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Covid Vaccine

The vaccines aren’t mandated,

The vaccines are absolutely mandated. Perhaps your next zinger will be "Today is not Wednesday" followed up by "The Steelers did so beat the Bengals Sunday". Why do you insist on perpetually making claims such as these that are demonstrably false? Do you take pride in your ignorance? Wear it like a badge of honor?

people are free to quit their jobs.

You are literally a communist.

People are free to lose their income.
People are free not to eat.
People are free not to breathe.

It's a choice.

Said the likes of Lenin, Stalin, Pol Pot...
 
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Aaaaannnnnddddd once again, Floggy gets his teeth kicked in on point ONE, diverts to point TWO.

Floggy posts ****** link saying vaccines are better than natural immunity in a head to head battle.
TSF shreds this position, establishes for the 100th time the power of natural immunity, as studied/documented.
Floggy shifts to but, but, but, but....are doctors advising you not to get vaccinated?

Countless physicians are advising patients not to get the jab. Some are suing the Government. Many are prescribing Ivermectin and other therapeutics. They are not all in lockstep.

You direct your own-non-contributing *** to data. I do too much work to educate you already. I'd charge you a fee, but you wouldn't pay that either.
Stay on point, Tim. This started with the query of why previously infected people need to get vaccinated. I provided sources, you cried propaganda. Provide legitimate medical sources that state previously infected people are good to go and shouldn’t get vaccinated. While you’re at it, provide the source that claims the vaccines don’t offer consistent protection as you claim.
 
Stay on point, Tim. This started with the query of why previously infected people need to get vaccinated. I provided sources, you cried propaganda. Provide legitimate medical sources that state previously infected people are good to go and shouldn’t get vaccinated. While you’re at it, provide the source that claims the vaccines don’t offer consistent protection as you claim.

You're talking to a roomful of kindergarteners sticking crayons in their ears and noses. The day you ever get a rational, reasoned response in this thread, the SN servers may explode and disintegrate into a millions pieces. Brace yourself for the usual wave of willful ignorance, expletives and incoherent bluster from the unhinged MAGA crew. 🤡
 
The vaccines are absolutely mandated. Perhaps your next zinger will be "Today is not Wednesday" followed up by "The Steelers did so beat the Bengals Sunday". Why do you insist on perpetually making claims such as these that are demonstrably false? Do you take pride in your ignorance? Wear it like a badge of honor?



You are literally a communist.

People are free to lose their income.
People are free not to eat.
People are free not to breathe.

It's a choice.

Said the likes of Lenin, Stalin, Pol Pot...
What happens if someone doesn’t get vaccinated? They’re arrested? Abducted and they have vaccination forced on them? No? Guess what? The vaccines aren’t mandated.

People lose their jobs every day for any number of reasons. It’s not an entitlement.

They’re asking people to get a vaccine that’s been proven safe (spare me your nonsense) it’s not a ******* organ transplant.
 
Legitimate pieces? How about one?

Meantime, let me destroy this one, since you only read headlines (have I reminded you that you absolutely suck at this link game)?

First, the overall premise of the article is to get vaccinated before you get Covid, and not to wait on your body's natural immune system to fight it. That's 80% of the point of the article. Which isn't what we have been discussing. The question is - is natural immunity better than just being vaccinated? Which the answer is overwhelmingly, yes.

Two, you are quoting Johns Hopkins University. You are on official record for discrediting JHU and Doctor Makary. You cannot with any integrity now point to JHU as a legitimate source. Shows your confirmation bias.

Three, Anna Durbin licks Makary's boots. Compare their profiles and awards in the faculty section of JHU. She's literally not on the same plane, but ok.

Four, she makes the same mistakes every other proponent for mass vaccination makes, with some bullshit quotes like:
  • "It's Russian roulette," she says. "Young people tend to think they're invincible. But it just takes that one slip and your entire life could change." - she makes the fallacy of spreading misinformation trying to convince young people they are at "risk" from Covid when they are 900% more likely to die from drinking.
  • "With the delta variant, we're seeing many more young people on ventilators in hospitals and dying, Durbin says. " - really??? Where are these overwhelming numbers Professor? I mean, substantial, overwhelming evidence that this is of grave concern.
  • "And declining the vaccine is more than just a personal decision: An infected person can easily transmit the virus to others, including immunocompromised people at higher risk for grave illness and children under 12 who can't yet access the vaccines." - Ummm, professor, countless studies the world over have shown that the young don't spread Covid. For instance, not one teacher in the UK has gotten Covid from a student. None identified in the US yet either.
  • "We're seeing huge rates of hospitalizations and deaths, and you don't want to risk becoming one of those statistics." - actually we are seeing declining rates of deaths. But let's not facts stand in the way Prof.
  • "We have evidence showing that if you've been naturally infected with COVID-19 and you aren't vaccinated, your risk of getting reinfected with symptomatic disease is about 2.5–fold higher. " - and there you have it, she references the now very dated, and 250 person study from Kentucky that has been usurped by countless other studies. For a researcher, it's amazing she ignores the newer, larger sample studies that disprove this. I wonder why?
Five, the New England Journal of Medicine:


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I'd love to have Prof Durbin look at the NEJM study and compare that with the CDC Kentucky study. They say completely opposite things. Wonder what her position would be then?

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How many do YOU need?
Game.
Set.
Match.
McEnroe.......er Tim Steelersfan.
 
Read that earlier today, thought about posting it. SPOT on, especially the paragraph I highlighted.

Read it too now. So Japan used Ivermectin as well and their severe cases/hospitalizations went down to nearly zero? Just another huge example being ignored?

