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Charlie Kirk shot from a distance, direct hit

At the venue that was booked 4 months in advance....how odd.
The Coincidence Theorists say nothing to see here while The Pattern Recognition Specialists are like WTH?
 
I think this is pretty damn cut and dry. I see no conspiracy here at all. He should be shot and killed in front of his parents and lover with no blindfold.

My wife is very certain there are no coincidences.
Like Erika's parents working on Iron Dome? And her overseeing an overseas orphanage at like 19 years of age.
 
Like Erika's parents working on Iron Dome? And her overseeing an overseas orphanage at like 19 years of age.
There are real conspiracies and then there are theories and fantasies. I have seen nothing at all that convinces ne for even a second this isn't exactly what they say it was. The internet is a cesspool of fantasies.
 
What would be the reason to assassinate him? That would require such a high level plot carefully pulled off.

The guy went around to colleges and spoke to people. He wasnt high level anything other than reaching a lot of people.

He was no threat to anyone's power. He didn't have any dirty dark secrets to expose.


The why is the biggest question I have.
In this day and age there’s so many nut jobs out there,any reason made up in their head is a reason. Charlie Kirk had a very cut and dried opinion on Abortion. Abortion has brought out violence from fire bombing clinics to murdering doctors ,with also probably 1000’s of individual private situations where violence has occurred. In the early days after Charlie was assassinated I actually thought this would be the reason why. Not to mention of course he was a staunch supporter of Israel.
 
Like Erika's parents working on Iron Dome? And her overseeing an overseas orphanage at like 19 years of age.

At the risk of being called Jizzer LOL...this is all rumor, not fact.

There is no credible, publicly verified evidence that Erika Kirk's parents worked on Israel's Iron Dome missile defense system.

The claim circulating online generally takes one of two forms:
  • That her father, Kent Frantzve, worked for or led a Raytheon division connected to Israel.
  • That he specifically worked on or helped build the Iron Dome system.
Those claims have spread primarily through social media posts, partisan websites, and online discussions. However, there are no publicly available corporate records, official biographies, or reporting from established news organizations that verify them. Reviews of the claim consistently conclude that it remains unsubstantiated and lacks primary-source documentation.

Regarding her mother, there is likewise no verified evidence that she worked on Iron Dome or for Israeli defense organizations. Claims about her employment or business ties to Israeli defense have also not been substantiated with public records.

It's worth noting that Iron Dome itself was developed by Israel, led by Rafael Advanced Defense Systems with substantial contributions from Israel Aerospace Industries. U.S. companies including Raytheon have participated in later production and manufacturing partnerships, but that does not establish that any particular individual worked on the program.

So, based on the available public evidence:
  • There is no verified evidence that Erika Kirk's father worked on Iron Dome.
  • There is no verified evidence that her mother worked on Iron Dome.
  • The claims remain unverified despite being widely repeated online.
 
There are real conspiracies and then there are theories and fantasies. I have seen nothing at all that convinces ne for even a second this isn't exactly what they say it was. The internet is a cesspool of fantasies.
You think his neck stopped a 30.06 projectile from basically a deer hunting rifle? Another "magic bullet." Or that he had not expressed significant dismay at pressure from pro-Israel donors over his platforms and evolving thoughts on Gaza and potential war with Iran which he basically thought would be really bad for us.

The internet may be a cesspool in totality but the official narrative track record through the years isn't aging particularly well.

Frankly, I'm pretty stunned at the lack of inquiry or skepticism about the official story on this forum after all we've seen over the past 10 years. Trump 2.0's flip on Epstein being a nothingburger after half of us thought Trump was freeing the children in the tunnels with the Q psyop for example. Patel and Bongino and Blondie literally crusading that they'd not stop until there was justice for the victims and now nothing to see. Nobody feels played or that things aren't on the up and up? After the lack of transparency or investigation into the attempts on Trump? So, now all of a sudden the institutions are blameless since "we've got our guy in now" and we can all rest easy that the white hats are on it. And another case closed, "lone nut" trial to get through.
 
At the risk of being called Jizzer LOL...this is all rumor, not fact.

There is no credible, publicly verified evidence that Erika Kirk's parents worked on Israel's Iron Dome missile defense system.

