Covid Vaccine

[Steeltime]

What made Trog’s post even more ludicrous is that what he’s trying to reference is apparently my incoherence……about my own post…..that Tim merely felt like being altruistic and explain to Trog since Trog was absent the day they taught reading comprehension.

 

[SteelerInLebanon]

This should be pinned to the top of the thread. It covers the entire discussion, A-to-Z. Kudos, Troglodyte.

The mRNA vaccines have not, will not and can't end the pandemic even if we had 100% vaccination. That is a scientific fact and you have been lied to by those worshipping at the feet of false claims. The vaccines do not stop the spread therefore they obviously can't stop the pandemic.

 

[Superman]

 

[Superman]

It had nothing to do with you.

However, you never did explain why you think it’s liberal to encourage vaccination. The coherence of that explanation has yet to be determined.

because its not a true vaccine and has well-documented adverse effects. yes, you CAN die if you get Covid. yes, you can DIE if you get the vaccine shot. Both have minute percentages happening, but why must someone inject something into their own body to make YOU safe?

 

[Superman]

Cherry picking is taking the one out of a million death after vaccination and concluding that it’s definitely not a coincidence.

Sadistic is spreading false and misleading information about life saving, pandemic ending vaccines for ideological reasons.

 

[Steeltime]

YEP!

Americans' behavior gets worse. No wonder our politics are lousy.

If politics is downstream from culture, then culture is downstream from character. And right now, we have a character crisis in America. It’s often characterized as a civility crisis.

www.marshallnewsmessenger.com

I am almost endlessly astounded at how bad memories are for those of the leftist persuasion. "Ooooh, civility is declining!"

Says the very group that mocked constraints on behavior, and promoted bizarre behavior, and labeled every political opponent a Nazi and murderer and rapist. Reagan was Hitler, GHW Bush was Hitler, GW Bush was Hitler, and hoo-boy, Trump? OH. MY. GOD. Literally Hitler!!

Rep. Keith Ellison, D-Minn., the odds-on favorite to become the Democratic National Committee's chairman, had a long association with the anti-Semitic Nation of Islam. He compared then-President George W. Bush and 9/11 to Adolf Hitler and the destruction of the Reichstag, the German parliament building: "9/11 is the juggernaut in American history and it allows ... it's almost like, you know, the Reichstag fire," Ellison said. "After the Reichstag was burned, they blamed the Communists for it, and it put the leader of that country (Hitler) in a position where he could basically have authority to do whatever he wanted."

Comparing Republicans to Nazis has long been a national pastime of the Democratic Party.

During the1964 Goldwater/Johnson presidential race, Republican presidential candidate Barry Goldwater accepted an invitation to visit an American military installation located in Bavaria, Germany. On "CBS Evening News," hosted by Walter Cronkite, correspondent Daniel Schorr said: "It is now clear that Sen. Goldwater's interview with Der Spiegel, with its hard line appealing to right-wing elements in Germany, was only the start of a move to link up with his opposite numbers in Germany." The reaction shot -- when the cameras returned to Cronkite -- showed the "most trusted man in America" gravely shaking his head. When Goldwater accepted the Republican nomination, Democratic California Gov. Pat Brown said, "The stench of fascism is in the air."

About Ronald Reagan, Steven F. Hayward, author of "The Age Of Reagan" wrote: "Liberals hated Reagan in the 1980s. Pure and simple. They used language that would make the most fervid anti-Obama rhetoric of the Tea Party seem like, well, a tea party. Democratic Rep. William Clay of Missouri charged that Reagan was 'trying to replace the Bill of Rights with fascist precepts lifted verbatim from Mein Kampf.'"

After Republicans took control of the House in the mid-'90s, Rep. John Dingell, D-Mich., compared the newly conservative-controlled House to "the Duma and the Reichstag," referring to the legislature set up by Czar Nicholas II of Russia and the parliament of the German Weimar Republic that brought Hitler to power.

About President George W. Bush, billionaire Democratic contributor George Soros said, "(He displays the) supremacist ideology of Nazi Germany," and that his administration used rhetoric that echoes his childhood in occupied Hungary. "When I hear Bush say, 'You're either with us or against us,'" Soros said, "it reminds me of the Germans." He also said: "The (George W.) Bush administration and the Nazi and communist regimes all engaged in the politics of fear. ... Indeed, the Bush administration has been able to improve on the techniques used by the Nazi and communist propaganda machines."

