Kordell Stewart is offended by this statement. Now bend over and take your punishment like a man.
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Kordell Stewart is offended by this statement. Now bend over and take your punishment like a man.
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It isn't a bad thing because it isn't a part of rebuilding. They weren't rebuilding and anybody that's been around this team for a week would know better than to say that. Again if they were rebuilding they would have taken the 3rd round pick and let Sanders leave. They wouldn't have wasted millions of dollars on Worilds and re-working the contracts of others and keeping an aged defense.
The only reason this guy is talking about rebuilding is because of their record the past few years and because he is giving Colbert cover.
I got your point man .. I was just "tugging the bulls horns" so to speak. I gotta ask, are you this ... literal/serious in real life?
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I'm actually a very laid back, comical and playful in person.
This I would pay money to see
I don't know how old you are, and if you are younger than a certain age, this will fly right over your head ... However, I pictured the above line being delivered by Felix Unger.
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I just turned 45 but I had to look up Unger. I recognized him but didn't watch the odd couple. I'm actually more like Bill Burr than Unger. I even have the hairline.
Well Unger fits your online persona to a tee. Lol. Wish we could all meet in person watch a game get to know the real person behind the screen name. Sometimes we all take this board too seriously.
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If you are just having Laundry stand on the sidelines, with his skill set, then BRING in Tebow. His skill set is slightly better than Laundry's. It's the will to win is where Tebow has Laundry totally beat. Plus Tim can play an alternate position. NOT saying bring him in at all cost, but I bet his pay would be near equal to Laundry's and yet we actually have an option to play him.
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The last time he started an NFL game he beat us in the playoffs and put up over 300 yards in the air.
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That would be good. My guess is we'd get along just fine.
My online persona doesn't match my real one if Unger is who I come across as. He's much more thoughtful than I am...
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RG3 is and has always been a joke. Good for the deadskins and that lame *** owner. We don't want him and sure as hell don't need him. Let him go to Cleveland and finally fade away. One of these days these teams are going to get smart about these so called can't miss QB's coming out of college where there biggest attribute is a run first mentality. That stuff does not work in the NFL. If I'm drafting a franchise QB with one of the top three or four picks, then I want someone who is cerebral and won't have problems reading defenses, Someone who can stand n the pocket and not get happy feet, and someone that has leadership abilities. RG3 has none of the above,
Well I think that was a big part of the problem was trying to keep the aging defense together when we realized with Ben we could win super bowls.
So it was never a complete tear down and rebuild and then they just didn't have a choice.
WOODLEY killed us. Ziggy Hood killed us. Because they had to go back and 're draft those same positions again.
The dead . Money Wood cost them hurt bad. KEENEN LEWISS LEAVING.
They were drafting out of necessity trying to get the line fixed in a hurry. DMECASTRO injury set him back a year.
Gilbert and Adams , well we all know about that.
SPENCE getting . Knee wasted rookie year
Shamarko not developing. Etc.
But that period we lost . A lot of veterans who used to coach the young guys on how to be a Steelers.
So we seen a bunch of new faces come and go and the older guys were Troy & Ben. Not known as vocal leaders.
We just had to many holes to fill and the missed late rounds where we used to score good depth hasn't been there.
That being said through all that. We have the best offense we have seen since the seventies.
The defense looks like it has a few good young players who will be the future. SHAZIER. Dupree. Tuitt, etc.
A little depth at Ilb again. We can go DB' s in the draft hopefully this year and try and score something good.
We did just flip this defense over and got a lot youngeg over night. Now it's important to make good good moves and score in the draft.
Deep in the draft too. The offense gets a little better this year and we could be a contender next year and year after.
That's my dream at least. Plus my Lunesta is kicked in and I may not know what the he'll I am saying.
So it was never a complete tear down and rebuild and then they just didn't have a choice.
WOODLEY killed us. Ziggy Hood killed us. Because they had to go back and 're draft those same positions again.
The dead . Money Wood cost them hurt bad. KEENEN LEWISS LEAVING.
They were drafting out of necessity trying to get the line fixed in a hurry. DMECASTRO injury set him back a year.
Gilbert and Adams , well we all know about that.
SPENCE getting . Knee wasted rookie year
Shamarko not developing. Etc.
But that period we lost . A lot of veterans who used to coach the young guys on how to be a Steelers.
So we seen a bunch of new faces come and go and the older guys were Troy & Ben. Not known as vocal leaders.
We just had to many holes to fill and the missed late rounds where we used to score good depth hasn't been there.
That being said through all that. We have the best offense we have seen since the seventies.
The defense looks like it has a few good young players who will be the future. SHAZIER. Dupree. Tuitt, etc.