The claim circulating online generally takes one of two forms:
  • That her father, Kent Frantzve, worked for or led a Raytheon division connected to Israel.
  • That he specifically worked on or helped build the Iron Dome system.
Those claims have spread primarily through social media posts, partisan websites, and online discussions. However, there are no publicly available corporate records, official biographies, or reporting from established news organizations that verify them. Reviews of the claim consistently conclude that it remains unsubstantiated and lacks primary-source documentation.

Regarding her mother, there is likewise no verified evidence that she worked on Iron Dome or for Israeli defense organizations. Claims about her employment or business ties to Israeli defense have also not been substantiated with public records.

It's worth noting that Iron Dome itself was developed by Israel, led by Rafael Advanced Defense Systems with substantial contributions from Israel Aerospace Industries. U.S. companies including Raytheon have participated in later production and manufacturing partnerships, but that does not establish that any particular individual worked on the program.

So, based on the available public evidence:
  • There is no verified evidence that Erika Kirk's father worked on Iron Dome.
  • There is no verified evidence that her mother worked on Iron Dome.
  • The claims remain unverified despite being widely repeated online.
I appreciate you Snoping me lol but what about Erika appearing in CIA promotional videos in her early 20s? Or is that just normal opportunities for beauty pageant winners to get hooked up with the CIA?

 
I appreciate you Snoping me lol but what about Erika appearing in CIA promotional videos in her early 20s? Or is that just normal opportunities for beauty pageant winners to get hooked up with the CIA?



You're turning me into Jizzer lol. I've been asking ChatGPT. Which should lean to a liberal-leaning answer. They say this is also conjecture.

There is no credible evidence that Erika Kirk appeared in official CIA promotional or recruitment videos in her 20s.

The claim stems from a real video featuring Erika Kirk (then Erika Frantzve), but the available evidence indicates it was not produced by the CIA. Instead:
  • She appears in a documentary called Black Start, which discusses threats such as electromagnetic pulse (EMP) attacks and power grid vulnerabilities.
  • The documentary includes interviews with national security figures, including former CIA Director R. James Woolsey, which has led some people online to incorrectly describe it as a "CIA video."
  • The film was made by an independent filmmaker and has been publicly available for years; it is not an official CIA recruitment, training, or promotional production.
Likewise, there is no publicly documented evidence that Erika Kirk worked for the CIA or that the agency featured her in its recruitment campaigns. Official CIA recruiting videos from that era are separate productions and do not feature her.

So the short answer is:
  • Yes, she appeared in a publicly available documentary in her 20s discussing EMP threats.
  • No, there is no verified evidence that it was a CIA promotional video or that she appeared in official CIA recruitment or promotional material.
 
You think his neck stopped a 30.06 projectile from basically a deer hunting rifle? Another "magic bullet." Or that he had not expressed significant dismay at pressure from pro-Israel donors over his platforms and evolving thoughts on Gaza and potential war with Iran which he basically thought would be really bad for us.

The internet may be a cesspool in totality but the official narrative track record through the years isn't aging particularly well.

Frankly, I'm pretty stunned at the lack of inquiry or skepticism about the official story on this forum after all we've seen over the past 10 years. Trump 2.0's flip on Epstein being a nothingburger after half of us thought Trump was freeing the children in the tunnels with the Q psyop for example. Patel and Bongino and Blondie literally crusading that they'd not stop until there was justice for the victims and now nothing to see. Nobody feels played or that things aren't on the up and up? After the lack of transparency or investigation into the attempts on Trump? So, now all of a sudden the institutions are blameless since "we've got our guy in now" and we can all rest easy that the white hats are on it. And another case closed, "lone nut" trial to get through.

I've felt played by our Government, regardless who's in political power, since I was young enough to watch and care about the news.

I also agree there is lots to this story that doesn't add up. I just haven't seen a conspiracy theory that makes more sense than what we currently know - that Robinson pulled the trigger. It has holes, no doubt. It's just the conspiracy theories have more holes, IMHO.
 
You're turning me into Jizzer lol. I've been asking ChatGPT. Which should lean to a liberal-leaning answer. They say this is also conjecture.

