Mitch's explanation of first sounded accurate and took heat off of Sims and put it on him. Muth got jammed should have been deeper whih would have taken Sims linebacker out of equation. He shouldn't have thrown it.
Canada was right.
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You see even if you don't like Mitch he wants to win and takes responsibility. Wouod be really nice if Tomlin explained why they play first and 10 on last drive like it was first drive even though there is a nobody q. In game not a chance they will throw. And they were getting smoked for 7-10 yards a crack every base run.
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Mitch locks on to one guy, and that's where the ball is going, he did this almost the whole time, if I can see it you can bet your *** the defense sees it too. How this guy can't look off a defender after multiple years in the NFL is beyond me. Rudolph at least looks defenders off. His knock is it seems to take him too long to process and make the decision to throw, which results in dump off passes too often.
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They are in the same area for a second. If Mitch throws a half a second earlier or a half a second later it’s not a problem. You can’t completely ignore the entire middle of the field. It’s not sustainable. The QB has to be better. We can’t just turn into the only team in the NFL that ignores the entirety of the middle of the field. You have to be able to attack it. If Mitch can’t grasp that concept he shouldn’t be on the god damn team let alone the backup quarterback.
He is a failed experiment. His deficiencies haven't improved. You can still attack the middle of the field. Plenty of route concepts that have a S looking off in another direction or have two corners again not in the same area.
Just that particular play isn't good for Mitch. Or perhaps isn't good in general.
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So on that one int that Patrick Queen picked off, I saw where Mitch was locked on staring down his receiver and Queen was watching Mitch’s eyes locked on to the receiver,
With Queen’s closing speed it was a given he was going to make that play.
I will admit I was pushing for the Steelers to sign Mitch in the off season impressed with the fact he had a good TD to Int ration, won and loss record, pro bowl but I overlooked his shortcomings. Stuff like what we saw Sunday. He always telegraphed plays but I thought he was past that.
I was wrong!
With Queen’s closing speed it was a given he was going to make that play.
I will admit I was pushing for the Steelers to sign Mitch in the off season impressed with the fact he had a good TD to Int ration, won and loss record, pro bowl but I overlooked his shortcomings. Stuff like what we saw Sunday. He always telegraphed plays but I thought he was past that.
I was wrong!
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Not the best film but you’ll see what I am saying. It actually looks like Freiermuth is running a dig route that was played well by the ravens and Sims a comeback. But as you can see if Mitch waits a half a second he has a hole, albeit a tight window, to throw it. Now as a QB when you see that dig route get ate up he should have came off Muth and go back to Johnson for a dump off. It looks like Harris gets covered to the left side in the flat so Johnson was the next choice. Again, not a bad play design. Everyone uses a similar play. It’s just poorly executed.
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True. I noticed once yesterday, the rats had a 6 men in the box. I believe it was on a first down. The Steelers tried their usual run up the middle, and Najee got smacked in the backfield for a loss. If you can't run against a 6 man front, you're screwed. The Steelers do that stupid crap all the time on D, and get gashed consistently.
Canada obviously is a terrible play caller, but if we had even an above average o-line, his bad play calling would only would only screw us against better teams, when it really counts. Instead, our organization as a whole doesn't give a **** about the o-line, and without a great QB to bail us out over and over... well, you see what we get.
I agree. When they run well they are good enough.
It was a bad play design you can play that if game all you want you want a play where the defender is going opposite direction.
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Dude, it’s a dig route. Since you obviously don’t understand the concept I’ll explain. Muth is playing a square snap down dig route. You play that when you see man coverage. Sims is playing the comeback. So for Freiermuth his job is to get his man committed to stopping the outside route then drop his hips and go inside. Ravens played this exceptionally well. They jammed and kept Muth from selling the outside route which allowed him to turn and cover to the inside. So that is when Trubisky needs to come off that receiver. Because the play is designed to once the defender commits outside for Trubisky to lay it on him right after the break inside. Instead Muth didn’t get the depth or the separation he needed to. Sims is covered on the comeback and a LB had already committed to the flat for Harris. Mitch has two options. Risk the sack and let Muth cross past Sims defender or dump it for a marginal gain to DJ. Now there’s variations on what to do after Muth depending on the defense but in this scenario Muth didn’t win and Mitch made a boneheaded decision. If Muth wins and gets depth and sells the outside route it’s a first down and perhaps TD. But again the defender played it well.