A little depth at Ilb again. We can go DB' s in the draft hopefully this year and try and score something good.
We did just flip this defense over and got a lot youngeg over night. Now it's important to make good good moves and score in the draft.
Deep in the draft too. The offense gets a little better this year and we could be a contender next year and year after.
That's my dream at least. Plus my Lunesta is kicked in and I may not know what the he'll I am saying.
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"D.) It's just weird to see a Steeler's defense look so weak, and it makes people irrationally angry (I'm guilty of this one myself from time to time.)"
In today's NFL, I'll take a high octane offense over "tough" defense any day and twice on Sundays!!!! Have we forgotten all fines and suspensions our defense suffered just a few years ago? Harrison and Clark were Goodell targets week after week. How many PI calls has our defense receive against the Ravens and Patriots alone during that era?? Just go back to the Timmons personal foul penalty vs. Boldin who wasn't technically down or the call on the defenseless WR we received on a clean hit to the back of the TE, just last week.
Give me a HOF QB, unstoppable WR, & an elite does everything RB and rack up yards and scores all game long. Look I loved when we could be the intimidating defense, but that was under the old NFL rules. I'm giddy knowing we have the capability to look like an arena football team, passing all over the field and we have a QB not throwing interceptions at a high rate nor taking a lot of sacks.
In today's NFL, I'll take a high octane offense over "tough" defense any day and twice on Sundays!!!! Have we forgotten all fines and suspensions our defense suffered just a few years ago? Harrison and Clark were Goodell targets week after week. How many PI calls has our defense receive against the Ravens and Patriots alone during that era?? Just go back to the Timmons personal foul penalty vs. Boldin who wasn't technically down or the call on the defenseless WR we received on a clean hit to the back of the TE, just last week.
Give me a HOF QB, unstoppable WR, & an elite does everything RB and rack up yards and scores all game long. Look I loved when we could be the intimidating defense, but that was under the old NFL rules. I'm giddy knowing we have the capability to look like an arena football team, passing all over the field and we have a QB not throwing interceptions at a high rate nor taking a lot of sacks.
Like I said elsewhere about Johnny Football, running QB's can work in college ball. Running QB's in the NFL get broke in half.
In college ball 98.4% of the people you're playing against are not good enough to get to the NFL. In the NFL you're playing against the other 1.6% who are that good.
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It was just a thought.
The Steelers are going to have to take a gamble or two if they want a capable QB ready to go post Roethlisberger.
The 49ers took a huge gamble trading for who was considered a huge bust in Steve Young to eventually replace Joe Montana.
I'm not saying I have any reasonable expectation of the same happening with Griffin, but where would the risk be?
Given the Steelers brought in Prince Puppy Slayer and have kept Landry around, do not pretend you'd be shocked if the Steelers acquired Griffin.
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This is pretty much all you need to know about why we wouldn't trade for Griffin. Forget Vick, forget Jones, forget skill level. Griffin is GUARANTEED $16m in 2016. There's no reworking that, he's not going to renegotiate down to vet min (what Vick is playing for), and he's not going to come in around what Jones is playing for (585k this year 675k next year). Lets also not forget that Griffin is 25, by the time Ben retires, you're looking at Griffin being near 30...and IF, and that's a BIG IF, he were to somehow put it all together, we'd be looking for a replacement AGAIN within 5-6 years.
There will be plenty of QB's coming out of college with more potential than RG3, with less baggage too, in the next 3-5 years. I don't start looking for Ben's replacement for another 2 years AT LEAST. Rogers sat for 3 years before taking over for Favre, and in this day and age, that is RARE. But that is the dream scenario that the Steelers would LOVE to see happen. A top 5 talent drop all the way to the bottom of the first round and sit for a few years to learn the game without being thrown to the wolves immediately. I don't see it happening, not when you have the likes of Jake Locker, Christian Ponder, and Blaine Gabbert getting drafted in the first round by QB hungry teams. Lets also remember that Manziel and Weedon were also first round picks.
And using Steve Young as an example might have worked in the early 2000's, but when was the last time a teams cast aside QB was able to thrive in a new system on another team?
This is pretty much all you need to know about why we wouldn't trade for Griffin. Forget Vick, forget Jones, forget skill level. Griffin is GUARANTEED $16m in 2016. There's no reworking that, he's not going to renegotiate down to vet min (what Vick is playing for), and he's not going to come in around what Jones is playing for (585k this year 675k next year). Lets also not forget that Griffin is 25, by the time Ben retires, you're looking at Griffin being near 30...and IF, and that's a BIG IF, he were to somehow put it all together, we'd be looking for a replacement AGAIN within 5-6 years.