Former Vice President Al Gore said: "(George W. Bush's) executive branch has made it a practice to try and control and intimidate news organizations, from PBS to CBS to Newsweek. ... And every day, they unleash squadrons of digital brown shirts to harass and hector any journalist who is critical of the President."

Actor/singer and activist Harry Belafonte, who marched with Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., called Bush a racist. When asked whether the number and prominence of blacks in the Bush administration perhaps suggested a lack of racism, Belafonte said, "Hitler had a lot of Jews high up in the hierarchy of the Third Reich."

NAACP Chairman Julian Bond played the Nazi card several times. Speaking at historically black Fayetteville State University in North Carolina in 2006, Bond said, "The Republican Party would have the American flag and the swastika flying side by side."

Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, who dared to rein in excessive public employee compensation packages, received the full Nazi treatment. The hard-left blog Libcom.org posted in 2011: "Scott Walker is a fascist, perhaps not in the classical sense since he doesn't operate in the streets, but a fascist nonetheless. ... He is a fascist, for his program takes immediate and direct aim at (a sector of) the working class."

After the 2012 Republican National Convention, California Democratic Party Chairman John Burton said, "(Republicans) lie, and they don't care if people think they lie. As long as you lie, (Nazi propaganda minister) Joseph Goebbels -- the big lie -- you keep repeating it."

The chairman of the South Carolina Democratic Party, Dick Harpootlian, in 2012, compared the state's Republican governor to Hitler's mistress. When told that the Republicans were holding a competing press conference at a NASCAR Hall of Fame basement studio, Harpootlian told the South Carolina delegation: "(Gov. Nikki Haley) was down in the bunker, a la Eva Braun."

If not the Nazi card, it's the race card or the sexist card or the homophobic card. This "I'm right; you're evil" brand of politics has a lot to do with why voters elected Donald Trump, rather than Hillary "basket of deplorables" Clinton, to serve as our next president.

COPYRIGHT 2016 LAURENCE A. ELDER

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www.realclearpolitics.com

During the controversy over Bush’s Electoral College win, Jesse Jackson claimed the Bush campaign had used “Nazi tactics” and his brother Jeb had targeted Holocaust victims (part of a history of Jackson’s Nazi analogies).

FLASHBACK: All the Times Liberals Called George W. Bush a Nazi

Democrats can't discuss policy so they label dissenters as racists or Nazis...

thefederalistpapers.org

What so bothers the left now is that a lot of those they used to label as Nazis are not taking their **** any more - particularly Trump but also Tom Cotton, Josh Hawley, Ted Cruz, Kristi Noem, Tim Scott, Matt Gaetz, Rand Paul and their newest target, Ron DeSantis.

Lefties sobbing about those "meany" Republicans? Tell it to somebody who cares. YOU have been waging this war for at least 50 years. Time for you to feel the costs of the war.

 

[Superman]

slow your roll, Jimmy. Else Nancy comes for you. Need I remind you...

“I’m a street fighter”: Nancy Pelosi says she could have fought Capitol rioters

Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi was on Capitol Hill when a violent mob broke in — and she says if they confronted her, she could have fought them.

www.wbtv.com

 

[ZonaBurgh]

Cherry picking is taking the one out of a million death after vaccination and concluding that it’s definitely not a coincidence.

Sadistic is spreading false and misleading information about life saving, pandemic ending vaccines for ideological reasons.

And yet you manage to do both, apparently without knowing it. This "vaccine" is not pandemic ending, so would that not be spreading false and misleading information for ideological reasons?

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Gee, why stop at five different (and overlapping) date ranges? Why not make it even more convoluted?

If you weren't an obtuse, cranial-deformed retard, you'd recall from my very first reply to YOUR report you provided to us from WA state in Oct that THEIR date ranges are screwed up and designed to hide the scary truth.

The date ranges are not overlapping you dumbass. Go read YOUR report. The date ranges are not COMPARABLE. They use different ranges for cases, deaths, hospitalizations.

For instance, in their Nov 12 report, they reported as follows:
Cases: From Feb 1 to Nov 2
Deaths: Feb 1 to Oct 12
Hospitalizations: Feb 1 to Oct 27

They have no similar date patterns they report on. They omit January. All points previously brought up to you that you forgot.

