting and dying from Covid that are vaccinated has been increasing (like errywhere else it be). Vaccines wane. Even WV proves it to be so.

Misinformation is pointng to New York and New Jersey when the vast majority of their deaths were at the onset of the pandemic. They never came anywhere close to having the deaths in subsequent surges that they had in the initial surge, the same cannot be said for Florida, SD and ND.

None of that means jack. You assume Covid hit every state in the same way at the same time. NY and NJ got hit early in March 2020. SD and ND didn't have wave one until the fall of 2020. FL's first wave didn't hit till summer of 2020.

ND and SD have only had 2 waves. NY, NJ, FL have had 3.

Yet NY and NJ still lead the pack in deaths per million nearly 2 years later. Viva la vaccines!
 
Read the article, Tim.

In your infinite moronic style, you once again posted an article behind a paywall.

The headline is enough. The Compost saying "we don't need universal boosters, we need to reach the unvaccinated."

Israel, Gibraltar, Ireland, England say - hold my beer.

This is not a pandemic of the unvaccinated Floggy. I know your religion has told you it is. Some people pass and handle snakes too in the name of faith.
 
So your point isn’t for people to get infected to acquire natural immunity? Then what is it? What’s the viable alternative? Getting vaccinated, maybe?

Natural immunity will eventually win the day. Saying that does not equal the same person saying everyone needs to go out and "catch" Covid.

It's a true assessment of the situation. Throughout history, mankind has beaten viruses primarily through natural immunity. It's the way the world has turned. Vaccines are fairly new developments. Vaccines will help. But given these vaccines suck, it's becoming more apparent that it will take a ton of natural immunity to get us over the hump.

As the good epidemiologists have said, everyone is gonna get Covid.

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Pssst. Sit down. Brace yourself. Sooner or later, we’re all going to get COVID-19, many experts say.

Even if we’re fully vaccinated.

“The idea that we’re going to live our lives without ever getting it is a fantasy — and a dangerous one,” said Andrew Noymer, an epidemiologist and demographer at UC Irvine. “A lot of people just don’t understand that. We’re all going to get it.”

Dr. Monica Gandhi, an infectious diseases expert and professor of medicine at UCSF, agrees. “Delta is a very transmissible variant of COVID-19, so spreads readily and is hard to contain,” she said. “I think we will all be exposed to delta at one point or the other.”
 
Sheer coincidence. Literally, just coincidence.

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Natural immunity will eventually win the day. Saying that does not equal the same person saying everyone needs to go out and "catch" Covid.

It's a true assessment of the situation. Throughout history, mankind has beaten viruses primarily through natural immunity. It's the way the world has turned. Vaccines are fairly new developments. Vaccines will help. But given these vaccines suck, it's becoming more apparent that it will take a ton of natural immunity to get us over the hump.

As the good epidemiologists have said, everyone is gonna get Covid.

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Pssst. Sit down. Brace yourself. Sooner or later, we’re all going to get COVID-19, many experts say.

Even if we’re fully vaccinated.

“The idea that we’re going to live our lives without ever getting it is a fantasy — and a dangerous one,” said Andrew Noymer, an epidemiologist and demographer at UC Irvine. “A lot of people just don’t understand that. We’re all going to get it.”

Dr. Monica Gandhi, an infectious diseases expert and professor of medicine at UCSF, agrees. “Delta is a very transmissible variant of COVID-19, so spreads readily and is hard to contain,” she said. “I think we will all be exposed to delta at one point or the other.”
THIS!
COVID19 is now the flu.
It will be around for the rest of our lives.
It should be treated just like the flu.
It'll be a fall/winter shot just like the flu shot.
It'll have innumerable variations and be about/less deadly than the flu.

NOW CAN WE PLEASE GET BACK TO OUR REGULARLY SCHEDULED PROGRAMMING?!?!?!??!?!?!?!??!?