There is no credible evidence that Erika Kirk appeared in official CIA promotional or recruitment videos in her 20s.

The claim stems from a real video featuring Erika Kirk (then Erika Frantzve), but the available evidence indicates it was not produced by the CIA. Instead:
  • She appears in a documentary called Black Start, which discusses threats such as electromagnetic pulse (EMP) attacks and power grid vulnerabilities.
  • The documentary includes interviews with national security figures, including former CIA Director R. James Woolsey, which has led some people online to incorrectly describe it as a "CIA video."
  • The film was made by an independent filmmaker and has been publicly available for years; it is not an official CIA recruitment, training, or promotional production.
Likewise, there is no publicly documented evidence that Erika Kirk worked for the CIA or that the agency featured her in its recruitment campaigns. Official CIA recruiting videos from that era are separate productions and do not feature her.

So the short answer is:
  • Yes, she appeared in a publicly available documentary in her 20s discussing EMP threats.
  • No, there is no verified evidence that it was a CIA promotional video or that she appeared in official CIA recruitment or promotional material.
Who fact checks the fact checkers? Can most Indy film makers routinely get interviews with former CIA directors? She still seems Deep State vibes to me.

This reminds me how we all bury the New York Times or WashPo as a communist rag, but then we quote them when it supports our positions lol! I know I've done it when the broken clocks are right.
 
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The claims remain unverified despite being widely repeated online.
I kind of chuckled at this line and for some reason thought of Trump’s insistence of Obama being born in Kenya.
The Bull-**** that is spread from people you are supposedly to trust and look up to is infinite. And no…I’m not just talking about Trump. They’re all a bunch of liars.

I’ll be 6’ under,but it sure would be interesting to know how the future generations turn out with all these exemplary role models.
 
I kind of chuckled at this line and for some reason thought of Trump’s insistence of Obama being born in Kenya.
The Bull-**** that is spread from people you are supposedly to trust and look up to is infinite. And no…I’m not just talking about Trump. They’re all a bunch of liars.

I’ll be 6’ under,but it sure would be interesting to know how the future generations turn out with all these exemplary role models.
Well when society has been fed official stories like the Warren Commission, cave dwellers with box cutters and finding passports in the rubble, it kinda creates a market for alternatives. For every reaction there is an equal and opposite reaction.
 
I kind of chuckled at this line and for some reason thought of Trump’s insistence of Obama being born in Kenya.
The Bull-**** that is spread from people you are supposedly to trust and look up to is infinite. And no…I’m not just talking about Trump. They’re all a bunch of liars.

I’ll be 6’ under,but it sure would be interesting to know how the future generations turn out with all these exemplary role models.
Obama wasn't forthcoming about his association with Rev. Wright and Bill Ayers writing Dreams from my Father and launching his political career so there were certainly a lot of gaps in his official nativity story.
 
Well when society has been fed official stories like the Warren Commission, cave dwellers with box cutters and finding passports in the rubble, it kinda creates a market for alternatives. For every reaction there is an equal and opposite reaction.

I had to quickly look it up but I remember reading an article about the Warren Commission findings. I couldn’t get past point #1.

The Single Bullet Theory: To explain how both President Kennedy and Governor John Connally could be shot in under 1.5 seconds by a rifle that took 2.3 seconds to reload, the commission concluded a "magic bullet" caused seven wounds across both men. Critics find this trajectory and the pristine condition of the recovered bullet highly improbable
 
I had to quickly look it up but I remember reading an article about the Warren Commission findings. I couldn’t get past point #1.

The Single Bullet Theory: To explain how both President Kennedy and Governor John Connally could be shot in under 1.5 seconds by a rifle that took 2.3 seconds to reload, the commission concluded a "magic bullet" caused seven wounds across both men. Critics find this trajectory and the pristine condition of the recovered bullet highly improbable
Seems like they had one job and that was to "prove" Oswald acted alone and to tamp down the idea that foreign actors were involved which could risk war.

Lord Bertrand Russell wrote an essay at the time I think it was called "16 questions on the Kennedy assassination" or something like that where he marveled at the lack of inquisitiveness from the American media and said it would be left to the American people to seek the truth.

