A hypothetical question for the group. Mitch T. related

[steelhurt]

I think if he does as steelhurt suggests the Steelers should trade him for 3 first rounders and nothing less

Please! I’m just happy we got Watson out of the city of Houston. Moms, your daughters are safe now in Houston. Guy is a real piece of work. Probably won’t even play this year. Nice job Cleveland!

 

[BamaSteeler52]

Cleveland just can't get out of their way... They are sitting there with the best QB they have had in like forever and he has embraced the city but they burn it to the ground for this mess. Not saying Baker is a HoF player but damn not terrible either.

 

[Coach]

I know, its going to be a long hot wait until training camp starts and there has been lots of pointless topics thrown around but I think this one has some merit.
What if Mitch who I think wins the starting job this summer, it is his to lose, but what if he plays lights out in this offense of Matt Canada and gets the Steelers to the playoffs and even makes the pro bowl? That's not so far fetched as Mitch did QB the Bears to two playoff appearances and even made a pro bowl so no reason to think that is unimaginable with the Steelers.
He's made for this offense since he's mobile and does his best work running out of the pocket and his arm is good enough, not great but good enough. I actually pushed for us to sign him after the season and was excited when the team inked him to a two year deal. He's got a good enough cast of skill players around him but like last year, the OL will be the big question mark.
So what happens if this unfolds into what I mentioned? Do the Steelers try and trade him for a premium draft pick since he would be a hot commodity if he balls out, or do they extend him and prolong Kenny Pickets advancement to starter even longer?
What are everyone's thoughts?

If he does that, he remains starter for the next year. Beyond that we'll see. The extra payoff team is the reason we made the playoff last year. So one a sense just making the playoffs itself won't do it. He has to win a game in the playoffs with Tomlin .

 

[Coach]

While I think our offensive success/failure will revolve around personnel use and play-calling, THIS would be a good problem to have. If Mitchell flourishes, we keep KP and it costs us $15 million/>$4mil pre year for 4 yrs. (about avg for a good backup QB. If KP isn't forced into playing and we extend Mitchell to 4 yrs, KP still won't have to cost us much more than a $5 million "prove-it" contract before we have to pay him starting $$ in year 5 PROVIDED someone else doesn't want to trade us a high draft pick in year 4 for KP.

If we start using the FB and TE more as well as having a less predictable running plan, it could happen?

Last year we used the TE in the passing game and running game a lot. As for the backs RB and FB no option on the team is better than Harris. The main difference will not be among the players at TE or the seldom used FB, but if we throw it mid to long range more often to our WR's.

 

[fedderone]

I sincerely hope Mitch balls out and lights it up..........because unfortunately, I think we F'd up taking Pickett/any QB this year.
This was not a QB draft, as evidenced by the rest of the league.
I sincerely hope I'm wrong about Pickett, but I don't think I will be.
Mitch is only 27.
So if he balls out, this year or back to back years, we can still get him under contract for a good 7-10 more years without having to worry about old age?
Yes please.

 

[FatsHolmes]

If he does that, he remains starter for the next year. Beyond that we'll see. The extra payoff team is the reason we made the playoff last year. So one a sense just making the playoffs itself won't do it. He has to win a game in the playoffs with Tomlin .

Why? The best quarterback to ever wear a Steeler uniform wasn't able to in recent years. Why would you expect Trubisky to be better?

 

[tapeANaspirin2it]

Are there any message parlors in PITTSBURGH ?


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in Pittsburgh they're called grinders

 

[topseed]

Why? The best quarterback to ever wear a Steeler uniform wasn't able to in recent years. Why would you expect Trubisky to be better?

The best quarterback to ever wear a Steeler uniform hasn't played very well in the playoffs in recent years. And as hard as this is to believe, Trubisky (with some crappy Bears teams) has a higher career postseason passer rating (92.5) than Ben does (86.7).

 

[FatsHolmes]

The best quarterback to ever wear a Steeler uniform hasn't played very well in the playoffs in recent years. And as hard as this is to believe, Trubisky (with some crappy Bears teams) has a higher career postseason passer rating (92.5) than Ben does (86.7).

You didn't answer my question. Why does a first-round out make Trubisky a failure? From every prognostication I've seen, this team won't even come close to making the playoffs. I disagree, but the general feeling in the national press is that the Steelers are likely going to be in 4th place in their division.

 

[Drink IRON City]

You didn't answer my question. Why does a first-round out make Trubisky a failure? From every prognostication I've seen, this team won't even come close to making the playoffs. I disagree, but the general feeling in the national press is that the Steelers are likely going to be in 4th place in their division.

Great, go with the nation talking heads, they know best.............

1) Continual nut hugging of the ravens.

2) Paper browns chapions

3) Last place in the division

4) It's Ben's fault

**** the talking heads, the STEELERS will not be bottom in their division and will contend for 1st. They will also squeak into the play offs (normal route).

Talking Heads have proven time and again over and over to be wrong and in my eyes as well as many, a very poor source of reliable information.



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[FatsHolmes]

Great, go with the nation talking heads, they know best.............

1) Continual nut hugging of the ravens.

2) Paper browns chapions

3) Last place in the division

4) It's Ben's fault

**** the talking heads, the STEELERS will not be bottom in their division and will contend for 1st. They will also squeak into the play offs (normal route).

Talking Heads have proven time and again over and over to be wrong and in my eyes as well as many, a very poor source of reliable information.



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Just using that to make my point. If you don't think that the Steelers making the playoffs won't be considered a huge success for Trubisky, I don't know what to tell you. By the way, notice the short phrase in my post "I disagree".

