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9/11 Anniversary

Oh, by the way....this is what a 757 would do if it hit a building? Make this neat, small hole? How? The nose of a jumbo jet is relatively light weight, thin and weak. The nose would never create such a punch hole, however the engines would, but no holes were found from where the engines would have been. None. Again, no wings, tail, seats, luggage, bodies. As if a real plane crash would be missing those things.

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And the most heavily monitored building in the world, with the most security cameras, only came up with 5 frames of video? They would have had dozens of recorded shots of this.

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I thought wig was bad stealing our cookbooks. Pop. You, you ...your on a new level. Love it.



No No. I don't.
 
I had lunch with Bigfoot the other day. He told me that all 9-11 "fatalities" are living in The Villages in Florida. They like to play cornhole.


Oh. And his hair was perfect.
 
Good god you guys are still arguing this 9-11 conspiracy horseshit...hahahaahaha. Hot steel bends easy. Add weight from above floors...dominos.Very simple.Now go on with your lives. Besides too many people would be involved to keep a secret that big for that long...;)

I'm selling time share futures on Mars.
 
Not gonna get sucked into any conspiracy debates but the passengers on flight 93 did not have the capability of using their cell phones that SS already been debunked. 2001 cell phone technology did not allow this
 
Some Muslims got lucky that day. It's no more complicated than that.

You have not looked at the facts, in order to draw that conclusion. Where were all the images captured on airport vids? We what, had ONE video of all of the supposed hijackers? Right. They would have 50 shots of each hijacker if this went down as the govt. told us.

 
Not gonna get sucked into any conspiracy debates but the passengers on flight 93 did not have the capability of using their cell phones that SS already been debunked. 2001 cell phone technology did not allow this

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You have not looked at the facts, in order to draw that conclusion. Where were all the images captured on airport vids? We what, had ONE video of all of the supposed hijackers? Right. They would have 50 shots of each hijacker if this went down as the govt. told us.



Hey Corky, 2005 called and wants their thoroughly debunked fiction piece back. What's next, comic book sources?
 
First, more than just jet fuel burned, POOP. Further, that noted Rothschild-funded false-flag propagating source, Popular Mechanics, analyzed your claims and responded:

Claim: "We have been lied to," announces the Web site AttackOnAmerica.net. "The first lie was that the load of fuel from the aircraft was the cause of structural failure. No kerosene fire can burn hot enough to melt steel." The posting is entitled "Proof Of Controlled Demolition At The WTC."

FACT: Jet fuel burns at 800° to 1500°F, not hot enough to melt steel (2750°F). However, experts agree that for the towers to collapse, their steel frames didn't need to melt, they just had to lose some of their structural strength—and that required exposure to much less heat. "I have never seen melted steel in a building fire," says retired New York deputy fire chief Vincent Dunn, author of The Collapse Of Burning Buildings: A Guide To Fireground Safety. "But I've seen a lot of twisted, warped, bent and sagging steel. What happens is that the steel tries to expand at both ends, but when it can no longer expand, it sags and the surrounding concrete cracks."

"Steel loses about 50 percent of its strength at 1100°F," notes senior engineer Farid Alfawak-hiri of the American Institute of Steel Construction. "And at 1800° it is probably at less than 10 percent." NIST also believes that a great deal of the spray-on fireproofing insulation was likely knocked off the steel beams that were in the path of the crashing jets, leaving the metal more vulnerable to the heat.

But jet fuel wasn't the only thing burning, notes Forman Williams, a professor of engineering at the University of California, San Diego, and one of seven structural engineers and fire experts that PM consulted. He says that while the jet fuel was the catalyst for the WTC fires, the resulting inferno was intensified by the combustible material inside the buildings, including rugs, curtains, furniture and paper. NIST reports that pockets of fire hit 1832°F.

FACT: Once each tower began to collapse, the weight of all the floors above the collapsed zone bore down with pulverizing force on the highest intact floor. Unable to absorb the massive energy, that floor would fail, transmitting the forces to the floor below, allowing the collapse to progress downward through the building in a chain reaction. Engineers call the process "pancaking," and it does not require an explosion to begin, according to David Biggs, a structural engineer at Ryan-Biggs Associates and a member of the American Society of Civil Engineers (ASCE) team that worked on the FEMA report.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/a6384/debunking-911-myths-world-trade-center/

As to WTC 7, the world-banking and finance propaganda arm of the false-flag devotees (Popular Mechanics) noted:

Claim: Seven hours after the two towers fell, the 47-story WTC 7 collapsed. According to 911review.org: "The video clearly shows that it was not a collapse subsequent to a fire, but rather a controlled demolition: amongst the Internet investigators, the jury is in on this one."

FACT: Many conspiracy theorists point to FEMA's preliminary report, which said there was relatively light damage to WTC 7 prior to its collapse. With the benefit of more time and resources, NIST researchers now support the working hypothesis that WTC 7 was far more compromised by falling debris than the FEMA report indicated. "The most important thing we found was that there was, in fact, physical damage to the south face of building 7," NIST's Sunder tells PM. "On about a third of the face to the center and to the bottom—approximately 10 stories—about 25 percent of the depth of the building was scooped out." NIST also discovered previously undocumented damage to WTC 7's upper stories and its southwest corner.

