Al Gore ... an inconvenient truth to his lies.

[CharlesDavenport]

I also see a cause and effect relationship. It's between a CONservative "think tank"(CFACT) and its two primary donors: Exxon Mobile and the Koch Bros..............

Funny how Trumptards can see "fake news" everywhere, now that it's really fake, and right under their nose they are blind to it.

So the readings were not deleted?

 

[Elfiero]

Stupid lazy ***** fails to call out energy hog and finger-wagger, Algore, a lying, self-serving scumbag.

Uses enough energy in one month to power three average American households for a year???

Nothing to see here, nothing to see.

First of all turd burglar: Al Gore does not represent climate science, nor do I give a **** what Al Gore uses for electricity.

Neither of those things invalidate AGW theory. And if I wanted to take this thing farther I would mention that the analysis is flawed from the get go since it compares Gore's house to the average american home,

when it should be compared to similar size homes.......tricky, but not tricky enough.

Further Gore has mentioned before that he uses carbon offsets, to what degree? I don't know.

And like I said; I don't care. What Al Gore does or believes has no bearing on the overwhelming evidence in support of AGW.

 

[Elfiero]

So the readings were not deleted?

Ahhhh.....no....

http://theconversation.com/no-the-bureau-of-meteorology-is-not-fiddling-its-weather-data-31009

This is an old game the front groups play to create the illusion of corruption and or incompetence.

They've been doing it since the tobacco hearing days ,and when Americans finally caught on to the fact that "anti-consensus" scientists and doctors were being paid by the tobacco industry to provide "science" showing tobacco did not cause cancer, the jig was up.

But hey those very same groups found a new client in the fossil fuel industry: different product, same game.

 

[CharlesDavenport]

Ahhhh.....no....

http://theconversation.com/no-the-bureau-of-meteorology-is-not-fiddling-its-weather-data-31009

This is an old game the front groups play to create the illusion of corruption and or incompetence.

They've been doing it since the tobacco hearing days ,and when Americans finally caught on to the fact that "anti-consensus" scientists and doctors were being paid by the tobacco industry to provide "science" showing tobacco did not cause cancer, the jig was up.

But hey those very same groups found a new client in the fossil fuel industry: different product, same game.

LOL! "Data homogenisation"

They deleted data you dumbfuck.

 

[Stewey]

Scientist calls out climate change fraud.

 

[CharlesDavenport]

That is ******* great, Stewey.

 

[Elfiero]

LOL! "Data homogenisation"

They deleted data you dumbfuck.

okaaaaaaayyyyyy..........

Do you own a dictionary, or can you access one online?

 

[CharlesDavenport]

okaaaaaaayyyyyy..........

Do you own a dictionary, or can you access one online?

More awesome "science" from the warmists. They made up a term for data manipulation and put if forward as its own validation. This bullshido is coming to light -

Marohasy says the clearly *stated intent of homogenisation is to correct for changes in equipment, siting, and/or other factors that conceivably can introduce non-*climatic factors into the temperature record.

“The bureau, however, is applying the algorithms subjectively and without supporting metadata, in such a way that the temperature record is completely altered, despite the absence of evidence that there were any changes in siting, equipment, or any other factor which could have conceivably introduced a non*-climatic discontinuity,’’ she says.

Marohasy says the “corruption” of the data was of no practical consequence to climate scientists at BoM because they do not use historical data for forecasting either rainfall or temperature — they use simulation models that attempt to recreate the climate based on assumed physical *processes.

But she says the remodelling is “of considerable political value to them, because the remodelled data better accords with the theory of anthropogenic global warming’’.

Marohasy presented a paper on her research to the Sydney Institute earlier this year. She has since expanded the number of physical temperature records analysed and says the results have only added weight to her concerns.

At Amberley, in Queensland, temperatures have been collected at the same well-maintained site within the perimeter of the air force base since 1941.

But through the homogenisation process BoM has changed what was a cooling trend in the minimum temperature of 1.0C per century into a warming trend of 2.5C per century.

“Homogenisation has not resulted in some small change to the data set, but rather a change in the temperature trend from one of cooling to dramatic warming,’’ Marohasy says.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...s/news-story/562edd127dc9ef94692b8e0dd0bbcd54

 

[CharlesDavenport]

I'm fascinated by this data homogenization crap. This course came up in a search. It's beautiful.

Teacher input: Good scientists do not blindly accept raw data. Data must undergo quality control analyses that adjust data for documented changes known to create changes unrelated to climate change. After accounting for artificial inhomogeneities, scientists adjust the data to create what they believe is a more realistic regional trend.

Yes, good scientists don't accept raw data. They need to adjust it according to the assumptions of the day before analyzing it. You know, accounting for "artificial inhomogeneities".

http://landscapesandcycles.net/temperature-homogenization-activity.html

 

[SteelChip]

 

[Superman]

I dont think anyone here will argue that the planet we live on is constantly going through changes. we have zero conclusive proof that this change isnt natural.

it's not as if we have data from the beginning of the big bang to now that would allow us to determine that the alt-right, heterosexual, white, conservative leaning male in his modest 2,000 sq ft home kept at 74 degrees year round and keeps his refrigerator plugged in 24/7 is 100% responsible for all of global warming on the planet when considering the size of the planet and the vast global warming and cooling history of the planet.