COVID is NOT the global killer everyone thought.
It's very contagious, but not really that deadly.
It's just another thing out there that can make you sick/kill you. Like water in Flint, MI. Or high levels of mercury in fish. Or Alga Bloom in Lake Erie. Or too much refined sugar/fried/processed foods. Etc.
It's not Ebola. It's not AIDS. It's not Cancer. It's not car accidents. It's not homicides. It's not slavery, sex trafficking, or child porn.
I know the media wants to make it so everyone fears it, so they can keep getting sponsors to pay because everyone tunes in to hear about the doom and gloom.
Can we just use some common sense now?! We're two years in. We know all we're going to know..........except the long term effects of both the disease and vaccines.
 
In your infinite moronic style, you once again posted an article behind a paywall.

The headline is enough. The Compost saying "we don't need universal boosters, we need to reach the unvaccinated."

Israel, Gibraltar, Ireland, England say - hold my beer.

This is not a pandemic of the unvaccinated Floggy. I know your religion has told you it is. Some people pass and handle snakes too in the name of faith.
I don’t get these paywalls, you must spend too much time on the internet and have maxed out your limit of free articles on multiple sites.

It’s a perspective piece and an article that that was published in The Lancet by MEDICAL DOCTORS discussing SCIENCE, not a Washington Post article per se.
 
Winning.

Federal Judge strikes down Biden Vaccine Mandate for healthcare workers​


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A judge halted President Joe Biden’s federal vaccine mandate for healthcare workers in ten states on Monday, court documents show.

Missouri-based U.S. District Judge Matthew Schelp, who was appointed by former President Donald Trump, issued the preliminary injunction for employees at Medicare and Medicare-certified medical facilities in North and South Dakota, Nebraska, Wyoming, New Hampshire, Missouri, Kansas, Iowa, Alaska, and Arkansas. Under the Biden administration’s mandate, healthcare workers who work at hospitals, nursing homes, and other healthcare facilities that receive federal funding have been ordered to get vaccinated against COVID-19 by January 4, receive a medical or religious exemption, or face firing.

Schelp in his 32-page opinion decided that the detrimental impact of losing qualified healthcare workers outweighs the need for employees to be vaccinated and said the mandate imposes a burden “on the ability of healthcare facilities to provide proper care, and thus, save lives.”

“The scale falls clearly in favor of healthcare facilities operating with some unvaccinated employees, staff, trainees, students, volunteers, and contractors, rather than the swift, irremediable impact of requiring healthcare facilities to choose between two undesirable choices — providing substandard care or providing no healthcare at all,” he wrote.

In his opinion, Schelp clearly laid out three ways in which Biden’s vaccine mandate is unlawful, leaving little doubt as to what his final ruling would be. Firstly, he argued that the Biden administration did not follow Supreme Court precedent in issuing the mandate because it did not first seek the approval of Congress to enact such a wide-reaching rule.
 
We've lost another upstanding citizen from the anti-vaxx movement. Maybe doing his *own research* wasn't such a great idea. May the Lord have mercy on his soul. 🙏


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14 times more likely to die is that the same as "will die" or that vaxxed shot will not die?

asking for a certain segment of the population who historically do not trust the goobermint.
 
Natural immunity will eventually win the day. Saying that does not equal the same person saying everyone needs to go out and "catch" Covid.

It's a true assessment of the situation. Throughout history, mankind has beaten viruses primarily through natural immunity. It's the way the world has turned. Vaccines are fairly new developments. Vaccines will help. But given these vaccines suck, it's becoming more apparent that it will take a ton of natural immunity to get us over the hump.

As the good epidemiologists have said, everyone is gonna get Covid.

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Pssst. Sit down. Brace yourself. Sooner or later, we’re all going to get COVID-19, many experts say.

Even if we’re fully vaccinated.

“The idea that we’re going to live our lives without ever getting it is a fantasy — and a dangerous one,” said Andrew Noymer, an epidemiologist and demographer at UC Irvine. “A lot of people just don’t understand that. We’re all going to get it.”

