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Covid Vaccine

Refusal to acknowledge that Covid has a large number of possible side effects, not the least of which is death, is stupid and ignorant.
Doubling down on your stupidity I see. For those under 65 what are the odds of dying? The possible side effects of Covid happen whether you are vaccinated or not. It still potentially harms your heart or did before Omicron. The Vaccines look likely to do exactly the same type of damage to the heart as having the virus. I might or might not ever get the virus but if I get the vaccine I am absolutely exposing myself to risk. Yes there is risk both ways and it depends on your age and health but it shouldn't be anyone's decision or business but my own when not taking the vaccine doesn't improve anyone elses chances. Again ******** my daughter is fully vaccinated and yet is till home throwing up and feeling like ****.
 
Or he just enjoys riling you guys up
Eristic in nature, contentious and likely a narcissistic personality. I tend to shun away from people like this and find the ignore button for the Hungarian appropriate.
Trog is simply an ideolog and despite how hard he tries, doesn't rile up anyone but himself.
 
Eristic in nature, contentious and likely a narcissistic personality. I tend to shun away from people like this and find the ignore button for the Hungarian appropriate.
Trog is simply an ideolog and despite how hard he tries, doesn't rile up anyone but himself.
^^^
 
Eristic in nature, contentious and likely a narcissistic personality. I tend to shun away from people like this and find the ignore button for the Hungarian appropriate.
Trog is simply an ideolog and despite how hard he tries, doesn't rile up anyone but himself.

Definitely narcissistic. I don't hang with narcissistic people at all. They're repulsive.
 
Were any of you hospitalized? If Covid had resulted in a small fraction of the hospitalizations that it has actually caused, the last two years would have been very different. Behold the vaccine.
Save that ****. That's not what you said. You said "prevented their illness" implying that if they were vaccinated they wouldn't have gotten sick in the first place, which you know is demonstrably false. Stop trying to move the goal post.

So again, I am fully vaccinated and contracted COVID. How did that happen? Please explain, and your little sidekick can chime in if he wants, how these vaccines can end the pandemic if fully vaccinated individuals can catch and spread covid.

I wait with baited breath.
 

You've twice now asked for a source I provided. In fact, two days ago you asked for a source to this very point. And I provided it then.

Proof you don't read, you won't read, and no facts will sway you from your error-ridden positions.
 
Were any of you hospitalized? If Covid had resulted in a small fraction of the hospitalizations that it has actually caused, the last two years would have been very different. Behold the vaccine.

What % of people who get Covid, especially Omicron, are hospitalized?

We'll wait.
 
Fascinating phenomena watching MAGAs go back and forth on Covid. Out of once side of their mouths they're sugarcoating & whitewashing the actual dangers of the pandemic, mocking mask and mitigation measures, while out of the other side lambasting the notion vaccinations don't provide 100% bulletproof protection. Go figure. 🤷‍♂️
In all seriousness, can you please scientifically explain how cloth masks prevent transmission of a microscopic aerosol virus?
Even Fauci will tell you surgical masks only prevent large droplets from escaping……DURING SURGERIES. Where bodies are open and exposed and the environment must be sterile. But if the doctors/nurses in that operating room had a virus, those masks are not preventing transmission.
The ol’ “something is better than nothing” mantra doesn’t apply here. The call for masks is nothing more than optics. The masks we all wear, the welder’s face shields, the dog cones on shame, are all the equivalent of a chain link fence stopping me throwing handfuls of sand at it. It’ll catch a few grains, but the majority are getting through.
Somebody with COVID doesn’t need to sneeze directly in your open mouth for you to get infected.
 
Doubling down on your stupidity I see. For those under 65 what are the odds of dying? The possible side effects of Covid happen whether you are vaccinated or not. It still potentially harms your heart or did before Omicron. The Vaccines look likely to do exactly the same type of damage to the heart as having the virus. I might or might not ever get the virus but if I get the vaccine I am absolutely exposing myself to risk. Yes there is risk both ways and it depends on your age and health but it shouldn't be anyone's decision or business but my own when not taking the vaccine doesn't improve anyone elses chances. Again ******** my daughter is fully vaccinated and yet is till home throwing up and feeling like ****.
Nonsense. Please provide your sources.

Do you really believe that there’s no difference in side effects for vaccinated people and the vaccine pose the same risks that Covid does and yet millions of doctors sit silent on the matter? That’s ******* idiotic and delusional.
 
What % of people who get Covid, especially Omicron, are hospitalized?

We'll wait.
Enough that it disrupted the entire world and overwhelmed ICUs, you ******* moron. There are currently 120,000 hospitalized. A second of my daughters friends was recently hospitalized (she wanted to get vaxed and her piece of ****, ******* idiot father wouldn’t let her, btw).

How soon you forget how somber and serious this board got when clown Donald got hospitalized with Covid.

“What are the odds?” ******* idiot.
 
