10,000 no shows at the MNF game. You weren't missed...

[F83]

and just to think the capicity jumps next year from 65050 to 68550.

 

[cpollock]

The other issue is the price of the tickets -- with more and more people getting 60+ HD TV's they are opting to STAY in the comfort of their own homes with a frig full of beer than to travel to the Stadium and pay $7+ for a beer. They are also trying to force tailgating out. What was once parking lots are now Hotels,. Amphitheater and Restaurants.

Roger keeps saying he is trying to enhance the fan experience -- although EVERYTHING he has done has been to ALIENATE them -- He did it to women last year with the implementation of the "Clear Bag Policy' -- Really..-- There was a time when I took a DUFFEL bag into the games -- blankets, coffee , Hot chocolate (and a few additives ). I understand that the world has become a VERY dangerous place but come on -- women terrorists ....

They have priced the average person right out of the game. Steeler ticket prices have DOUBLED since Heinz field was opened and the price of concessions have gone through the roof . I do not purchase ANYTHING once I am in the game. And pretty much everyone around me doesn't either.

If I had not hurt my leg I would have been at the game!! But NO additional money would have been spent by me (except MAYBE to buy a 50/50 raffle ticket since the last 3 games the winner got over $50,000 )

 

[cpollock]

and just to think the capicity jumps next year from 65050 to 68550.

and those seats will be sold - QUICKLY

 

[Hines57]

The other issue is the price of the tickets -- with more and more people getting 60+ HD TV's they are opting to STAY in the comfort of their own homes with a frig full of beer than to travel to the Stadium and pay $7+ for a beer. They are also trying to force tailgating out. What was once parking lots are now Hotels,. Amphitheater and Restaurants.

Roger keeps saying he is trying to enhance the fan experience -- although EVERYTHING he has done has been to ALIENATE them -- He did it to women last year with the implementation of the "Clear Bag Policy' -- Really..-- There was a time when I took a DUFFEL bag into the games -- blankets, coffee , Hot chocolate (and a few additives ). I understand that the world has become a VERY dangerous place but come on -- women terrorists ....

They have priced the average person right out of the game. Steeler ticket prices have DOUBLED since Heinz field was opened and the price of concessions have gone through the roof . I do not purchase ANYTHING once I am in the game. And pretty much everyone around me doesn't either.

If I had not hurt my leg I would have been at the game!! But NO additional money would have been spent by me (except MAYBE to buy a 50/50 raffle ticket since the last 3 games the winner got over $50,000 )

That 50/50 turned my head when I saw it was $40K. I was like where the hell do I buy those tix. That's worth throwing a few bucks at to get lucky.

 

[MT~Forged]

Sorry Wing but this is not even close - you have to remember that the Steelers have SOLD out all their games and the tickets are already paid for. So if the seats are empty then it is the FAN that is loosing the money not the organization .

I believe he was refering to the $50 that WOULD HAVE been spent on beer, food, etc......

 

[keslerclan]

The other issue is the price of the tickets -- with more and more people getting 60+ HD TV's they are opting to STAY in the comfort of their own homes with a frig full of beer than to travel to the Stadium and pay $7+ for a beer. They are also trying to force tailgating out. What was once parking lots are now Hotels,. Amphitheater and Restaurants.

Roger keeps saying he is trying to enhance the fan experience -- although EVERYTHING he has done has been to ALIENATE them -- He did it to women last year with the implementation of the "Clear Bag Policy' -- Really..-- There was a time when I took a DUFFEL bag into the games -- blankets, coffee , Hot chocolate (and a few additives ). I understand that the world has become a VERY dangerous place but come on -- women terrorists ....

They have priced the average person right out of the game. Steeler ticket prices have DOUBLED since Heinz field was opened and the price of concessions have gone through the roof . I do not purchase ANYTHING once I am in the game. And pretty much everyone around me doesn't either.

If I had not hurt my leg I would have been at the game!! But NO additional money would have been spent by me (except MAYBE to buy a 50/50 raffle ticket since the last 3 games the winner got over $50,000 )

Hope your leg is okay.