Dr. Monica Gandhi, an infectious diseases expert and professor of medicine at UCSF, agrees. “Delta is a very transmissible variant of COVID-19, so spreads readily and is hard to contain,” she said. “I think we will all be exposed to delta at one point or the other.”
Yes, everyone will eventually be exposed to Covid, better to be vaccinated when they are exposed. 14X better. Many people will learn their life’s final lesson the hard way.
 


CLUSTERFUCK NATION – BLOGNovember 29, 2021

The Narratives Fail


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Inevitably, it will be here. The question is will we be prepared for it?”
— Dr. Fauci on Omicron
Does it finally look like Dr. Anthony Fauci is trying to carry out an assisted suicide of the United States? On the Sunday Morning TV chat circuit, the White House Covid-19 czar (a.k.a. The Science) declared that the new Omicron variant is “a clarion call” to get people vaccinated. Is that so, Dr. Fauci? Considering how well your “vaccines” work? And how many people have been maimed and killed by their side-effects? (More than all other vaccines combined over the past thirty years.) And how you knavishly outlawed effective and cheap early treatment protocols that would have put Covid-19 down by June of 2020 (and saved half-a-million lives). The Science also called on Sunday for the general re-masking of the public and averred to the possibility of more lockdowns ahead. And just at Christmas-time, you understand. What a nose this rascal has for politics!
Senator Ted Cruz (TX) called for the Department of Justice to prosecute The Science for lying to Congress, which The Science smugly laughed off, perhaps knowing that his world-beating, maliciously incompetent leadership in the Coronavirus saga would end up incriminating and delegitimizing the entire corrupt, Pharma-captured US public health bureaucracy, with collateral damage everywhere else in government — and therefore that no authority in the land would dare to swear him under oath in a court-of-law. Or so he may think for now.
Meanwhile, Virologist Barry Schoub, Chairman of South Africa’s Ministerial Advisory Committee on COVID-19 Vaccines, declared the new Omicron Coronavirus “mild.” Could it be that the whole hoary Covid-19 narrative is falling apart now? Could Dr. Fauci and his sleazy associates in the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, the WHO, the Big Pharma C-suites, the grifting university research labs, the despicable social media combine, and yet more sinister outfits such as the CIA and the WEF — might this unholy host of villains and fixers find themselves on-the-run? And might Omicron represent for them some final grasp at the last straw of narrative control?
It’s pretty clear that citizens of the liberal democracies are fed up with being pushed around, jabbed, driven out of business, lied-to, gaslighted, and deprived of their livelihoods. They increasingly can’t believe any of the bullshit issued by the medical establishment and its political hand-maidens, and why should they? The countries with the highest vaccination rates also happen to be the ones with the highest Covid cases. Countries with low vaccination rates and widespread use of early treatment with common drugs have low Covid cases. Two weeks after Japan okayed the use of Ivermectin in mid-November of this year, cases fell from a big surge down to near zero. What part of that is complicated?
The people are out in the streets all over the world now. They have only begun to express their rage at the Covid narrative-driven new fashion for tyrannical government — government not of, for, and by the people, but over, on top of, and in spite of them. In Austria, an opéra bouffe toyland suddenly inflamed with Nazi-style strong-arming of its own citizens, the cops and the army may be switching their allegiance away from the government to the folks moiling in the streets. This is exactly the kind of country and the type of situation where governments fall. And when Austria goes down, others will follow.
Next door, outgoing German health minister, Jens Spahn, issued a warning that by the end of winter “pretty much everyone in Germany will be vaccinated, recovered or dead.” Was that supposed to be reassuring? Somewhere out in the universe’s recurve of time, the spirit of Dr. Josef Mengele is doing an end-zone dance. Down in Australia two frisky teens called in a threat to behead the premier (i.e., governor) of West Australia (capital: Perth). The world is suddenly remembering the back-story behind the old political phrase heads will roll, namely, what happens to the folks-in-charge when they piss-off enough of the people whose affairs they are responsible for running.
More to the point, to understand what is happening in America, just catch a glimpse of what has happened. By 2019, a rogue faction of bureaucrats was bent on shoving President Donald Trump off the game-board at all costs. Trump had become the fixed object of every anxiety neurosis that afflicted the thinking-governing-and-chattering classes. Conveniently, China also needed to get rid of Mr. Trump, for interfering with their plans to dominate the planet.
The Trump years were the narrative-formation years, as one plot after another, with their rafts of cockamamie stories — RussiaGate, UkraineGate, TaxGate — was hatched and then elaborated by the worker bees in Cable News and the WashPo / New York Times nexus. Imagine their frustration that those gambits failed. But all that narrative-shaping prepared them for the kill-shot when China gifted the world with Covid-19 (Dr. Anthony Fauci acting as midwife in the delivery). Dr. Fauci then went straight to work turning the splendid opportunity of the pandemic into history’s all-time greatest mindfuck. He did everything possible to prevent public health from controlling the disease, and then foisted on the terrorized public a set of dangerous, untested, gene-therapy treatments that he enjoyed a share of the profits in. His criminal acts have been revealed and fully documented and now he will fall. Wait for it.
The Covid-19 mindfuck worked to distract the country’s attention from the activities of characters like Lawfare avatar Marc Elias of the DNC’s Perkins Coie law firm and Marc Zuckerberg of Facebook, going all around the swing states in 2020 with sacks full of money, arranging election procedures such as mass mail-in voting with no voter ID to facilitate the victory of the obviously non compos mentis empty shell of “Joe Biden”. That did work. Just what the country needed, too, at this perilous moment of history: a fake head-of-state. The people mostly played along for two years until very lately, seeing at last how they have been robbed of their health, their wealth, their future, and very likely their children’s futures. Watch them now as they turn on the ones who made all that happen.
 
