Frustrating season indeed. But he can’t throw the ball to himself albeit he may drop it…
Can we talk about Johnson?
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Johnson previously had good numbers with the Steelers in terms of scoring too. In the right system, Johnson would be a stud.
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Johnson leads the lead in PI calls, plus at one point he was near the top of the league in separation. He is not near as bad as people on here make him out to be. In a proper offense I think he would be able to put up big numbers. Is he worth 18 million? I think he could be the WR market is so inflated right now. I think we hold on to him until we have to resign Pickett / Pickens. I would hate to use a draft pick on another WR when we have much more pressing needs. DJ / Pickens is a decent combo and we can fill #3 w/ whoever. I do not like just having just Pickens and some unknowns.
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I will play this game. You say he is worthy of that pick. Then the Steelers have just put themselves in that teams exact spot needing to draft a better than DJ receiver with that pick or their own before. Make sense?
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A.) Have a pretty damn good track record of finding NFL ready WRs
B.) Have an unproven but fairly talented guy in CA3 on the roster who was shut down early in the season from injuries
C.) have a ps guy in cody White they really like, plus anthony Miller, who was ahead of sims when he got hurt… its not like they are devoid of talent
And i am specifically saying if we knew we could get Addison for the pick we were trading him for, then do it… Addison is a route running beast with better hands, size, and speed than DJ… some teams just prefer an established player over a pick…
We only would save like 5 million this year, but it would free up a ton of money next year and if need be cover for us pushing some out…
We probably aren’t contending next year anyhow… if you want an established possession guy, there are some older vets that will be cheap… and you could probably get juju for 8 or 9 per for 3 years.
So then if you are in the seat of the team making that trade why are you so stupid as not to take Addison yourself. Which is totally my point.
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There are teams that would rather have proven veterans over rookies whether they are in a win-now mode or just need to make a splash for fan support. It also could be more of a scheme fit. All kinds of reasons.
Johnson, this season, is definitely 100% not worth $18mil as a #1 WR.
However, as the season went on - and especially in this last game - we saw a glimpse of what we have in a true #1 WR. Pickens will flourish in the off-season and come back even more of a dawg. We saw his absolute dynamic body control this game and how he not only could do THAT, but also secure the ball when it's in his catch radius.
Pickens will be our #1 next season, but still on his rookie contract. After 2024 season is when we'll need to extend him. By then, the WR salary numbers will be probably closer to $25 mil per, which will make Johnson's pay about where he should be...even if it takes another season.
Pickens - Johnson - CA3 and Miller will be our top 4 WRs.
We'll likely draft someone, but we won't be pressed hard to take a guy early.
So, Johnson is over-paid but he had us over the barrel. I'd have kept Juju, but that's water under the bridge.
However, as the season went on - and especially in this last game - we saw a glimpse of what we have in a true #1 WR. Pickens will flourish in the off-season and come back even more of a dawg. We saw his absolute dynamic body control this game and how he not only could do THAT, but also secure the ball when it's in his catch radius.
Pickens will be our #1 next season, but still on his rookie contract. After 2024 season is when we'll need to extend him. By then, the WR salary numbers will be probably closer to $25 mil per, which will make Johnson's pay about where he should be...even if it takes another season.
Pickens - Johnson - CA3 and Miller will be our top 4 WRs.
We'll likely draft someone, but we won't be pressed hard to take a guy early.
So, Johnson is over-paid but he had us over the barrel. I'd have kept Juju, but that's water under the bridge.
I'd be open for business with every player not named TJ Watt, Minkah or Kenny P. If someone wants to pay stupid they are all available. Just really don't think anyone is paying a first for a guy who is 800-1100 yd/ season coming off a no Tuddy season with questionable hands.
I am not trading Kenny, Pickens, Cam, TJ, Highsmith-,Mink, Daniels, and Muth.
I measure every deal like this. Would I want the Steelers to trade a 20 -27 pick for DJ. The answer in my mind is clearly no.
Cam is old, Highsmith is a tough deal to lose, Muth has a soft head. Daniel's whatever. All but the big three if you are paying stupid I'm selling.
He sure wasn't looking old. Pretty productive season.
Also Muth is what like 6th in TE yardage.
Steelers have decent draft selections and free agency that is more than enough to not trade every Tom, Dick, and Harry. Now if someone offers a first for DJ I wouldn't lose sleep...
Steelers have decent draft selections and free agency that is more than enough to not trade every Tom, Dick, and Harry. Now if someone offers a first for DJ I wouldn't lose sleep...
Totally agree. But with his 20 million plus salary and fact he probably isn't here when this team really contends.....Im open for business. But agree he glued team together and largely took them on his back. A contender should have made Steelers offer they couldn't refuse at trade deadline.
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JuJu rejected more than that to go play for the chiefs, for 3,75M. why would he want to come back for that cheap contract? I agree that this WR group needs a proven possession guy but you won't get a guy like JuJu for that
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Like I said on another thread. If you can get a first round pick for him you better at least listen.
How about our ILB situation though? Robinson missed some key tackles, Spillane was chasing Watson from behind all game, and Bush is all but definitely gone. And Spillane is a UFA as well, That leaves Jack that’s only on contract for next year. I mean I would love to get Tremaine Edmunds but that’s not realistic.
How about our ILB situation though? Robinson missed some key tackles, Spillane was chasing Watson from behind all game, and Bush is all but definitely gone. And Spillane is a UFA as well, That leaves Jack that’s only on contract for next year. I mean I would love to get Tremaine Edmunds but that’s not realistic.
I think ILB is in the top 4 picks.
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Dionte Johnson has the ability to create yards after the catch very similar to Santonio Holmes. Early in his career I thought he'd be like Tyreek Hill....struggle catching early in his career then turn it on to become a complete WR just like Tyreek Hill. He's got to work more on catching the football with his hands in the offseason if he's ever going to improve. Everything else he does is excellent out there.....he made a few bad plays this season that really stood out in a bad way but he did have 86 receptions this season. I just wish he'd work on his receiving skills. His hands at this point are a liability and the only thing holding him back from becoming an Elite WR.
Because some teams simply want a track record, especially with embattled GMs… we have not had great success drafting and developing DBs the last decade and a half or so… yeah there are a few hems, but a lot of busts.. we have taken to getting the bulk of the starters through UFA orctraded now… vbut
8 or 9 mil per year… thats his market value at this point
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Oh, thought you meant 9M total for 3 years
Embattled means they are drafting before the Steelers which is a top 20 pick. Do they want a track record for head scratching drops or lack of deep threat. Just questioning. Juju will not be a Steelers player again. Not after learned more in a week comment.
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I believe the three drops today were uncontested. He just dropped them. Then you have Pickens who is on the side line getting mugged. Somehow gets his hands on the ball and impossibly gets his toes in bounds. All for nothing though. Within 2 minutes and NY didn't even glance at a replay.