Even when you hear the term "conspiracy theory" bandied about in here that's a direct legacy of the Warren commission/CIA basically creating the term to shame anyone questioning the official narrative. And it stuck in the lexicon.
 
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You think his neck stopped a 30.06 projectile from basically a deer hunting rifle? Another "magic bullet." Or that he had not expressed significant dismay at pressure from pro-Israel donors over his platforms and evolving thoughts on Gaza and potential war with Iran which he basically thought would be really bad for us.

The internet may be a cesspool in totality but the official narrative track record through the years isn't aging particularly well.

Frankly, I'm pretty stunned at the lack of inquiry or skepticism about the official story on this forum after all we've seen over the past 10 years. Trump 2.0's flip on Epstein being a nothingburger after half of us thought Trump was freeing the children in the tunnels with the Q psyop for example. Patel and Bongino and Blondie literally crusading that they'd not stop until there was justice for the victims and now nothing to see. Nobody feels played or that things aren't on the up and up? After the lack of transparency or investigation into the attempts on Trump? So, now all of a sudden the institutions are blameless since "we've got our guy in now" and we can all rest easy that the white hats are on it. And another case closed, "lone nut" trial to get through.
Yes, being married to a nurse and my daughter being a nurse I absolutely believe it can happen. They have seen some pretty weird **** and I have read war histories with all kinds of crazy things with bullets. I consider my myself pretty rationale sports aside, and I think some of you just have to see conspiracies everywhere. In the end it detracts from the real conspiracies as you cry wolf way too often.
 
Yes, being married to a nurse and my daughter being a nurse I absolutely believe it can happen. They have seen some pretty weird **** and I have read war histories with all kinds of crazy things with bullets. I consider my myself pretty rationale sports aside, and I think some of you just have to see conspiracies everywhere. In the end it detracts from the real conspiracies as you cry wolf way too often.
We live in a combination of the post-911 world and the post-Covid world backlit by the Epstein class.. Two psyops that literally changed the world we live in. Many are still asleep even after going through in real time.

Conspirators built that.
 
Who fact checks the fact checkers? Can most Indy film makers routinely get interviews with former CIA directors? She still seems Deep State vibes to me.

This reminds me how we all bury the New York Times or WashPo as a communist rag, but then we quote them when it supports our positions lol! I know I've done it when the broken clocks are right.

I'm not saying it is right. Just saying to claim she did this isn't 100% verified.
 
We live in a combination of the post-911 world and the post-Covid world backlit by the Epstein class.. Two psyops that literally changed the world we live in. Many are still asleep even after going through in real time.

Conspirators built that.
We may both be conservative but we have far different views of many world events. I am very aware of many of these theories and have done some deep dives into them. I find many of them entirely lacking or simply fantasies. Sadly these overshadow the things we should be all fighting against together like much of the Covid issues. Even there people mix some crazy fantasies into the valid conspiracies.
 
We may both be conservative but we have far different views of many world events. I am very aware of many of these theories and have done some deep dives into them. I find many of them entirely lacking or simply fantasies. Sadly these overshadow the things we should be all fighting against together like much of the Covid issues. Even there people mix some crazy fantasies into the valid conspiracies.
You start to wonder about patterns. When Lindsey Graham's death was announced after and upon his return from MIC official business in Ukraine visiting the drone manufacturing plant, my first thought was GA Congressman Larry McDonald who was eliminated by the Soviets aboard KAL 007 in 1983. LM was the head of the John Birch Society and had started an organization called Western Goals which gathered intel on subversives in the US. In essence, he was visibly the foremost anti-communist in the world at the time aside from Reagan of course. Does anybody think he "just happened" to be on the KAL "007" flight shot down by the Soviets?



When Trump got Maduro, he mentioned the "discombobulator" which could disable or kill opposing forces by inducing heart attacks. LG had talked about Cuba being next and argued for total war in Gaza akin to the decision to drop the A-bombs on Japan. We along with the Israelis just killed a bunch of Iranian leadership and kidnapped Maduro. So, yes, I wonder if this could have been blowback? Or maybe he really did just simply have an aortic dissection when he returned. But past is prologue many times, so I account for the possibility which maybe to you seems like "believing every conspiracy theory" but no, it's just accounting for human nature in the fallen world we live in.
 
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