As usual no respect from networks.

[ZonaBurgh]

Don't really care, but will add that Brady beat up the powerful 3-5 Bears. Impressive!

 

[topseed]

I give Simms **** cause he flat out sucks as an analyst. As for what he and the other talking heads say or don't say about the Steelers during the week, I really don't care.

Yeah. What would Phil Simms possibly know about the game of football?

 

[Drink IRON City]

Yeah. What would Phil Simms possibly know about the game of football?

Its not what he knows about football, that most here question. It's how ill prepared he is as to the two teams he is announcing for. I've heard him call STEELERS players names, that weren't even on the roster. He is so biased at times, instead of talking about how good a play the STEELERS guy made, he talks about what the other player did wrong. Then when the role is reversed, he talks about how good the opposing player did. Kapish????



Salute the nation

 

[Steel G]

Yeah. What would Phil Simms possibly know about the game of football?

The man will sometimes stop his thoughts mid sentence because he has no clue either on what he's trying to say or how to formulate it into a sentence. And that's just his technical short comings. 99% of the time he will never question an official's call, almost always agrees with them even when they're wrong. Plus, he plays favorites and will ride them until it's almost certain that they can't win the game and at that point, he'll finally talk up the other team. And just his goofy diction drives me up the wall, "Well, ya know, we talked to Big Ben yesterday and he goes, 'Well, I'd love to run the no huddle.' and I go, 'Well, why don't you.' And he goes, well, it ain't always that easy.' And I go, 'yeah, these players today...they're so big, so fast, and you know....'

 

[Wingman]

Yeah. What would Phil Simms possibly know about the game of football?

Go ahead and tell me it should not take too long.

 

[topseed]

Its not what he knows about football, that most here question. It's how ill prepared he is as to the two teams he is announcing for. I've heard him call STEELERS players names, that weren't even on the roster. He is so biased at times, instead of talking about how good a play the STEELERS guy made, he talks about what the other player did wrong. Then when the role is reversed, he talks about how good the opposing player did. Kapish????



Salute the nation

All annoucers make some player-name mistakes. Give me a break with the anti-Steeler bias bullshit. He was all over Ben's jock Sunday (as well he should have been), like he is with just about every other quarterback.

 

[topseed]

The man will sometimes stop his thoughts mid sentence because he has no clue either on what he's trying to say or how to formulate it into a sentence. And that's just his technical short comings. 99% of the time he will never question an official's call, almost always agrees with them even when they're wrong. Plus, he plays favorites and will ride them until it's almost certain that they can't win the game and at that point, he'll finally talk up the other team. And just his goofy diction drives me up the wall, "Well, ya know, we talked to Big Ben yesterday and he goes, 'Well, I'd love to run the no huddle.' and I go, 'Well, why don't you.' And he goes, well, it ain't always that easy.' And I go, 'yeah, these players today...they're so big, so fast, and you know....'

Yeah, but I love it when he says "eem" instead of "him."

 

[topseed]

Go ahead and tell me it should not take too long.

I'm sorry. You must have much more knowledge about the game than a guy who played quarterback proficiently at the highest level for 14 years.

 

[Omar10213245]

The man will sometimes stop his thoughts mid sentence because he has no clue either on what he's trying to say or how to formulate it into a sentence. And that's just his technical short comings. 99% of the time he will never question an official's call, almost always agrees with them even when they're wrong. Plus, he plays favorites and will ride them until it's almost certain that they can't win the game and at that point, he'll finally talk up the other team. And just his goofy diction drives me up the wall, "Well, ya know, we talked to Big Ben yesterday and he goes, 'Well, I'd love to run the no huddle.' and I go, 'Well, why don't you.' And he goes, well, it ain't always that easy.' And I go, 'yeah, these players today...they're so big, so fast, and you know....'

Lol yeah. I dont dislike Simms, but I will admit that he's not one would call the "ideal orator", his voice gets old quick. Speaking of NY Giants qb's, does anyone else hear a little "huckleberry hound" when eli speaks??

 

[Wingman]

I'm sorry. You must have much more knowledge about the game than a guy who played quarterback proficiently at the highest level for 14 years.

My level of knowledge has nothing to do with what he does or does not know. I know he is one of the guys that confirms the quarterback is not the smartest guy on the field. Compare his comments to Tunch, who does a breakdown of plays every week, who has done instructional videos used by teams to train their offensive lines. There is a reason this guy is only a yaker and not involved in any post game shows, compare him to Cowher, or just pick some of the other guys besides Emmit Smith.

I would suggest to you he was in the position he had in the NFL because he could throw a football a long ways accurately. He also let slip on one occasion it was hard to complete passes even when you knew the other teams defense, I believe at that time one of the guys on the cheatriots staff during spy gate was on his teams staff which was pointed out on here by one of the posters a while back.

I don't like Sims his work or any of his insights for their own merits and it has nothing to do with his ability to throw a football.

 

[Litos]

Lots of articles in si.com and cbssports praising Ben and saying the Steelers might be inconsistent but the talent is definitely there so watchout

 

[Drink IRON City]

All annoucers make some player-name mistakes. Give me a break with the anti-Steeler bias bullshit. He was all over Ben's jock Sunday (as well he should have been), like he is with just about every other quarterback.