NIST investigators believe a combination of intense fire and severe structural damage contributed to the collapse, though assigning the exact proportion requires more research. But NIST's analysis suggests the fall of WTC 7 was an example of "progressive collapse," a process in which the failure of parts of a structure ultimately creates strains that cause the entire building to come down. Videos of the fall of WTC 7 show cracks, or "kinks," in the building's facade just before the two penthouses disappeared into the structure, one after the other. The entire building fell in on itself, with the slumping east side of the structure pulling down the west side in a diagonal collapse.

According to NIST, there was one primary reason for the building's failure: In an unusual design, the columns near the visible kinks were carrying exceptionally large loads, roughly 2000 sq. ft. of floor area for each floor. "What our preliminary analysis has shown is that if you take out just one column on one of the lower floors," Sunder notes, "it could cause a vertical progression of collapse so that the entire section comes down."

There are two other possible contributing factors still under investigation: First, trusses on the fifth and seventh floors were designed to transfer loads from one set of columns to another. With columns on the south face apparently damaged, high stresses would likely have been communicated to columns on the building's other faces, thereby exceeding their load-bearing capacities.

Second, a fifth-floor fire burned for up to 7 hours. "There was no firefighting in WTC 7," Sunder says. Investigators believe the fire was fed by tanks of diesel fuel that many tenants used to run emergency generators. Most tanks throughout the building were fairly small, but a generator on the fifth floor was connected to a large tank in the basement via a pressurized line. Says Sunder: "Our current working hypothesis is that this pressurized line was supplying fuel [to the fire] for a long period of time."

WTC 7 might have withstood the physical damage it received, or the fire that burned for hours, but those combined factors—along with the building's unusual construction—were enough to set off the chain-reaction collapse.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/a6384/debunking-911-myths-world-trade-center/

Finally, the pictures of the plane crash ... were the other crashes used for comparison those involving a pilot intentionally flying the plane at a steep angle at high speed into the ground?? Because that is what happened on flight 93.

Oh yeah ... AND PASSENGERS ON THE PLANE REPORTED THAT THE MUZZIES HAD HIJACKED THE GODDAM PLANE, POOP. Were they "in on it" as well???

Some other material you should read:

http://www.news.com.au/world/six-re...bout-six-seconds/story-fndir2ev-1226717737311

http://townhall.com/columnists/mary...ther_myths_you_should_be_prepared_to_ debunk

The Internet allows ignorance to blossom as it has for the 9/11 Truth movement. To the naive their arguments can seem compelling but when you actually analyze their claims with hard science and facts, they completely fall apart. I was not only trained in computer information systems but also architecture. This is why absolutely nothing about any of the building collapses looked suspicious to me. I have nothing but contempt for the "truthers" who push propaganda on the naive. Their claims are just ignorant: "the WTC fires were not hot enough to melt steel" (they didn't have to be, just hot enough to weaken it's load bearing ability); "WTC 7 fell at free fall speed" (it didn't - it fell 40% slower); "WTC 7 was a controlled demolition" (zero evidence to support this); "Aircraft hitting buildings should leave a cartoon cutout" (hollow aluminum aircraft hitting high-strength, load-bearing perimeter steel columns will leave no such shape) and on and on. I literally laughed out loud the first time I saw "Loose Change" and that idiot Dylan Avery claimed pressure releases from the weight of the WTC towers collapsing on themselves were a controlled demolition. Only someone absolutely ignorant of structural design and engineering would believe these ridiculous claims. Unfortunately this appears to be a significant number of people which compelled me to write this.

http://www.populartechnology.net/2009/06/debunking-911-conspiracy-theories.html

The above, proves, without a doubt, that you are dumber than a box of rocks.

NO steel-framed buildings have EVER come down due to fire in the history of steel-framed buildings, ones that were in a RAGING fire for over 12 hours. 7 had a few small fires, randomly in the building. 7 was built to withstand hurricanes. For you to buy into this total bull **** fair tale just shows how dim you really are. You are one dumb ****, Shiny Shoes. And the saddest part is you don't even realize it.

 
Mr Shiney Shoes,

Explain all the explosions. You can't. You are an embarrassment.

 
Mr. Shiny Shoes,

What caused the flashes in all 3 of the buildings? Those are only seen in demolitions, period. Now take your shiny shoes and go back into hiding.

 
http://yournewswire.com/european-scientific-journal-concludes-911-was-a-controlled-demolition/

Shiny Shoes,

Explain why the BBC reported WTC 7 collapsed 20 minutes before it did.

Go ahead and try to explain that one.

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I love how you fall for "7 was brought down due to fires" when not a single scientific fact supports that. Not one. You have been completely embarrassed on this.

