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Bobby Slowik

I just saw that. I know they battled WR injuries but still managed to win a playoff game. I would bring him in. What he did with Stroud in his rookie year was impressive.
 
I’m shocked at this! Geez! He’s a very good OC.He worked very well with Stroud. Came from Kyle Shanahan’s 49ers staff.
I’d take him over Artieball any day. He would be a very big component to Justin’s development if they decide to keep Justin.
 
steelhurt said:
I’m shocked at this! Geez! He’s a very good OC.He worked very well with Stroud. Came from Kyle Shanahan’s 49ers staff.
I’d take him over Artieball any day. He would be a very big component to Justin’s development if they decide to keep Justin.
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You still fail to accept that even if hired, he would be given the Tomlin playbook and told to make it work.
 
MT~Forged said:
You still fail to accept that even if hired, he would be given the Tomlin playbook and told to make it work.
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That’s where Art needs to step in and tell Tomlin to allow his OC to run his offense: if not we’re all just chasing our tails.
Art has got to make Tomlin understand that this archaic style offense simply doesn’t work in the league any longer.
If Art continues with the status quo then there is no hope. The franchise will remain stagnant and dying.
 
steelhurt said:
That’s where Art needs to step in and tell Tomlin to allow his OC to run his offense: if not we’re all just chasing our tails.
Art has got to make Tomlin understand that this archaic style offense simply doesn’t work in the league any longer.
If Art continues with the status quo then there is no hope. The franchise will remain stagnant and dying.
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AGAIN, why would you keep a Head Coach but strip them of duties?
 
Stop being condescending please. I do not need to be told “again”.
Now to answer you, the owner is not stripping the HC of his duties. I’m advocating for Art to tell Tomlin to allow his OC to run his offense.
Your best the HC’s allow for their coordinators to do their jobs but there are exceptions.
Andy Reid calls the plays in KC but he’s never going to be confused with Tomlin.
Campbell in Detroit allows Ben Johnson and Aaron Glenn to run their offense and defense respectively.
 
They won't get rid of Smith with 2 years left on his initial contract. I'd bring Slowik in as an assistant HC and passing game coordinator or something like that.
 
steelhurt said:
Stop being condescending please. I do not need to be told “again”.
Now to answer you, the owner is not stripping the HC of his duties. I’m advocating for Art to tell Tomlin to allow his OC to run his offense.
Your best the HC’s allow for their coordinators to do their jobs but there are exceptions.
Andy Reid calls the plays in KC but he’s never going to be confused with Tomlin.
Campbell in Detroit allows Ben Johnson and Aaron Glenn to run their offense and defense respectively.
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I think it is a novel idea. Just don’t think Rooney would implement it and Mike’s ego wouldn’t allow it.
 
What I'm hearing is if it's not a yes man he isn't getting hired here.
 
slashsteel said:
I think it is a novel idea. Just don’t think Rooney would implement it and Mike’s ego wouldn’t allow it.
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Unless Rooney convinces Tomlin that it is Tomlin's idea....on both sides of the ball.🤔
 
Reasons it won’t happen as an OC

1) Regressed in his position from year 1 to year 2
2) wouldn’t want further stifled by Mikeromanager
3) AS still has 2 years left-Art is cheap AF


Mike should 100% be on his last OC
Art IS 100% on his last HC
May as well bring Russ back too and wallow in the mediocrity cuz these fools ain’t going anywhere…may as well go nowhere together.
 
Yeap Smith isn't going anywhere with two more years in his contract, unless poached.
 
Curious move. Stroud did seem to regress a bit this year but that seemed to be tied to WR injuries. It's also common for QBs to take a step back in year 2 as opponents have more film on them and find weaknesses. Did Stroud get him fired? Maybe they didn't get along.
 
steelhurt said:
I’m shocked at this! Geez! He’s a very good OC.He worked very well with Stroud. Came from Kyle Shanahan’s 49ers staff.
I’d take him over Artieball any day. He would be a very big component to Justin’s development if they decide to keep Justin.
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Would the designated “need to change” allow the more open offense? Would He be allowed to apply his trade to the on field of play.?

I don’t want to sound like a broken record but, sometimes it just needs to be said.


Salute the nation
 
Drink IRON City said:
Would the designated “need to change” allow the more open offense? Would He be allowed to apply his trade to the on field of play.?

I don’t want to sound like a broken record but, sometimes it just needs to be said.


Salute the nation
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Well, we all know the offense needs opened up but unfortunately Rooney allows Tomlin to do whatever he wants even though it doesn’t work.
 
Why would anyone go to the land of perpetual mediocrity?
 
steelhurt said:
Stop being condescending please. I do not need to be told “again”.
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Not being condescending, just a simple question

steelhurt said:
Now to answer you, the owner is not stripping the HC of his duties. I’m advocating for Art to tell Tomlin to allow his OC to run his offense.
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You make no sense with this answer. You say the owner is not stripping the HC of his duties, then say he should strip him of his duty to lead the team as far as the OC is concerned. If the HC is not doing what you think needs to be done, you replace him, not remove duties.
steelhurt said:
Your best the HC’s allow for their coordinators to do their jobs but there are exceptions.
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The head coach is hired to run the team as it pertains to assistant coaches, philosophy, game planning and execution. I would have to know who/what you consider a successful exception.
steelhurt said:
Andy Reid calls the plays in KC but he’s never going to be confused with Tomlin.
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I am not against a HC calling the plays directly, and never said I was.
steelhurt said:
Campbell in Detroit allows Ben Johnson and Aaron Glenn to run their offense and defense respectively.
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Every good leader I have ever been associated with does this, as there is not enough time to do everything themselves. In most cases those leaders don’t even have a clue how to do the other jobs themselves.

Tomlin is NOT that kind of a leader, and it is why he has reached his ceiling of slightly above average.
 
MT~Forged said:
Not being condescending, just a simple question


You make no sense with this answer. You say the owner is not stripping the HC of his duties, then say he should strip him of his duty to lead the team as far as the OC is concerned. If the HC is not doing what you think needs to be done, you replace him, not remove duties.

The head coach is hired to run the team as it pertains to assistant coaches, philosophy, game planning and execution. I would have to know who/what you consider a successful exception.

I am not against a HC calling the plays directly, and never said I was.

Every good leader I have ever been associated with does this, as there is not enough time to do everything themselves. In most cases those leaders don’t even have a clue how to do the other jobs themselves.

Tomlin is NOT that kind of a leader, and it is why he has reached his ceiling of slightly above average.
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I simply don’t think you and I will ever agree. MT-Forged pretty much says it all for me. You keep supporting and defending this fraud of a coach and see where that gets this organization.
The guy cannot build a championship football team. He’s been chief architect for years and this is as good as it gets.
He cannot hire quality coaches and coordinators.
Let’s keep giving him new contracts and raises and expect things to change.
 
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