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CB Levi Wallace signs with Steelers

bermudasteel said:
With Ahkello and Levi on the edges - trust me - this may end up being the BEST SECONDARY we've seen EVER. Both are above average w/ speed to cover man-to-man and they are good in zone coverage too...

Move Sutton back inside - we may have found the missing piece that Hilton had when he was here.

I'm about to get some Tito's to celebrate!!!
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EVER? sounds like you are deep into that bottle!
 
Ironcitysteelers said:
Right. Where was all these singing when BB was here. No idea if we had cap but **** if we only had a line last year
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THIS


They did a HUGE diservice to the best QB in STEELERS history. I couldn't believe how low rent they went on the OL.


Here's to this years new and improved OL and lets hope like hell the right players are notified and locked early so they get some playing time together before the season starts and NOT 4 weeks into the season.




Salute the nation
 
Ironcitysteelers said:
Right. Where was all these singing when BB was here. No idea if we had cap but **** if we only had a line last year
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It's pretty simple, really. The Steelers have more money to spend in free agency because Ben is no longer commanding a monumental salary at the quarterback position. The contract he signed in 2020 (2 years for $68 million) at his advanced age severely handicapped them. Sure, he took a five million dollar pay cut last season when restructuring, but he still cost the Steelers $26 million against the cap last year, plus another $10.3 in dead cap in 2022. Trubisky is costing a fraction of that, so they can address other areas of need.

Levi Wallace is a solid signing. Very encouraged with what they're doing so far this offseason.
 
Drink IRON City said:
THIS


They did a HUGE diservice to the best QB in STEELERS history. I couldn't believe how low rent they went on the OL.


Here's to this years new and improved OL and lets hope like hell the right players are notified and locked early so they get some playing time together before the season starts and NOT 4 weeks into the season.




Salute the nation
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They gambled last season in the dumbest way and now are making a ton of insurance bets … if last year’s gambles now pay off they will be hella deep
 
topseed said:
It's pretty simple, really. The Steelers have more money to spend in free agency because Ben is no longer commanding a monumental salary at the quarterback position. The contract he signed in 2020 (2 years for $68 million) at his advanced age severely handicapped them. Sure, he took a five million dollar pay cut last season when restructuring, but he still cost the Steelers $26 million against the cap last year, plus another $10.3 in dead cap in 2022. Trubisky is costing a fraction of that, so they can address other areas of need.

Levi Wallace is a solid signing. Very encouraged with what they're doing so far this offseason.
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That doesn’t make sense… ben cost 26 million and rudolph 2 million last year, tying up 28 million total in the top two spots

Mason counts 5 million this year, ben is still on the books for 10 million, and Trabisky is going to pan out around 7 million , so there is a slight savings, but not nearly the money they are dumping around right now…
 
madinsomniac said:
That doesn’t make sense… ben cost 26 million and rudolph 2 million last year, tying up 28 million total in the top two spots

Mason counts 5 million this year, ben is still on the books for 10 million, and Trabisky is going to pan out around 7 million , so there is a slight savings, but not nearly the money they are dumping around right now…
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Ben was paid 26 million but his cap hit was 41 million. Gotta remember all those restructured deals.
 
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slashsteel said:
We need two corners. I hear incentives is the only thing holding the Witherspoon finalize that the perimeters of the contract is in place.
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You would think after signing Wallace that Witherspoon is gone. If they can get both done, that would be gravy and one less position they need to focus on early in the draft.
 
After reading Dulac's chat on the PG, it sounds like Witherspoon may not have accepted the Steelers offer and/or he may not be resigned now. His chances are much less anyhow. He actually thinks they still have a chance of signing Haden back instead.

Also, he thinks Dotson's starting job is in more jeopardy than Green. He thinks Green may move over to guard and that the Steelers really aren't high on Dotson anymore. Banner should be gone shortly.
 
TDX27 said:
After reading Dulac's chat on the PG, it sounds like Witherspoon may not have accepted the Steelers offer and/or he may not be resigned now. His chances are much less anyhow. He actually thinks they still have a chance of signing Haden back instead.