There will be plenty of QB's coming out of college with more potential than RG3, with less baggage too, in the next 3-5 years. I don't start looking for Ben's replacement for another 2 years AT LEAST. Rogers sat for 3 years before taking over for Favre, and in this day and age, that is RARE. But that is the dream scenario that the Steelers would LOVE to see happen. A top 5 talent drop all the way to the bottom of the first round and sit for a few years to learn the game without being thrown to the wolves immediately. I don't see it happening, not when you have the likes of Jake Locker, Christian Ponder, and Blaine Gabbert getting drafted in the first round by QB hungry teams. Lets also remember that Manziel and Weedon were also first round picks.
And using Steve Young as an example might have worked in the early 2000's, but when was the last time a teams cast aside QB was able to thrive in a new system on another team?
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His contract is restrictive, no doubt, but I think there's a way for a team to spread that thing out enough to satisfy both parties: a team with a 30-something QB that still believes in his upside and is willing to pay him 3-5mil a year to play a backup role, while learning to reverse the bad habits he developed in Washington. Like I said, there's a risk, but sometimes they need to be taken.
There will no doubt be quality QB prospects over the next several years, but how confident are you that the Steelers will ever get a legit shot at one with Roethlisberger guaranteeing them 8+ wins every year? You cite Rodgers, but that was a Marino-like draft day fall. You really want to hinge the Steelers future QB prospects on that kind of luck?
At his age, Roethlisberger is an injury away from being next to done. Everyone wants to point to Peyton and Brady as the example, but they're the exception. Drew Brees is a few years younger and he is noticeably declining.
Also, due to his style of play, Roethlisberger's body has endured much more punishment than the above players, not to mention the near fatal motor cycle accident and heavy drinking earlier on.
Personally, I reasonably expect two more great seasons from Ben and after that, we're getting by on borrowed time. Griffin probably isn't the answer, but they need to start thinking outside the box to similar extent if they want any chance of being competitive once Ben moves on.
His contract is restrictive, no doubt, but I think there's a way for a team to spread that thing out enough to satisfy both parties: a team with a 30-something QB that still believes in his upside and is willing to pay him 3-5mil a year to play a backup role, while learning to reverse the bad habits he developed in Washington. Like I said, there's a risk, but sometimes they need to be taken.
There will no doubt be quality QB prospects over the next several years, but how confident are you that the Steelers will ever get a legit shot at one with Roethlisberger guaranteeing them 8+ wins every year? You cite Rodgers, but that was a Marino-like draft day fall. You really want to hinge the Steelers future QB prospects on that kind of luck?
At his age, Roethlisberger is an injury away from being next to done. Everyone wants to point to Peyton and Brady as the example, but they're the exception. Drew Brees is a few years younger and he is noticeably declining.
Also, due to his style of play, Roethlisberger's body has endured much more punishment than the above players, not to mention the near fatal motor cycle accident and heavy drinking earlier on.
Personally, I reasonably expect two more great seasons from Ben and after that, we're getting by on borrowed time. Griffin probably isn't the answer, but they need to start thinking outside the box to similar extent if they want any chance of being competitive once Ben moves on.
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I didn't cite the Rogers example as the go to scenario, if you had actually read what I wrote you would see that. That is a dream scenario, one that likely won't happen again. I'm also getting tired of the "Ben's body is older because of the hits" excuse. Elway took abuse like Ben did, played until he was 38. Favre took abuse for 20 years, didn't miss a game until his final year in the league. Ben has missed time, but he hasn't recently. He hasn't been taking the big hits recently either because of the new offense and the weapons he has around him. And despite all the abuse Ben has taken, he keeps getting better, and he has shown no signs of any of his past injuries causing any problems for him. It's a pointless argument. ANY NFL player is one hit away from never playing again, but assuming that Ben is at a greater risk is dumb.
Back to Griffin, what in his short NFL career has pointed to him accepting less money per year to be a back up to anyone? He's guaranteed $16m in 2016 alone, whether he's in the NFL or not, he gets that $16m. And there is NOTHING in his game that shows he's anything more than a gimmick college QB. As he ages, his one positive, his legs, will fade with what little talent he has. Someone might take a flier on him, but it won't be the Steelers... He doesn't have the skillset to be an NFL QB.
Back to Griffin, what in his short NFL career has pointed to him accepting less money per year to be a back up to anyone? He's guaranteed $16m in 2016 alone, whether he's in the NFL or not, he gets that $16m. And there is NOTHING in his game that shows he's anything more than a gimmick college QB. As he ages, his one positive, his legs, will fade with what little talent he has. Someone might take a flier on him, but it won't be the Steelers... He doesn't have the skillset to be an NFL QB.
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