I only used the STEELERS as an example, so give me a break, dude. I realize name mistakes are made all the time, but, he is more consistent than most. Chill out a little, but keep the spirit!!!!!!




Salute the nation

 

[bmoritz]

Just because Phil Simms was a decent player doesn't mean he's good at calling games. Apples to oranges.
Phil Simms is far and away the WORST game announcer out there. He flat out sucks! And yes, he is anti Steeler the vast majority of the time.

 

[GRBman]

Seriously, what does it even freaking matter? The talking heads be talkin'...They can talk about whatever they want...doesn't make the Steelers' record any better/worse...

Some of y'all sound like whiney-*** Florida State fans... "waaaa, the world is against us... waaaaa"

Give it a rest...

 

[LeXX75]

I could give 2 ***** what they say or don't say

 

[bmoritz]

I agree in that I don't care what they say. Actually, the Steelers seem to play better when they are under the radar. I just hate the fact that Simms calls so many of our games. He's such a jackass.

 

[deljzc]

You can always watch the games on mute.

 

[Stryker]

I agree in that I don't care what they say. Actually, the Steelers seem to play better when they are under the radar. I just hate the fact that Simms calls so many of our games. He's such a jackass.

Or we can start a petition like Denver, to ban Simms from working any of our games!

 

[topseed]

My level of knowledge has nothing to do with what he does or does not know. I know he is one of the guys that confirms the quarterback is not the smartest guy on the field. Compare his comments to Tunch, who does a breakdown of plays every week, who has done instructional videos used by teams to train their offensive lines. There is a reason this guy is only a yaker and not involved in any post game shows, compare him to Cowher, or just pick some of the other guys besides Emmit Smith.

I would suggest to you he was in the position he had in the NFL because he could throw a football a long ways accurately. He also let slip on one occasion it was hard to complete passes even when you knew the other teams defense, I believe at that time one of the guys on the cheatriots staff during spy gate was on his teams staff which was pointed out on here by one of the posters a while back.

I don't like Sims his work or any of his insights for their own merits and it has nothing to do with his ability to throw a football.

I guess you've never heard of Inside the NFL, then.

His ability to throw a football allowed him to play in the NFL for a long time. Through osmosis alone, besides being out there on the field, he developed an understanding of the quarterback position and how it's played.

If you don't care for his style, fine, but to say that Simms lacks football knowledge is a foolish statement.

 

[Wingman]

I guess you've never heard of Inside the NFL, then.

His ability to throw a football allowed him to play in the NFL for a long time. Through osmosis alone, besides being out there on the field, he developed an understanding of the quarterback position and how it's played.

If you don't care for his style, fine, but to say that Simms lacks football knowledge is a foolish statement.

We differ.

 

[topseed]

Just because Phil Simms was a decent player doesn't mean he's good at calling games. Apples to oranges.
Phil Simms is far and away the WORST game announcer out there. He flat out sucks! And yes, he is anti Steeler the vast majority of the time.

He doesn't call the games. He's the color guy. He's been on CBS's top announcer team since 2001. He'll be doing his fifth Super Bowl in the booth in February. I think if he was "far and away the WORST" out there, they might have replaced him by now, don't you think?

What possible motivation would Simms have for being "anti Steeler." Please, tell me.

 

[topseed]

We differ.

Indeed.

I guess you've never heard of Inside the NFL, then.

 

[Steel G]

The great Dr. Z, Paul Zimmerman, before becoming disabled due to strokes, used to write an amazing column for SI ranking the announcers every year. Most of his articles have been taken down since then, but here's some of the ones I found on Simms and partly, Nantz, all of it I totally agree with.

From 2004

http://www.clanram.com/forums/f58/dr-zs-tv-commentator-awards-7485/

Jim Nantz and Phil Simms, CBS -- They've come up half a star because Jim Nantz replaced Greg Gumbel. And the way Nantz started the season, I told myself, Wow, this is the year the network's No. 1 team finally gets out of jail and onto terra dolce. I mean, Nantz was actually telling you about good blocks in the line, and doing it fairly accurately. But the brass soon put a stop to that nonsense. Story line. Stars. That's what we want here.

Simms wrote a book in which he laid some heavy lumber on fellow members of his profession. Physician, heal thyself. I have half a page of his howlers, but I'll give you only a few. Pittsburgh-Dallas, Week 6: "You need a featured running back if you want to have success running the football." Patriots-Jets, Week 7: "If you want to be really good stopping the run, you need run stoppers inside." Patriots-Steelers, Week 8: "Looks like the football might have touched the top of the ground." (You mean it hadn't yet entered the cave?) Indy-Detroit, Thanksgiving Day, describing the harmony among the Colts receivers and their QB: "They have no egos. You don't hear of any squabbles." And this was not so long after that well-exposed sideline shot of Reggie Wayne shoving Peyton Manning. In Phil's defense, when he's really keyed up for a game, he can impart that sense of enthusiasm and excitement. But accuracy is not his long suit.