Also, he thinks Dotson's starting job is in more jeopardy than Green. He thinks Green may move over to guard and that the Steelers really aren't high on Dotson anymore. Banner should be gone shortly.
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Penning in rnd 1.20

Dotson won't be cut n his rookie deal. They will either make him depth or he wins camp battle, either way it's OK.


Salute the nation
 
madinsomniac said:
Mason counts 5 million this year, ben is still on the books for 10 million, and Trabisky is going to pan out around 7 million , so there is a slight savings, but not nearly the money they are dumping around right now…
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But Rudolph was on the roster last year too so removing that and including Ben's dead money, the team is spending basically $17 million on their starting QB. That's less than $26 million. I think it's about $9 million less, which is less than the team spent to get Daniels ($8.75 million). The savings next year hits about $20 million - massive.
 
Drink IRON City said:
THIS


They did a HUGE diservice to the best QB in STEELERS history. I couldn't believe how low rent they went on the OL.


Here's to this years new and improved OL and lets hope like hell the right players are notified and locked early so they get some playing time together before the season starts and NOT 4 weeks into the season.




Salute the nation
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Cap room is the answer.
 
Steeltime said:
But Rudolph was on the roster last year too so removing that and including Ben's dead money, the team is spending basically $17 million on their starting QB. That's less than $26 million. I think it's about $9 million less, which is less than the team spent to get Daniels ($8.75 million). The savings next year hits about $20 million - massive.
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Mason only counted 2 million last year.. its a 3 million bump…

basically the third qb is going to cost a pittance last year and this…

Last year tge Steelers spent 26 on ben, 2 on mason, and league minimum on Haskins

This year they will spend 10 on ben
5 on mason
Something between 5-9 (lets say seven) on trabisky
And league minimum on haskins

So on the qb position they are spending six million less this year.. thats one ok starter.. its not like they are spending 20 million less like some here are insinuating

There are other things at play here… juju is virtually gone, replacing him with a rookie saves probably six or seven million, which they can put towards one of the linemen

haden is off the books, that should finance the two cb moves…

Basically the team has had enough draft and developmental fails that there was less money tied up in extensions and enough holes on the roster to warrant spending money in ufa rather than on guys like edmunds or an aging Haden
 
What people are forgetting is that last year's cap was MUCH lower than it was expected to be, and it put a lot of teams, not just the steelers behind the 8 ball.

Last year the cap was 182.5m, in 2020 the cap was 198.2m. Do you understand how rare it is for the cap to DECREASE from one year to the next? This year the cap is 208.2m.
 
Do you know what would REALLY BE COOL???

If Minkah gave up #39 to Levi and took #29 as his new number. They were dominant together - this is gonna be good!!!
 
madinsomniac said:
That doesn’t make sense… ben cost 26 million and rudolph 2 million last year, tying up 28 million total in the top two spots

Mason counts 5 million this year, ben is still on the books for 10 million, and Trabisky is going to pan out around 7 million , so there is a slight savings, but not nearly the money they are dumping around right now…
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First of all, you keep saying that Rudolph's number is 5 million against the cap this year. It isn't. It's 4 million. Which was a foolish contract offer to start with, if they didn't believe he was anything else but a backup. Yeah, Ben's dead cap is a drag in 2022, but as insaniti correctly mentioned, the overall size of the cap is substantially larger, so that more than offsets the carryover of 10.3 million.

So the cap hit for the top two slots this year is about 11 million. Last year it was 28 million. 17 million in extra cap room is 8.2% of the entire cap. More than a slight savings. And next year, they'll finally be free of Roethlisberger's final contract, so they'll have even more freedom with Trubisky locked in around 7-9 mill.

The point is, the Steelers are saving a ton of money at the starting quarterback position compared to what they've been committing to Ben for several years, and that allows more flexibility in signing free agents. Ben's cap number alone last year was over 13% of the team total, with another 5% deferred. Trubisky's this year is 3%. Do the math.
 
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Holy **** with all these good signings, Ben may want to join Brady and unretire.

Noooooo!!!!
 
Lots of 2 year deals. If we don't make a solid run at the Lombardi we are positioned to blow the whole thing up.
 
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