Screen shots here from their report showing THIER ****** up date ranges: https://www.steelernation.com/forums/threads/covid-vaccine.36523/post-873049. (but of course you are too lazy to go look).

Go look up your own report you provided.

Wait...you posted it...but don't remember it...and can't now find it? Like you can't remember a ******* thing anyone posts here???

Stunned.

The WA state data does not, intentionally, show period over period or month over month data. They just keep showing ALL data from January, updated each month, and by so doing wash down the current bad data by including the previously better data from earlier in the year.

The population for those deaths is overwhelming vaccinated. Why does the small unvaccinated minority make up ~75% of the deaths? Why are they so much more likely to die?

The point...you miss...again.

As the vaccines wane, and oh they have, more and more people with the vaccines are catching Covid, getting sick, and dying. Dr. Fauci agrees with me. So does the data.

Damn near 50% of all cases in WA now are vaxed peoples. That number was in the 20% range 3 months ago.

Each month, your argument crumbles further and further.

Comical to watch.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

OMG that is an epic watch.

This realization she is talking about that Leftists go through....and many are (not the ones here....yet)...is a joy to see.

By the way, HIT HIT HIT HIT HIT HIT

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Great! the faster everyone gets Omicold the faster this is over.

Yep. As I posted before and bears repeating, this may be our airborne vaccine that ends this ****.

The Spanish Flu was ended when a weaker more transmissible variant that everyone caught drove out the original. Because damn near everyone was infected with a variant that wasn't gonna harm them, the other variants had no hosts and thus died out.

Omicron swept through South Africa, did utterly little to no damage. It's doing little to no damage everywhere, but everyone's getting it.

Floggy has jokingly run around saying "Tim says everyone should get Covid and get natural defense how stupid." Now, some are advising that IF this happens and the vast majority of us do get Omicron, it could end the pandemic.

Thank god...the shots aren't ending it.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

I’m quite certain that her husband isn’t mocking her death…

California prosecutor who campaigned against vaccine mandates dies of Covid

Kelly Ernby, who recently ran for the state assembly, was unvaccinated at the time of her death, husband says

www.theguardian.com

Sad. I saw this last week, but not surprised you're just now posting it.

It's almost as sad as all those poor fools that got vaccinated, believed in their salvation, then drowned to death inside their own lungs from Covid. Imagine how stunned they were. And their families.

Sad world.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

It had nothing to do with you.

However, you never did explain why you think it’s liberal to encourage vaccination. The coherence of that explanation has yet to be determined.

Can I offer you some advice, and for once, will you listen to people smarter than you?

Before you proceed down this rabbit hole "gotya attempt" you are so infamous for....take a detour. Go to a dictionary website. Look up the world liberal and its varying meanings. The context in which it can be used.

Then rethink if you want to continue to go after Fed again, lest you be humiliated again (not that you care, you get your *** beat over a dozen times a day here anyway).

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Cherry picking is taking the one out of a million death after vaccination and concluding that it’s definitely not a coincidence.

Actually, this is just a case of flat out misinformation and the post should be banned as such.

New Mexico just reported more than 40% of their deaths are vaxed people.
Your Forbes article showed that 22-26% of all Americans who died last fall were vaxed.
WA state data irrefutably shows 26+% of their deaths are vaxed people.

You're trying to spread disinformation saying the rate of death after the VAX is 1 in a million.

Mods?

Sadistic is spreading false and misleading information about life saving, pandemic ending vaccines for ideological reasons.

The vaccines aren't ending the pandemic. If you bothered to pull your head from MSNBC's ***, you'd notice we are setting world wide records in cases.

That is literally the utter opposite of ending a pandemic. The utter definition of stupidity is to declare otherwise.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

The mRNA vaccines have not, will not and can't end the pandemic even if we had 100% vaccination. That is a scientific fact and you have been lied to by those worshipping at the feet of false claims. The vaccines do not stop the spread therefore they obviously can't stop the pandemic.

It's official now. They are both retarded.

You are correct. 100%, non-arguable. It's like saying you cannot walk to Mars. You cannot. These vaccines cannot end the pandemic. They 100% cannot. A vaccine prevents spread. These do not.

So to claim that these shots can end the pandemic is 100% retarded. Stupid. Words of imbeciles.

 

[Steeltime]

It's like saying you cannot walk to Mars. You cannot.

February 1, 2021: Glenn Kessler, Washington Compost: Tom Cotton says you cannot walk to Mars. Four Pinnochios. Scientists say you CAN walk to Mars.