Likewise, we must also assume that man has more of an effect on the planet than what is going on under the surface as well as any solar flares we experience. We should also neglect to account for the fact that the planet and our solar system is constantly moving through space and very well could be entering/exiting fields of cosmic matter we cannot detect with current technology, but could very easily work with internal core temperatures that would have an effect on the external portion of the planet.

but, by god, we must have legislation to funnel money to agw idiots.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

And in other news....

Get ready for the fall...in temperature! Unseasonably chilly August ahead for the eastern two-thirds of the US with 60F lows lasting up to TWO WEEKS

Cooler temperatures are predicted to span much of the eastern part of the United States throughout the month of August.

The first of several spells of below-average temperatures saw shorts exchanged for sweaters across the east of the country over the weekend, with lows of 60F in Chicago and Green Bay on Friday.

Those overnight lows are expected to persist in lands east of the Rockies for the next two weeks, with daytime highs ranging from the upper 70s to the low 80s, according to Weather.com.

Experts say a southward dip in the jet stream is causing the cooling effect.

This pattern will continue into the second week of August with below-average temperatures affecting much of the East Coast, Midwest, and some of the South.
The Weather Channel reports that Sunday morning saw record breaking lows in Missouri, Kentucky, Tennessee and Indiana.

Another cold front is also expected to bring thunderstorms and showers through the central and eastern states early this week.

 

[Steeltime]

when it should be compared to similar size homes.......tricky, but not tricky enough.

(1) Comparing to average American homes makes a great deal of sense, since Algore insists that America's use of petroleum fuels is leading directly to climate change that will kill us all. If he has a home 5x larger than the average American home, he has some 'splainin to do given his bleating about petroleum use and the death of us all.

(2) Oh, and as usual, you were too lazy to read the cited material. That is standard practice for you - to pontificate without bothering to get the facts. The same researcher compared Gore's energy use to homes of a similar size (8,000 to 10,000 square feet), and guess what, asslick? Gore uses 6 to 10 times what homeowners of similar size homes use. Checkmate ... *****.

(3) Finally, of course Gore's energy use matters. The clown insists that our energy use will kill us all and melt the polar caps ... and then uses 22 times the energy of an average family of four while living by himself. Like lying ******* named elfiePolo, he is great at lecturing others what to do, but juuuust cannot seem to follow his own advice.

(4) Dude is divorced, and his children are grown and moved on. Why the hell does he need a 10,000 square foot mansion given his "Ohhh, petroleum use is DEATH!!" screeching?

Go ahead, *****, start explaining.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

(1) Comparing to average American homes makes a great deal of sense, since Algore insists that America's use of petroleum fuels is leading directly to climate change that will kill us all. If he has a home 5x larger than the average American home, he has some 'splainin to do given his bleating about petroleum use and the death of us all.

(2) Oh, and as usual, you were too lazy to read the cited material. That is standard practice for you - to pontificate without bothering to get the facts. The same researcher compared Gore's energy use to homes of a similar size (8,000 to 10,000 square feet), and guess what, asslick? Gore uses 6 to 10 times what homeowners of similar size homes use. Checkmate ... *****.

(3) Finally, of course Gore's energy use matters. The clown insists that our energy use will kill us all and melt the polar caps ... and then uses 22 times the energy of an average family of four while living by himself. Like lying ******* named elfiePolo, he is great at lecturing others what to do, but juuuust cannot seem to follow his own advice.

(4) Dude is divorced, and his children are grown and moved on. Why the hell does he need a 10,000 square foot mansion given his "Ohhh, petroleum use is DEATH!!" screeching?

Go ahead, *****, start explaining.

 

[Stewey]

Scientist calls out climate change fraud.

Pssst Elfie, did you happen to miss this one?

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Pssst Elfie, did you happen to miss this one?

Her/His/Its Soros-check is about to run out. Gets paid by the post. Can't be bothered to answer facts when paid goal is to stir up ****.

 

[Spike]

Crack the whip - the animals have to learn



USDA office told to use 'weather extremes' instead of 'climate change'

Officials at a U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) office told staffers to avoid the term “climate change” in their communications and use language like “weather extremes” instead, The Guardian reported Monday.

According to emails obtained by The Guardian, officials told staffers in the USDA’s Natural Resources Conservation Service (NRCS) to change the way they discuss climate change in their work.

According to the office, climate change would become “weather extremes.” Climate change adaptation should instead be “resilience to weather,” and efforts to “reduce greenhouse gases” should instead be deemed as ways to “build soil organic matter, increase nutrient use efficiency.”