BTW, you're absolutely right about the security. I remember having been told I could NOT bring in my 'soft case' for my mini-field binoculars which wasn't ANY bigger than my 'soft' cell-phone case. Had to ditch it right there as I wasn't about to waste an hour to find my car at the SB in Tampa and re-wait the line. Mind you, no cameras were allowed either BUT people all around me had giant cameras w lenses as long as a foot.

NONE of this would have to be so invasive and silly if we were allowed to PROFILE. Police don't go to the "old-folks home" looking for bank robbers. They profile using "usual suspect" profiles. Maybe it's not PC to profile BUT if you don't profile...IMO, you are stupid beyond reason.

Roger has done nothing for the women who watch the game except make them want to watch MLS more with the way he has handled his rule changes.

 

[cpollock]

I believe he was refering to the $50 that WOULD HAVE been spent on beer, food, etc......

and I am saying that MOST season ticket holder don't BUY concessions -- they eat and drink in the parking lot before and AFTER the game - another reason to try to get rid of tailgating

 

[Black & Gold Bleeder]

Oh by the way parking is like 35 dollars and up. and I had to walk at least 1/2 mile to the stadium

 

[Wingman]

Sorry Wing but this is not even close - you have to remember that the Steelers have SOLD out all their games and the tickets are already paid for. So if the seats are empty then it is the FAN that is loosing the money not the organization .

Actually it is exactly what I said it was. Fans do not show up they do not spend that 50.00 at the stadium, Beer, Food, memorabilia and programs do not get sold to empty seats. I would not find it hard to believe that the average fan spends an additional 50.00 when in the stadium. That does not include parking or funds spent outside the stadium.

You might not spend money not everyone needs to I said average. There are folks that eat and drink at games and that is expensive. There are guys that buy memorabilia. They have a chance to buy shirts jerseys etc at the stadium as well. All that merchandising is huge, which is why the nfl keeps pushing it so much.

In going to a sports bar to watch the game with a huge number of other displaced steeler fans it is normal for me to spend $50 to 60 dollars while there. I would not anticipate spending less at the game, in fact it is likely to be much more as I would likely consume the same amount of food and drink but end up paying much more for it.

I also understand where you are coming from as well. Folks like yourself that are in the area and have ways of conserving money on those things will do so. I suspect that a lot of the empty seats are from folks that might have had to make a bit more effort to get to the game than the folks that are close enough to attend all the time regardless of where the seats were.

My reasoning for that is the drop in ticket prices that folks were trying to sell. Normally there are people always trying to get a ticket and the price is high. My brother was and might still have season tickets. He used to sell between 2 to 4 game tickets a year and it paid for his tickets for the season. Those folks that bought his tickets were from out of town and likely spent a lot at the game because it was not something they could count on doing again.

I really think a lot of money is generated by the concessions of all types at the stadium.

 

[SteelerAl]

Actually it is exactly what I said it was. Fans do not show up they do not spend that 50.00 at the stadium, Beer, Food, memorabilia and programs do not get sold to empty seats. I would not find it hard to believe that the average fan spends an additional 50.00 when in the stadium. That does not include parking or funds spent outside the stadium.

You might not spend money not everyone needs to I said average. There are folks that eat and drink at games and that is expensive. There are guys that buy memorabilia. They have a chance to buy shirts jerseys etc at the stadium as well. All that merchandising is huge, which is why the nfl keeps pushing it so much.

In going to a sports bar to watch the game with a huge number of other displaced steeler fans it is normal for me to spend $50 to 60 dollars while there. I would not anticipate spending less at the game, in fact it is likely to be much more as I would likely consume the same amount of food and drink but end up paying much more for it.

I also understand where you are coming from as well. Folks like yourself that are in the area and have ways of conserving money on those things will do so. I suspect that a lot of the empty seats are from folks that might have had to make a bit more effort to get to the game than the folks that are close enough to attend all the time regardless of where the seats were.

My reasoning for that is the drop in ticket prices that folks were trying to sell. Normally there are people always trying to get a ticket and the price is high. My brother was and might still have season tickets. He used to sell between 2 to 4 game tickets a year and it paid for his tickets for the season. Those folks that bought his tickets were from out of town and likely spent a lot at the game because it was not something they could count on doing again.

