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Buckle-up boys! One week from today. Finally!

SteelerSask2 said:
Based on your analysis of what exactly. Cause Allar is a 3rd rounder. Notre Dame swallowed Penn State that year. Howard Destroyed Notre Dame in the final.
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Based on his pedigree before he got to the QB Developmental Power House known as Penn State ;) You also can't teach velocity.....the kid has a cannon arm. The whole west coast offense is predicated on footwork. I saw a really good video of Bill Walsh going through his offense once. The receivers make their cuts coordinated with the QBs drop backs. It's all footwork and timing based and coordinated with the receivers. Allar went poo poo when his footwork went poo. Who knows if he can be remade or not but if there is a guy who can do it it's McCarthy and if Allars footwork is remade, you are left with a laser arm who can fit balls into tight windows

Here is what was said about Josh Allen at Wyoming.......
Coming out of Wyoming, Josh Allen’s footwork was highly erratic and disconnected from his upper body, leading to major draft concerns. Because his feet weren't aligned with his targets, his front hip frequently closed prematurely. This prevented hip rotation, forcing him to over-rely on his arm and causing inconsistent ball placement and low completion percentages.The mechanical and physical issues that defined his footwork in college included:

Disconnected Sequence: Allen’s feet and eyes were famously out of sync, as evaluators noted before the draft.Platform Inconsistency: He often threw off his back foot, "arm-punched" his throws, and failed to plant firmly on his intended line.

Platform Inconsistency: He often threw off his back foot, "arm-punched" his throws, and failed to plant firmly on his intended line.

Stance Base: He tended to have a narrow base, which reduced his throwing power and made his accuracy suffer under pressure

In-Game Adjustments: Without a strong supporting cast at Wyoming, he frequently tried to compensate by over-striding, throwing from awkward platforms, and relying entirely on his elite arm strength rather than fundamental mechanics.

Now the same exact things were said about Allar and look at his receivers while he was there. He didn't have OSU receiver talent like Howard did and it wasn't remotely close.

Allar might suck but he also might be a franchise QB one day. It was a high reward relatively low risk pick. For God's sake we spent a third on Caleb and he might ot even make the darn team.

One last thing I will say is I often go back in time and take a look at the Rivals 100 top high school players. A lot of the guys ranked in the the top 50 never amount to anything but you'd be surprised how many of the all pro talents the game produces were 5 star kids in high school. Allar I believe was the number 1 QB in his class......so was Justin Fields so it may mean squat but I'll draft a top rated QB in high school that has a rocket arm that was mismanaged in college in the 3rd all frigging day long. He's the inverse Kenny Pickett......Kenny performed in college but is on the small.side, has tiny hands, and never had a rocket arm and we took him in the first. Where did that get us.......go with talent!!!
 
You have to see them play against the 1's. That's the real evaluation. You can talk footwork out your # ss. Play the 1's. See if you like it.
 
xjx said:
You have to see them play against the 1's. That's the real evaluation. You can talk footwork out your # ss. Play the 1's. See if you like it.
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Josh Allen at Wyoming showed elite traits and was highly erratic. He completed 56% of his passes and did he play in the Big 10? I'm not saying he will be Allen. What I am saying is they drafted Allen on potential and then fixed his mechanics and now he's a stud. Many of you look at Allars games against top flight competition and say ah he sucks.....wasted pick. So the reverse is true then? All guys who tore it up in college are destined to be stars ey? Allar may be nothing but he has arm strength that you can't teach. He made elite throws from.time to time that got you excited. His game film shows that clearly.

He also made throws that made you want to break you TV but there are throws Allar is capable of making that Howard never will be capable of making because he doesn't have the cannon Drew has

This is all about coaching and whether or not the coaching sticks
 
BTW I looked up arm strength of Allar and Howard and NFL comparisons from a scouting perspective

Allars arm strength is compared to Mahomes, Allen, and Flacco

Howard was compared to Rudolph

Obviously so much more to a QB performing than arm strength but on routes like deep comebacks, deep outs, corner routes, and field-side deep crossers velocity matters. You either have it or you dont
 
SteelerSask2 said:
Im not saying Allar couldn't be better. Im just saying Ive seen nothing to show he will.
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He has shown elite throws. He wouldnt have been drafted in the 3rd if he didnt show some great stuff......come on man. He has also shown dog sheet throws. That's the point. Clean up his mechanics and a lot can change. Will it? I don't f-ing know. But it's been done before
 
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