From 2008:

http://www.si.com/more-sports/2008/02/07/announcers

Jim Nantz and Phil Simms, CBSWell, Phil used to be a friend, but I'm sure he thinks I'm the worst kind of traitor during the past few years because, as his star had risen to the top of the network's roster, his ability to tell me stuff I don't know has not progressed. Which is a long way of saying that, whereas he'll provide a good sense of excitement when he's doing a significant game, he has fallen into cliché patterns that don't help.

The worst is the search for the eternal "story line," a favorite device of production people but something I've always felt is a deadly trap. "Here's the story line," we hear at the top of the show, or "among the many story lines," etc. No, the story line is what develops from the game itself, and as an old handicapper, I can tell you that most of the time it differs from preconceived notions. So why bother with it at all? Why get locked into such a static device, instead of merely letting the game take its course?

Because, as Emerson said, a foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, and in this case it's the variety we find in the regular production meeting in which the guy at the top rubs his hands and says, "OK, what's the story line tomorrow?" And then when it doesn't work out, which usually is the case, the guys doing the game feel betrayed, and like drowning souls clinging to a life raft, they try to hold onto any remnant of that line that they can find. They are trapped.

And Simms, who is blessed by working with one of the smoothest, most competent play-by-play men in the business, feels compelled to constantly remind us about the things he predicted early in the show and how they're working out, etc., neglecting the stuff that he had wrong. Well, I'm sounding like Johnny One Note here, but it's something that's becoming increasingly irritating. Besides, Phil collects plenty of awards for excellence ... he really doesn't need the poor old Doc to join the line of back-slappers.

Dr. Z's replacement, while I don't find him nearly as good, offered this in 2012:

http://www.si.com/nfl/audibles/2013/02/08/2012-nfl-announcer-rankings

8. Jim Nantz and Phil Simms, CBS

I enjoy listening to Nantz, so much so that I'm even willing to brush aside his occasional screw-up. His most noticeable error this season came when he mistakenly had the wrong team winning a Week 6 Jets-Patriots game.

More often than not, he's solid, if slightly docile. The problem is he's paired with Simms, who needs his own blooper reel.

Late in Super Bowl XLVII, for example, Nantz asked Simms if the Ravens should take a safety rather than punt to Ted Ginn Jr. Simms' response: "I'm thinking ... no, I would not. I would punt it."

The Ravens, of course, then took the safety.

And here's where he ranked them last year:

http://www.si.com/nfl/audibles/2014/02/07/2013-nfl-announcer-rankings

10. Jim Nantz and Phil Simms, CBS
Hearing Jim Nantz's voice calls to mind visions of Augusta or the Final Four. That can be a bit problematic from an NFL standpoint, given that he is CBS' No. 1 play-by-play man for the league.

Perhaps his silky smooth delivery would be more memorable were he not paired with Simms, consistently among the most frustrating color commentators out there. Simms' missteps have paved the way for one of the funnier Twitter accounts out there, @philsimmsquotes, which tracks his oft-nonsensical sayings.

A couple of the better ones: "You know the protection is good when you look down the field and no one is open" and "When running an offense you spend a lot of time thinking about how to score." The account also tracks how many times per game Simms uses the phrase "talked about" -- as in, "Well, you know, Jim, we talked about how important ..."

CBS may never shift this pairing from the No. 1 spot. We all know what we're getting at this point.

 

[Wingman]

The great Dr. Z, Paul Zimmerman, before becoming disabled due to strokes, used to write an amazing column for SI ranking the announcers every year. Most of his articles have been taken down since then, but here's some of the ones I found on Simms and partly, Nantz, all of it I totally agree with.

From 2004

http://www.clanram.com/forums/f58/dr-zs-tv-commentator-awards-7485/



From 2008:

http://www.si.com/more-sports/2008/02/07/announcers


Dr. Z's replacement, while I don't find him nearly as good, offered this in 2012:

http://www.si.com/nfl/audibles/2013/02/08/2012-nfl-announcer-rankings



And here's where he ranked them last year:

http://www.si.com/nfl/audibles/2014/02/07/2013-nfl-announcer-rankings

pure gold and CBS stands for can't broadcast sports

 

[topseed]

The great Dr. Z, Paul Zimmerman, before becoming disabled due to strokes, used to write an amazing column for SI ranking the announcers every year. Most of his articles have been taken down since then, but here's some of the ones I found on Simms and partly, Nantz, all of it I totally agree with.

From 2004

http://www.clanram.com/forums/f58/dr-zs-tv-commentator-awards-7485/



From 2008:

http://www.si.com/more-sports/2008/02/07/announcers


Dr. Z's replacement, while I don't find him nearly as good, offered this in 2012:

http://www.si.com/nfl/audibles/2013/02/08/2012-nfl-announcer-rankings



And here's where he ranked them last year:

http://www.si.com/nfl/audibles/2014/02/07/2013-nfl-announcer-rankings

Wow, Simms has done 20+ three-and-a-half-hour games a year for almost 15 years, and this is the best the great Dr. Z can come up with? That Phil made a few redundant comments and has the audacity to search for story lines? Impressive.