I know what a ******* dig route is. Just lost a friend and Steeler friend so not in the mood to hear this bullshit so whatever.
Mitch, Sims and Muth all alluded to the play actually being designed that way.
Apparently the hiccup was that Muth didn't get a free release. Otherwise, the play went as planned.
Imagine that, the TE got chipped at the line of scrimmage on what was obviously a pass play.
Or, imagine THIS: Our OC designs plays with the idea in mind that the TE won't be chipped. smmfh
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The Rooney's simply toe the company line......they are in it for the $$$$$. I guess I can't blame them.
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Oh man Sask just dropped a 500 lb Paveway Mk 82 right on Hussien’s head with this statement. Tremendous explanation in simplicity. Using the zones not just as targets but to move defensive backs with routes AND the rub/dig/slant/button and go design trees allows the zones to move and vary to allow favorable matchups. This OC does not do that. He uses pre-snap motion which can unbalance the defensive scheme, but the route trees are so predictable and unimaginative in design that it doesn’t move the zones enough to allow help to the QB to using his eyes to freeze the safety or extra DB in away from the favorable match up.
Too add to Buckeye’s comment, Sims even stated he had “to duck” because he wasn’t sure if the pass was for him or Muth. He said he saw the LB as close as he was to Pat, and (in hindsight) should have either caught it or knocked it down.
This offense has plays that the other 31 teams offense uses. However, Canada doesn’t design plays based upon “Murphy’s Law”, he designs them thinking every block is perfect, every release is clean. Why? Because that’s what he saw in college play. Either he refuses to see or cannot accept that the NFL has superlative athletes who are well above in capabilities in all aspects of the game, and it’s going to be rare to see a perfect block or clean release unless we have All-Pros on offense. Of which we don’t, yet.
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Reminds me of when The Bruce would call play-action. I'd be sitting on my couch laughing while the LB's ran right past the RB and zeroed in on Ben.
After a while even Mrs. Burgundy be like, "Why do they think a fake to the RB will fool anyone when they never run the ball?"
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Hire frank reich to coach the offense, bring back Mike munchak to coach the o-line, hire Vic fangio to take over the defense and stop ******* around… don’t let tomlin near the playcalling. It’s simple If youre not going to fire tomlin prop him up with ex-head coaches. GoSteelers!!!
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Plays designed to wait until one receiver crosses another that take that long to develop are doomed to fail. It's not like you get 5 steamboats in the NFL.
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Muth is playing a square snap down dig route. You play that when you see man coverage. Sims is playing the comeback. So for Freiermuth his job is to get his man committed to stopping the outside route then drop his hips and go inside. Ravens played this exceptionally well. They jammed and kept Muth from selling the outside route which allowed him to turn and cover to the inside. So that is when Trubisky needs to come off that receiver. Because the play is designed to once the defender commits outside for Trubisky to lay it on him right after the break inside. Instead Muth didn’t get the depth or the separation he needed to. Sims is covered on the comeback and a LB had already committed to the flat for Harris. Mitch has two options. Risk the sack and let Muth cross past Sims defender or dump it for a marginal gain to DJ. Now there’s variations on what to do after Muth depending on the defense but in this scenario Muth didn’t win and Mitch made a boneheaded decision. If Muth wins and gets depth and sells the outside route it’s a first down and perhaps TD. But again the defender played it well.
Kenny has progressed throwing over the middle, he doesn't get hurt we win simple.
The run D is still terrible, and it all starts up front they keep over playing Wormley and he is not a run stiffing DT he is meant to play in a fast attacking the edges 4-3 or play DE when we go 4-2-4 not interior all year this guy gets washed like he is a mascot for tide. should have stacked the dl and gone 5-3-3 last drive and dared them to pass.
Austin has done nothing better than Butler it's the same D please both coordinators replace with external hires or let Flores modify, Canada can go back to the ncaa.
The run D is still terrible, and it all starts up front they keep over playing Wormley and he is not a run stiffing DT he is meant to play in a fast attacking the edges 4-3 or play DE when we go 4-2-4 not interior all year this guy gets washed like he is a mascot for tide. should have stacked the dl and gone 5-3-3 last drive and dared them to pass.
Austin has done nothing better than Butler it's the same D please both coordinators replace with external hires or let Flores modify, Canada can go back to the ncaa.