Charlie Kirk shot from a distance, direct hit

[MT~Forged]

You're absolutely right. I don't pretend to have answers, but I'm baffled as to why we don't even try.

Because politicians NEVER do anything to fix problems. The problems work to their favor because they can campaign on fixing the problems if only you will vote for them. They do nothing then campaign again on fixing the problem, and idiot voters keep electing them to keep doing nothing.

I agree we won't be able to legislate our way out of this.

How do you propose to do it then?

Still, I fail to see why large capacity, military style weapons ever became available to the public. That is simply absurd and ridiculous. What possible need does that fill among the citizenry? Serious question.

The 2nd amendment was written to allow citizens to have weapons equal to the Government. The problem is that the government has put way too many restrictions on Americans because they know they need to maintain weapon superiority over the populace. In my view you should be able to legally own anything you are willing to pay for.

How did we get to the point where guns are the leading cause of death among kids and teens in America?

We got here because personal responsibility is now optional, and accepted by the populace.

Mental health? Pharmaceuticals? Carelessness? Access? Of course it's a combination of all of these and more. But nothing is being done about any of it. Nobody cares and there is no argument that can be made otherwise.

All the above.
Mental health, now it is legislated that you must accept mental health illness. Those with it are to be protected at all costs so as to not make then feel bad. Pharma, they bribe politicians to let them sell anything and everything without repercussions.
Carelessness, that’s what you get when you aren’t held personally responsible. Access, again if you are not going to be help personally responsible, why worry about keeping things secured?

We've become a nation of dicks and cowards.

Some of you people have. Always wanting the government to protect you from everything, even yourself.

We ignore and glorify violence in the same breath.

Yep through video games, rap culture, media portrayals (movies), etc. When was the last time you saw a G rated family movie made that wasn’t animated?

We customize our assault rifles like we're accessorizing an outfit.

Most everyone that does that do so to make them much more lethal if needed to protect yourself, loved ones, home, or property. The VAST overwhelming majority do so while never harming anyone.

All we can offer are thoughts and prayers.

Because police and courts have been prevented from serving justice to those who cause these issues.

Nobody cares.

This is obvious by the number of votes worthless political candidates get.

Nothing will change. Our culture needs an enema

It will only change when Americans quit voting for those who fight common sense personal responsibility legislation, AND YOU HAVE TO STICK IT OUT FOR MORE THAN A COUPLE YEARS. This issue took decades to get here, it will take decades of actual dedication to reverse it.

From youR past posts, I don’t hold out much hope that you will be part of the solution needed.

 

[MT~Forged]

Trump said "full force" of the military, but no one knows what he meant by that yet apparently.

Yet you believe it to mean to wipe out all those who don’t agree with him politically, instead of them being used to support legal law enforcement.

 

[MT~Forged]

Afghanistan we were too worried about civilian casualties. We could have wiped Afghanistan off the map. Vietnam was a cluster all around. We also didn't have today's technology, but the whole military gameplan was terrible. They didn't have a clear objective or a tactical gameplan.

The politicians that restrain our military from acting decisively and with force do so because they don’t want to be remembered as those who were involved in the atomic attacks on Japan. The world was absolutely horrified by those two events, American politicians have demanded that never happen again. That is why the last 4 wars were fought whit their hands tied.

You can’t win a war if you are fighting it to not hurt people.

 

[jitter77]

Yet you believe it to mean to wipe out all those who don’t agree with him politically, instead of them being used to support legal law enforcement.

I don't believe he is going to go just wipe out people, but Trump seems to think he can do what he wants. I just think we are inching closer to using military against citizens. I can't say I would be against it in some areas, but it's a slippery slope.
I agree with what you said about the wars. My point was the govt choose to fight the way we did. If the military was fully unleashed the recent wars would have ended much quicker and with way less American casualties.

 

[Booted]

 

[Ironcitysteelers]

Booted making memes be like….

 

[steel dino]

You can’t win a war if you are fighting it to not hurt people.

It’s fairly obvious that Vladimir Putin agrees with that statement.

 

[Sarge]

Afghanistan we were too worried about civilian casualties. We could have wiped Afghanistan off the map. Vietnam was a cluster all around. We also didn't have today's technology, but the whole military gameplan was terrible. They didn't have a clear objective or a tactical gameplan.

The problem, in both wars, was politicians. Point blank, period, end of story. If these ******** in Washington would shut their pie holes and let military leaders lead their troops in combat, we’d win wars far more quickly and more decisively than we have recently.

Do you realize that in my final combat tour of Afghanistan, we had to have a legal brief about the rules of engagement prior to every mission? The brief was given by a ******* attorney. In Afghanistan. We had to ask permission to return fire in different engagements. That’s nuts.

You win wars not by dying for your country, but by making your enemies die for theirs. You win by dragging them into the sewer and giving them a glimpse of hell right before they die. You don’t win by asking “Mother, may I?”

 

[Djfan]

The problem, in both wars, was politicians. Point blank, period, end of story. If these ******** in Washington would shut their pie holes and let military leaders lead their troops in combat, we’d win wars far more quickly and more decisively than we have recently.