January 7, 2022: Glenn Kessler, Washington Compost: Turns out you cannot walk to Mars, but Tom Cotton's statement still given one Pinnochio since it lacks context.

 

[Troglodyte]

The mRNA vaccines have not, will not and can't end the pandemic even if we had 100% vaccination. That is a scientific fact and you have been lied to by those worshipping at the feet of false claims. The vaccines do not stop the spread therefore they obviously can't stop the pandemic.

Wow! From “It’s the flu, brah” to “the pandemic will never end!”

The pandemic has more or less ended for the vaccinated. Israel’s seeing an average of 2 Covid deaths/day and even they aren’t 100% vaccinated. If the US was 100% vaccinated, daily deaths would be a lot closer to fourteen than fourteen-hundred.

 

[Superman]

Wow! From “It’s the flu, brah” to “the pandemic will never end!”

The pandemic has more or less ended for the vaccinated. Israel’s seeing an average of 2 Covid deaths/day and even they aren’t 100% vaccinated. If the US was 100% vaccinated, daily deaths would be a lot closer to fourteen than fourteen-hundred.

Stormtrooper Flog reporting to duty.

how many goddamn times can one person miss the ******* point?



has the flu been eradicated? will it ever?
(hint, the answer to both questions is "no")

 

[Troglodyte]

because its not a true vaccine and has well-documented adverse effects. yes, you CAN die if you get Covid. yes, you can DIE if you get the vaccine shot. Both have minute percentages happening, but why must someone inject something into their own body to make YOU safe?

Why must people obey speed limits and traffic signals to make YOU safe? Why must people only use firearms in designated areas to make YOU safe? FREEDOM!!!

 

[Troglodyte]

Stormtrooper Flog reporting to duty.

how many goddamn times can one person miss the ******* point?



has the flu been eradicated? will it ever?
(hint, the answer to both questions is "no")

So we’re in the middle of a flu PANDEMIC?

 

[Superman]

So we’re in the middle of a flu PANDEMIC?

 

[Superman]

Why must people obey speed limits and traffic signals to make YOU safe? Why must people only use firearms in designated areas to make YOU safe? FREEDOM!!!

can you point to where people are being forced to drive?
can you point to where everyone has a gun and everyone is forced to use it (please, for all intents and purposes exclude the gun-free safe space utopias of Democratically controlled cities)?

 

[Ironcitysteelers]

Yep. As I posted before and bears repeating, this may be our airborne vaccine that ends this ****.

The Spanish Flu was ended when a weaker more transmissible variant that everyone caught drove out the original. Because damn near everyone was infected with a variant that wasn't gonna harm them, the other variants had no hosts and thus died out.

Omicron swept through South Africa, did utterly little to no damage. It's doing little to no damage everywhere, but everyone's getting it.

Floggy has jokingly run around saying "Tim says everyone should get Covid and get natural defense how stupid." Now, some are advising that IF this happens and the vast majority of us do get Omicron, it could end the pandemic.

Thank god...the shots aren't ending it.

Did Sleepy invent this? I knew **** for pants had it in him.

 

[IndySteel]

I just took an aspirin so Flog doesn't get a headache.

 

[Steeltime]

Wow! From “It’s the flu, brah” to “the pandemic will never end!”

The CHINESE flu.*

* Avoid misinformation about the Chinese flu, such as the claim it is natural in origin or that a shot can prevent you from getting the Chinese flu, by visiting https://Chineseflumythsbydumbpeople.com

The pandemic has more or less ended for the vaccinated. Israel’s seeing an average of 2 Covid deaths/day and even they aren’t 100% vaccinated. If the US was 100% vaccinated, daily deaths would be a lot closer to fourteen than fourteen-hundred.

Wait ... you spent A YEAR harping on cases, cases, cases, cases, cases. You remember that, right?

So now - NOW that an ancient blithering dementia-addled imbecile is in charge - the fact that the NUMBER of cases is at an all-time high does not matter and we are concerned ONLY about DEATHS from the Chinese flu?

If cases are your barometer, the the Chinese flu is never "going away." It got out of the lab, China made sure it spread around the globe, and it is here to stay. So here's a thought - maybe, just maybe criticize the murderous regime responsible for the virus? You are unable to do so, but hoo-*******-boy, Donald Trump? No accusation is beneath you.