I really think a lot of money is generated by the concessions of all types at the stadium.

It is not a lot of money to NFL teams. $50,000 (just to use your example of 10,000 people spending $50/each) is a rounding error.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

My reasoning for that is the drop in ticket prices that folks were trying to sell. Normally there are people always trying to get a ticket and the price is high. My brother was and might still have season tickets. He used to sell between 2 to 4 game tickets a year and it paid for his tickets for the season. Those folks that bought his tickets were from out of town and likely spent a lot at the game because it was not something they could count on doing again.

Supply and demand. Pre-recession I saw an article on the toughest tickets to get in sports, based on availability and scalper's premiums. #1...NASCAR race in Bristol (I've been to three). #2...Pittsburgh Steelers home game. These days Bristol doesn't sell out and you can get Steelers tickets for face and sometimes less.

 

[strat68]

It is too bad those seats go empty. There is a charity in Pittsburgh called Tickets for Kids that will take all they can get. That is where my pre-season tickets go.

 

[JJ_Steel]

It is not a lot of money to NFL teams. $50,000 (just to use your example of 10,000 people spending $50/each) is a rounding error.

It's $500,000 , I hope you're not an accountant.

 

[Black & Gold Bleeder]

. These days Bristol doesn't sell out and you can get Steelers tickets for face and sometimes less.

Did you see the spring race at charlotte? The whole turn 2 and down the back stretch were empty.

 

[Wingman]

It's $500,000 , I hope you're not an accountant.

Maybe he is just having a bad day, or he is using the math that is being used by our government to tell us that things like health care won't go up when they begin to ruin I mean run it.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

Did you see the spring race at charlotte? The whole turn 2 and down the back stretch were empty.

Continuing recession and high gas prices. Bomma hates rednecks.

 

[Wingman]

Continuing recession and high gas prices. Bomma hates rednecks.

Based on the job he has done so far he hates Americans unless he sees them on a golf course.

 

[Bigappleyinzer]

You guys are blaming it on the recession?

Pittsburgh Unemployment Rate: 6.2%
Cleveland Unemployment: 9.5%

Yet their stadium is continually well attended...

 

[Wingman]

You guys are blaming it on the recession?

Pittsburgh Unemployment Rate: 6.2%
Cleveland Unemployment: 9.5%

Yet there stadium is continually well attended...

Unemployment rates have been massaged into useless numbers. Long term unemployed, those that are with out benefits are not counted but they still have no jobs.

 

[Steelerfan81]

Tickets for $40 on stub hub. That's almost half off. The demand for steeler tickets is down significantly. I sold a playoff ticket for $30 in 2007.

 

[cpollock]

Unemployment rates have been massaged into useless numbers. Long term unemployed, those that are with out benefits are not counted but they still have no jobs.

Yep that is the truth !!

 

[hardcore12]

well to tell you the truth I don't think that concessions make up that much of the revenue .. and definitely not $500,000 - 10,000 people are not going to spend $50 each on that kind of stuff on game day . I myself spend NOTHING -- $5 for a cup of coffee is ridiculous

I spend between 50 and 100 each game we go to. We hit about 4 a year ( due to living in Virginia ) 4 to 6 of us come each time and all of us spend that much. Of course we all have 5 to 8 beers and usually eat some dogs or something late in game.

Heck I don't think I've ever been to the game without spending 50 to 100 bucks

 

[steelbush]

10,000 empty seats on a primetime MNF game is pathetic and embarrassing in this day of the NFL. I hope the Rooney's are paying attention....Tomlin and Haley have fielded a ****** product for 3 years now.

 

[Troglodyte]

Dude, 8 beers during the game? Drink before the game and smuggle in some mini bottles. My favorite for cold weather games is Rumplleminz to go with hot chicolate.

 

[cpollock]

I spend between 50 and 100 each game we go to. We hit about 4 a year ( due to living in Virginia ) 4 to 6 of us come each time and all of us spend that much. Of course we all have 5 to 8 beers and usually eat some dogs or something late in game.

Heck I don't think I've ever been to the game without spending 50 to 100 bucks

Are a season ticket holder????