Do you realize that in my final combat tour of Afghanistan, we had to have a legal brief about the rules of engagement prior to every mission? The brief was given by a ******* attorney. In Afghanistan. We had to ask permission to return fire in different engagements. That’s nuts.

You win wars not by dying for your country, but by making your enemies die for theirs. You win by dragging them into the sewer and giving them a glimpse of hell right before they die. You don’t win by asking “Mother, may I?”

100% true.

My high school buddy's dad was an F4 pilot in Viet Nam. He told me that they made him go on missions with no munitions. None. It's insane.

These politicians are retards, and good soldiers die.

 

[Sarge]

100% true.

My high school buddy's dad was an F4 pilot in Viet Nam. He told me that they made him go on missions with no munitions. None. It's insane.

These politicians are retards, and good soldiers die.

Fortunately, we were always armed. Well armed in fact. But what good is it when you are unsure when you can use it? Those moments of indecision cost lives, no doubt. How many didn’t have to die?

 

[Djfan]

Fortunately, we were always armed. Well armed in fact. But what good is it when you are unsure when you can use it? Those moments of indecision cost lives, no doubt. How many didn’t have to die?

My nephew died there. SF. They never got the real story on it. He was killed at night, on base, no witnesses. He was buried with a LOT of accolades and medals, but no purple heart.

Shortly after, stupid Biden pulled out of there, arming the bad guys.

Why did my nephew have to die?

 

[Sarge]

My nephew died there. SF. They never got the real story on it. He was killed at night, on base, no witnesses. He was buried with a LOT of accolades and medals, but no purple heart.

Shortly after, stupid Biden pulled out of there, arming the bad guys.

Why did my nephew have to die?

Damn, I didn’t know. I am truly sorry to hear that.

 

[Superman]

Afghanistan we were too worried about civilian casualties. We could have wiped Afghanistan off the map. Vietnam was a cluster all around. We also didn't have today's technology, but the whole military gameplan was terrible. They didn't have a clear objective or a tactical gameplan.

Afghanistan, like Vietnam, was political. unless you somehow think we couldn't have also wiped Vietnam off the map. Polticians will do what politicians do - muddy the waters of facts and lies, then act appalled when things go exactly how they expected it, and subsequently volunteer themselves to fix the problem they orchestrated, only to make things worse. Mix and repeat.

 

[Djfan]

Damn, I didn’t know. I am truly sorry to hear that.

Thanks. We were actually pretty close. We were making bug out plans, he was going to teach me to shoot long distance, and I was going to teach him to hunt. We helped him through a very tough marriage, on and on. It was a huge loss.

 

[Sarge]

Thanks. We were actually pretty close. We were making bug out plans, he was going to teach me to shoot long distance, and I was going to teach him to hunt. We helped him through a very tough marriage, on and on. It was a huge loss.

I can’t even imagine, especially with the circumstances you described. Sounds like a good man. Both of you do. I hope, if you haven’t already, that you find peace. Has to be incredibly difficult. Again, I’m sorry.

 

[Djfan]

I can’t even imagine, especially with the circumstances you described. Sounds like a good man. Both of you do. I hope, if you haven’t already, that you find peace. Has to be incredibly difficult. Again, I’m sorry.

Tnx. We have. It just sucks.

He was a great young man. His home town showed up big for him. Senators sent aides, politicians, generals, etc., were at his funeral. It was impressive and made us ask who he really was to them.

 

[speedicut]

I don't believe he is going to go just wipe out people, but Trump seems to think he can do what he wants. I just think we are inching closer to using military against citizens. I can't say I would be against it in some areas, but it's a slippery slope.

The President is allowed to use the military to protect federal buildings like the ICE facility in Portland under the Insurrection Act.

Yes, the President can use the military to guard federal buildings against attack, but only under specific, legally defined circumstances, as the Posse Comitatus Act generally bars the use of federal military forces for domestic law enforcement. Exceptions are primarily defined by the Insurrection Act, which authorizes the President to deploy the military for domestic purposes in certain situations.
Presidential authorities for military deployment

• Insurrection Act: This is the most significant exception to the Posse Comitatus Act. It permits the President to deploy federal troops within the United States under several conditions:
  • Suppression of rebellion: To put down an insurrection against a state government, if requested by the state legislature or governor.
  • Enforcement of federal law: When "unlawful obstructions, combinations, or assemblages, or rebellion against the authority of the United States" make it "impracticable" to enforce federal law through regular legal proceedings. This is the authority a president might use to guard federal buildings under attack if local law enforcement is deemed insufficient.
  • Protection of civil rights: To suppress domestic violence that deprives a segment of the population of their constitutional rights, when state authorities are unwilling or unable to do so.

Also:

• Defense of federal property: Outside of the Insurrection Act, the Department of Defense has long asserted an inherent constitutional power for military commanders to respond to "sudden and unexpected emergencies" to protect federal property and functions when civilian law enforcement cannot. However, the legality of this claimed authority has never been tested in court. A 1967 Justice Department memo noted that protecting government property was within presidential authority, but suppressing rioting required using the Insurrection Act.