I will admit to being an optimist, but I think this team could be very good. I will not, however, limit my opinion of the season for the quarterback to them needing to win a playoff game, or even make the playoffs for that matter. There are too many questions in several areas (OL, WR, ILB) to pin that all on the quarterback. This offense is incredibly young. They will also be learning what is essentially a new offense - if what we hear about limitations of last season's offense due to Ben's immobility are true. If we see some growth in all facets of the offense through the year, I think that will be deemed a success for the quarterback.

 

[topseed]

You didn't answer my question. Why does a first-round out make Trubisky a failure? From every prognostication I've seen, this team won't even come close to making the playoffs. I disagree, but the general feeling in the national press is that the Steelers are likely going to be in 4th place in their division.

I'm not saying that a first-round out would make Trubisky a failure. I'm saying that although Ben was indeed "the best quarterback to ever wear a Steeler uniform," he hasn't performed at that same level in the playoffs for quite some time. So if Mitch provides better QB play in the postseason than they've had lately, then Pittsburgh has an improved chance at success. And if he doesn't, I'll be disappointed.

As far as prognosticators predicting a 4th place finish and nowhere near a playoff berth, I agree that they will be mistaken.

 

[steelhurt]

Let us get to training camp and the pre season and play the games to determine the outcome of the AFC North and how good the Steelers will be. Right now no one knows crap about who will make the playoffs or have a successful season. What guarantee is that that the Bengals will repeat their success or that Burrow will as well? There is none! Last year most every so called expert had the Browns in the SB and we all know how that ended up. Lets slow down and let things develop.

 

[Litos]

the improved inside part of the Oline will help the running game a lot, that by itself will make the Offense respectable again

 

[FatsHolmes]

the improved inside part of the Oline will help the running game a lot, that by itself will make the Offense respectable again

It should also allow the quarterback more than two seconds to get rid of the ball.

 

[Drink IRON City]

Just using that to make my point. If you don't think that the Steelers making the playoffs won't be considered a huge success for Trubisky, I don't know what to tell you. By the way, notice the short phrase in my post "I disagree".

I will admit to being an optimist, but I think this team could be very good. I will not, however, limit my opinion of the season for the quarterback to them needing to win a playoff game, or even make the playoffs for that matter. There are too many questions in several areas (OL, WR, ILB) to pin that all on the quarterback. This offense is incredibly young. They will also be learning what is essentially a new offense - if what we hear about limitations of last season's offense due to Ben's immobility are true. If we see some growth in all facets of the offense through the year, I think that will be deemed a success for the quarterback.

I hear yaz FastHolmes but also remeber that O'Canada called the entire offense (or so they say) last year. His offense was installed and that in itself helped make BEN look pedesrtian. Ben looked a hell of a lot different in the comeback parts of several games using an offense that was more tuned to him (part no huddle etc.).

O'Canada couldn't call his wet paper sack for his life and when you use up your 6 plays what do you have left???

This offense is young but they have had O'Cznada's offense instilled the entire season last year so that learning curve is lessened. The OL is re-vamped, especially the interior part which will make a ton of difference.

JuJu missed most of the season last year so with him gone who have we lost that wasn't here last year?? Draftees will replace anyone who got let go and actually will be an improveent.

If the BUSH actually participates and of course FA Jack that is an upgrade.

The QB is more the big question mark but hey, everyone says Mitch's feet are better suited for a O'Canada offense.

I'm putting no pressure on this team at all but I always expect excellence regarless of actual talent. Tomlin's excellence is "Non-Losing Season".

Should this team make the playoffs as they have as good a chance as anyone else in our division then CUDDOs to them and if by chance they actually


WIN A PLAYOFF GAME

WhoAly **** Batman, hats off to the entire team and Shades & staff.




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[DBS1970]

Who knows.

 

[jiminoh]

We'll see, but I have a feeling Mitch will be really good if the O-line holds up.

 

[Drink IRON City]

We'll see, but I have a feeling Mitch will be really good if the O-line holds up.

SAME here, Mich was drafted overall 2nd pick, there has to be a reason for that. ADD in the Steelers QB Coach and Mitch should be well under way to gain back some of that moxy needed to get picked 2nd overall.


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[Confluence]

SAME here, Mich was drafted overall 2nd pick, there has to be a reason for that. ADD in the Steelers QB Coach and Mitch should be well under way to gain back some of that moxy needed to get picked 2nd overall.


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So was Ryan Leaf, lol.

Go Mitch!!

 

[stuntmanmike]

If Ben was in camp hed have a hard time beating out Pickett me thinks. Pickett has an ace in the hole that's hard to beat… accuracy. Ben had some great traits but throwing an accurate pass, consistently, wasn’t one of them. Same with the Carolina flash. Pickett will come in and right away start hitting these young blood receivers in the numbers and a new era will start, the Pickett and Pickens show. unless we totall whiffed on kenny… he starts.

 

[FatsHolmes]

If Ben was in camp hed have a hard time beating out Pickett me thinks. Pickett has an ace in the hole that's hard to beat… accuracy. Ben had some great traits but throwing an accurate pass, consistently, wasn’t one of them. Same with the Carolina flash. Pickett will come in and right away start hitting these young blood receivers in the numbers and a new era will start, the Pickett and Pickens show. unless we totall whiffed on kenny… he starts.

We'll see about Pickett's accuracy when he's facing an NFL defense. When he has 300 pound DLs that can run just as fast as he can coming at him, and when the term "open" has an entirely different definition.

 

[Drink IRON City]

So was Ryan Leaf, lol.

Go Mitch!!

I hear yaz Confluence but we have 4 year Mitch as opposed to rookie Ryan. There is a huge difference in these two players regardless of NFL experience.

If Mitch implodes we have Pickett and Mason currently.



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