Again, this isn't about your health and safety, this is about your compliance and willingness to submit to tyrannical governmental bullshit.
 
You and others of your ilk should be quarantined in *dumbass* centers, kept at a safe distance from the general population.

What's that you say from Kazakhstan?
 
Legitimate pieces? How about one?

Meantime, let me destroy this one, since you only read headlines (have I reminded you that you absolutely suck at this link game)?

First, the overall premise of the article is to get vaccinated before you get Covid, and not to wait on your body's natural immune system to fight it. That's 80% of the point of the article. Which isn't what we have been discussing. The question is - is natural immunity better than just being vaccinated? Which the answer is overwhelmingly, yes.

Two, you are quoting Johns Hopkins University. You are on official record for discrediting JHU and Doctor Makary. You cannot with any integrity now point to JHU as a legitimate source. Shows your confirmation bias.

Three, Anna Durbin licks Makary's boots. Compare their profiles and awards in the faculty section of JHU. She's literally not on the same plane, but ok.

Four, she makes the same mistakes every other proponent for mass vaccination makes, with some bullshit quotes like:
  • "It's Russian roulette," she says. "Young people tend to think they're invincible. But it just takes that one slip and your entire life could change." - she makes the fallacy of spreading misinformation trying to convince young people they are at "risk" from Covid when they are 900% more likely to die from drinking.
  • "With the delta variant, we're seeing many more young people on ventilators in hospitals and dying, Durbin says. " - really??? Where are these overwhelming numbers Professor? I mean, substantial, overwhelming evidence that this is of grave concern.
  • "And declining the vaccine is more than just a personal decision: An infected person can easily transmit the virus to others, including immunocompromised people at higher risk for grave illness and children under 12 who can't yet access the vaccines." - Ummm, professor, countless studies the world over have shown that the young don't spread Covid. For instance, not one teacher in the UK has gotten Covid from a student. None identified in the US yet either.
  • "We're seeing huge rates of hospitalizations and deaths, and you don't want to risk becoming one of those statistics." - actually we are seeing declining rates of deaths. But let's not facts stand in the way Prof.
  • "We have evidence showing that if you've been naturally infected with COVID-19 and you aren't vaccinated, your risk of getting reinfected with symptomatic disease is about 2.5–fold higher. " - and there you have it, she references the now very dated, and 250 person study from Kentucky that has been usurped by countless other studies. For a researcher, it's amazing she ignores the newer, larger sample studies that disprove this. I wonder why?
Five, the New England Journal of Medicine:


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I'd love to have Prof Durbin look at the NEJM study and compare that with the CDC Kentucky study. They say completely opposite things. Wonder what her position would be then?

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How many do YOU need?

He stopped reading after "legitimate". But dayum, I don't know how a person with a shred of intellectual honesty could 'legitimately' argue that post much.

That leaves FloggedbyFraudci out, of course.
 
With that comment, you are officially 100% grade A retarded.

A Marxist. Plain and simple. I wish just ignorance because this is way more sinister.
 
The day you ever get a rational, reasoned response in this thread, the SN servers may explode and disintegrate into a millions pieces.

I hope you typed that comment tongue firmly planted in cheek. Otherwise, you're a grade A rubber room lunatic even worse than I thought. Thank god you live in the middle of bumfuck Slovenia and Romania.
 
What happens if someone doesn’t get vaccinated? They’re arrested? Abducted and they have vaccination forced on them? No? Guess what? The vaccines aren’t mandated.

People lose their jobs every day for any number of reasons. It’s not an entitlement.

They’re asking people to get a vaccine that’s been proven safe (spare me your nonsense) it’s not a ******* organ transplant.

They are not asking people to get a vaccine. They are hanging people's jobs over their heads - their livelihoods - telling them to get a vaccine or resign our position. That is not a choice - that is coercion. What are your thoughts on Joe Biden saying he absolutely wouldn't mandate vaccines during the debates only to turn around and say **** it - I'm doing mandates.

You are right, people lose their jobs everyday - having the governments hand in more people losing their jobs over this is complete overreach, but apparently some of you love the government having more and more power.

I have a name for people that love big daddy government - Boot Lickers
 



Two snakes, one room.
 
Gee it's almost like the mRNA treatment isn't as effective as your regular immune system and the demands by leftists that everyone be forced to take the jab is a political ploy to grab more power and drive Americans that don't want to take it into poverty and ruin....

 
They are not asking people to get a vaccine. They are hanging people's jobs over their heads - their livelihoods - telling them to get a vaccine or resign our position. That is not a choice - that is coercion. What are your thoughts on Joe Biden saying he absolutely wouldn't mandate vaccines during the debates only to turn around and say **** it - I'm doing mandates.

You are right, people lose their jobs everyday - having the governments hand in more people losing their jobs over this is complete overreach, but apparently some of you love the government having more and more power.

I have a name for people that love big daddy government - Boot Lickers
It’s a shot in the arm to end a ******* two year long pandemic. Spare me your drama.
 
It’s a shot in the arm to end a ******* two year long pandemic. Spare me your drama.
A shot…..i thought it was a vaccine. Didn’t you just say prior that only the looneys in here refer to it as a shot, no one else.

I have nothing against the shots, what i am against is government over reach and that doesnt matter who is in charge because i would say the same thing if this was a repub.

People should have choices about their health especially when it comes to a shot that was rushed out. With big pharmas track record of ******* people up with rushed out meds and devices lately i can see why folks would hesitate.

How do those boots taste, btw.
 
It’s a shot in the arm to end a ******* two year long pandemic. Spare me your drama.

2020 = no shots, less dead
2021 = close to 70% fully shot, more dead

The end.
 
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