No steel-framed building has EVER been brought down by fire - fires FAR more colossal than 7 had - BEFORE or SINCE 911. (I am talking about the steel-frame itself, and all 3 building at WTC had the steel frame collapse.)

As you research this you, even at your slow level of thought, will realize how wrong you are and you will run away in embarrassment. It's coming. It happens every time.

 


Nothing in the official story addresses all the molten metal at the site. Nothing. Jet fuel doesn't burn hot enough to create molten steel.
 


No more snappy comebacks? Same thing happened that always does: You start off mocking, then look into it to refute it, but as you start digging you realize the official story is bull ****, so you turn tail and bail out because the truth of 911 is something you simply cannot take. It bothers you way too much to realize it was an inside job. You just can't think about it because it is just too disturbing. No who is the funny guy?
 
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Mr. Shiny Shoes,

What caused the flashes in all 3 of the buildings? Those are only seen in demolitions, period.

I cannot believe I wasted 2 minutes of my life looking at this video ... which shows NO FLASHES. Oh, and the arrows pointing out the non-flashes .... uhh, dumbfuck, did you not notice that these arrows want us to pay attention to - well, nothing - "something" that arises AFTER THE GODDAMN BUILDING COLLAPSES???

So the Rothschild world bankers developed a plot involving hundreds, if not thousands, that has remained secret for 15 years, where a large group of personnel planted explosives in the WTC, set to ... well, do nothing according to the video ... AFTER the ******* building collapses??? Is that the theory?

You know those freaks who insist they were abducted by aliens? All science and common sense proves their stories false, but hoo-boy, THEY BELIEVE. They have meetings, post YouTube videos, and discuss their anal probes.

You are one of those guys. You post YouTube videos as if they constitute anything more than a YouTube video. You see what you want to see and hear what you want to hear. Because ... YOU ARE A BELIEVER!!

So to sum up - POOP is an idiot who posts YouTube videos showing nothing, where even rudimentary analysis shows that the videos cannot possibly support the hypothesis presented, and who substitutes repetition for analysis.

Oh, and I thought Putin was releasing a video "proving" the conspiracy. What, he posted it on YouTube? So let me get another shine:

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Shiny Shoes,

Explain why the BBC reported WTC 7 collapsed 20 minutes before it did.

Go ahead and try to explain that one.

Well, her name IS Worldbanklover Rothschild, isn't it?

So she was "in on it," right? That must be your ******* explanation. Some random BBC broadcaster was "in" on the great conspiracy, right? RIGHT??

Look up Occamn's razor, dumbass. So once again:

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One take on the nut-job conspiracy theorists, in particular, their "hero," Dylan Avery:

Since Dylan's arguing that the government has no problem killing 3,000 innocent people, this raises the question: if his documentary is true, and we've established that the government has no ethical qualms about killing thousands of its own people, then why wouldn't the government kill Avery and his friends as well? What's a few more lives to them to ensure the success of this conspiracy?

Whatever reason it may be that the government supposedly orchestrated this conspiracy, it must have been worth it to them to cause so much suffering and loss of life. So if there's any truth to this, then you can bet your *** that the government wouldn't let a couple of pecker-neck chumps with a couple of Macs and too much time on their hands jeopardise their entire operation by letting this stupid video float around on the Internet. I can picture you morons emailing me now: "BUT MADOX, MAYBE DYLAN POSTED IT ON THE INTERNET BEFORE THE GOVERNMENT HAD A CHANCE TO REMOVE IT LOL." Yeah, too bad this rebuttal is inconsistent with the premise of Dylan's ****-festival of a movie: that the WTC was brought down "in a carefully planned and controlled demolition ... and it was pulled off with military precision." Now we're expected to believe that the same government that was able to commit the largest terrorist operation in history--with military precision no less--is suddenly too incompetent to sniff out and shut down a little website set up by some college losers within days, if not minutes of its creation? The US government has the capability to monitor every electronic communication made anywhere in the world, yet we're expected to believe that they wouldn't be able to nix this kid long before his video ever became popular?

I win. There is no conspiracy. Eat my ****, losers.


http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=911_morons
 
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Follow the money.


Wait, I thought the globalists were responsible for 9-11. Or the Rothschilds. Or the Illuminati. Or the Jooooos.

Now it's the Pentagon? Really, so those who volunteered to protect our nation - ******* VOLUNTEERED, ***-LICKER - decided to murder thousands of Americans to hide the fact that ... somebody else, no idea who, but some evil guy, probably affiliated with globalists and the Joooos ... did something with government funds meant for national defense?

Your idiotic, moronic, conflicting, crazy, nut-job, bizarre rants are getting dumber by the second, POOP. Just stop ... you have proved you are a bat-**** crazy ***-lick know-nothing, cheap, lying, no-good, rotten, four-flushing, low-life, snake-licking, dirt-eating, inbred, overstuffed, ignorant, blood-sucking, dog-kissing, brainless, dickless, hopeless, heartless, fat-***, bug-eyed, stiff-legged, spotty-lipped, worm-headed sack of monkey ****.

Your work here is done.
 
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