“We won’t change the modeling, just how we talk about it,” Bianca Moebius-Clune, the NRCS’s director of soil health, wrote in an email to staff on Feb. 16, according to the report. Moebius-Clune said the new language was given to her to pass on to staff.

http://thehill.com/policy/energy-en...se-weather-extremes-instead-of-climate-change

 

[BAS]

Crack the whip - the animals have to learn



USDA office told to use 'weather extremes' instead of 'climate change'

Officials at a U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) office told staffers to avoid the term “climate change” in their communications and use language like “weather extremes” instead, The Guardian reported Monday.

According to emails obtained by The Guardian, officials told staffers in the USDA’s Natural Resources Conservation Service (NRCS) to change the way they discuss climate change in their work.

According to the office, climate change would become “weather extremes.” Climate change adaptation should instead be “resilience to weather,” and efforts to “reduce greenhouse gases” should instead be deemed as ways to “build soil organic matter, increase nutrient use efficiency.”

“We won’t change the modeling, just how we talk about it,” Bianca Moebius-Clune, the NRCS’s director of soil health, wrote in an email to staff on Feb. 16, according to the report. Moebius-Clune said the new language was given to her to pass on to staff.

http://thehill.com/policy/energy-en...se-weather-extremes-instead-of-climate-change

Warner Brothers is ahead of the curve.

 

[Elfiero]

(1) Comparing to average American homes makes a great deal of sense, since Algore insists that America's use of petroleum fuels is leading directly to climate change that will kill us all. If he has a home 5x larger than the average American home, he has some 'splainin to do given his bleating about petroleum use and the death of us all.

(2) Oh, and as usual, you were too lazy to read the cited material. That is standard practice for you - to pontificate without bothering to get the facts. The same researcher compared Gore's energy use to homes of a similar size (8,000 to 10,000 square feet), and guess what, asslick? Gore uses 6 to 10 times what homeowners of similar size homes use. Checkmate ... *****.

(3) Finally, of course Gore's energy use matters. The clown insists that our energy use will kill us all and melt the polar caps ... and then uses 22 times the energy of an average family of four while living by himself. Like lying ******* named elfiePolo, he is great at lecturing others what to do, but juuuust cannot seem to follow his own advice.

(4) Dude is divorced, and his children are grown and moved on. Why the hell does he need a 10,000 square foot mansion given his "Ohhh, petroleum use is DEATH!!" screeching?

Go ahead, *****, start explaining.

Again everything you are babbling about is nonsense.

Like I said he uses carbon offsets, and more importantly that home is a business office used by the Gore organization, in other words turd burglar; there are people working there whether Gore is home or not. The comparisions to "the average american home" are invalid.

And like I said before, but your tiny agenda driven brain won't process; what Al Gore does or doesn't do in his own life has no bearing on climate science.

 

[Elfiero]

Her/His/Its Soros-check is about to run out. Gets paid by the post. Can't be bothered to answer facts when paid goal is to stir up ****.

Your "side" doesn't have any facts....nice hats though...

 

[Superman]

Again everything you are babbling about is nonsense.

Like I said he uses carbon offsets, and more importantly that home is a business office used by the Gore organization, in other words turd burglar; there are people working there whether Gore is home or not. The comparisions to "the average american home" are invalid.

And like I said before, but your tiny agenda driven brain won't process; what Al Gore does or doesn't do in his own life has no bearing on climate science.

Steeltime responded to what you asked for. Now you're moving the goal posts.

see, it's simple-minded ***** like you who have caused so much derision in this country. You ask for validation of something. proof is given in spades. So you c*u*n*t*splain why this is allowable since you've got a penchance of defending anything (D) related and then try to change the topic.

 

[Spike]

Same bullshit, different year


Washington DC, NYC will be underwater by 2000!

 

[Elfiero]

Steeltime responded to what you asked for. Now you're moving the goal posts.

see, it's simple-minded ***** like you who have caused so much derision in this country. You ask for validation of something. proof is given in spades. So you c*u*n*t*splain why this is allowable since you've got a penchance of defending anything (D) related and then try to change the topic.

I didn't move any goal posts. Steeltime's argument is based on non factual information.

1. Comparing it to the average american home is wrong since its square footage is significantly more.

2. Point 1 is moot anyway because it's also a business office with people working in it even when Gore is not there.

The end.

 

[Superman]

I didn't move any goal posts. Steeltime's argument is based on non factual information.

1. Comparing it to the average american home is wrong since its square footage is significantly more.

2. Point 1 is moot anyway because it's also a business office with people working in it even when Gore is not there.

The end.

he. compared. it. to. similar. sized. homes.
then YOU stated that it didnt make a difference.

and now you want to say that this mansion... a ******* mansion ... is a "business office"?!?

no wonder you slurped the Hillary Kool Aid.

moron.

 

[Elfiero]

Same bullshit, different year


Washington DC, NYC will be underwater by 2000!

That's not the claim being made. It says CO2 levels in the year 2000 would be 25% more than current levels(1969).

The sea level rise is mentioned in the next sentence as a future consequence NOT that it would happen in 2000.

But hey, keep being stupid. Go with your strengths I like to say.