We've lost another upstanding citizen from the anti-vaxx movement. Maybe doing his *own research* wasn't such a great idea. May the Lord have mercy on his soul. 🙏


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Obviously he wasn’t a big believer in Darwinism, ironically too.
 
Because it's a very big assumption. The pesky "unvaccinated" could have been previously infected and, I love this part, "partially protected", and if so it would explain the stats that show the vaccine's ineffectiveness "appear" lower. The article is pure tripe!
First disease in history where supposedly natural immunity is non-existent or useless. I get that there have been diseases in human history where vaccines were needed to eradicate it. This isn't one of them. Personally, I think the inconsistency and rapid waning of the injectable therapeutics have made things worse, but that's just me.
 
Huh. The CDC must be spreading misinformation:


Florida - the third most populous state, but ranks just 16th in 7-day average of Chinese flu cases and with exactly zero - NONE, ZIP, ZERO - deaths the past 7 days.

Lockdown Central, Michigan, the 10th most populous state, has the 2nd highest number of cases and the 3rd highest number of deaths.

Hey 21IQ, you going to recant the stupid **** you said about Desantis and refer to the Michigan governor as "Deathmer"?

Yeah, didn't think so, you quivering queef.
 
You are 100%, absolutely, undeniably, without question - waffling.

You accused Mad of saying that people "should" make their vaccination decision based on their politics. Again - literally not what he said. But you said he said that.

It goes without saying...you utterly suck at this.
Yes I was pointing out that they were utterly skeptical of pharmaceutical companies and trump for years then as soon as the administration changed embraced it without question….

Heck i loved the concept of MRNA stuff eventually, but they just aren’t there yet …

It just irks me that having heard the failures and outright lies of the pharmaceutical industry for A co
It’s not waffling, it’s you obtuseness missing the point.

Provide a qualified source that is suggesting people rely on getting natural immunity, I’ll wait.
the issue is the people like me that have natural immunity should be treated the same if not better than the vaccinated…

I don’t get how you don’t see the vaccine is an incomplete process that doesn’t do the same thing as natural immunity

I don’t understand why they are pushing these particular vaccines so hard… maybe its money (most likely) maybe tgey just don’t want the mrna process to fail yet again? Maybe the goofy conspiracy theories are right and they do want to trim the population by a certain percentage… who knows? But there absolutely is an agenda there…
 
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