Were any of you hospitalized? If Covid had resulted in a small fraction of the hospitalizations that it has actually caused, the last two years would have been very different. Behold the vaccine.
The odds that 98% of us that have had Covid would have been hospitalized would be slim to none, without having been vaccinated.
 
Save that ****. That's not what you said. You said "prevented their illness" implying that if they were vaccinated they wouldn't have gotten sick in the first place, which you know is demonstrably false. Stop trying to move the goal post.

So again, I am fully vaccinated and contracted COVID. How did that happen? Please explain, and your little sidekick can chime in if he wants, how these vaccines can end the pandemic if fully vaccinated individuals can catch and spread covid.

I wait with baited breath.
Just don’t hold your breath waiting.
I / We need you around, Sarge.
 
Enough that it disrupted the entire world and overwhelmed ICUs, you ******* moron.

What %? How many hospitals being overwhelmed are due to staffing shortages?

There are currently 120,000 hospitalized.

Link? Because your data is wrong.

How many of those are hospitalized with Covid, or because of Covid?

Do you know how many hospital beds are in the USA? Just shy of 920,000. Do you know what current capacity looks like? Nope. Here you go.

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Hospitals aim to be at 80-90% filled all the time. Nationwide, we are currently at 81.83% hospital ICU beds full. 28.51% of those beds used are due to Covid. There are 14,822 ICU beds that are staffed sitting empty.

Inpatient beds are only 79.01% utilized. 18.13% of those are for Covid. 161,804 of those beds are empty.

Facts hurt ideology.

A second of my daughters friends was recently hospitalized (she wanted to get vaxed and her piece of ****, ******* idiot father wouldn’t let her, btw).

Anecdote. Sorry for her. Is she overweight? Comorbidities? None of the dozens I know of right now that have Covid have more than the sniffles. All are vaxed however. Shouldn't be getting Covid....if you are.....vaccinated.

How soon you forget how somber and serious this board got when clown Donald got hospitalized with Covid.

I don't recall it being somber at all. All of us knew he had a 99.87% chance of survival. Do you do drugs daily, or just on weekends? Or is it just severe memory problems? I mean, you can't remember what's posted on the very prior page, so....I doubt you remember that deep into 2020.

“What are the odds?” ******* idiot.

The odds are 99.87% you'll get Covid and live.
 
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In all seriousness, can you please scientifically explain how cloth masks prevent transmission of a microscopic aerosol virus?
Even Fauci will tell you surgical masks only prevent large droplets from escaping……DURING SURGERIES. Where bodies are open and exposed and the environment must be sterile. But if the doctors/nurses in that operating room had a virus, those masks are not preventing transmission.
The ol’ “something is better than nothing” mantra doesn’t apply here. The call for masks is nothing more than optics. The masks we all wear, the welder’s face shields, the dog cones on shame, are all the equivalent of a chain link fence stopping me throwing handfuls of sand at it. It’ll catch a few grains, but the majority are getting through.
Somebody with COVID doesn’t need to sneeze directly in your open mouth for you to get infected.

Andddddddd.....given they are now sending nurses back to hospitals 5 days after contracting covid while STILL symptomatic says a LOT.
 
Nonsense. Please provide your sources.

Do you really believe that there’s no difference in side effects for vaccinated people and the vaccine pose the same risks that Covid does and yet millions of doctors sit silent on the matter? That’s ******* idiotic and delusional.

Link?
 
Nonsense. Please provide your sources.

Do you really believe that there’s no difference in side effects for vaccinated people and the vaccine pose the same risks that Covid does and yet millions of doctors sit silent on the matter? That’s ******* idiotic and delusional.
Yes from actual scientists the heart issues may be caused equally by the disease and by the mRNA vaccines as they trigger the same reactions. The vaccine may not cause some of the other illness related issues like pneumonia but it still triggers things that are dangerous and we are making people face those risks intentionally.
 
Remember when Tibsticles got himself all turned on about that lawyers getting Covid arguing to the Supreme Court?

Yeah, about that.

Whoops.

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Remember when Tibsticles got himself all turned on about that lawyers getting Covid arguing to the Supreme Court?

Yeah, about that.

Whoops.

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“Because of course”……….?
🤣😂😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
 
So again, I am fully vaccinated and contracted COVID. How did that happen? Please explain, and your little sidekick can chime in if he wants, how these vaccines can end the pandemic if fully vaccinated individuals can catch and spread covid.

You may find some answers here, Sarge. Omicron seems to be a different animal than previous strains. Less dangerous as far as symptoms, but exponentially more contagious.

 
You may find some answers here, Sarge. Omicron seems to be a different animal than previous strains. Less dangerous as far as symptoms, but exponentially more contagious.

In other news, water is wet and humans breathe air.
We’ve literally been saying this for pages, and it’s been known since it 1st broke in South Africa.
Like ALL other viruses before it, it has become less deadly and more contagious with each mutation off the original strand.
 
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