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College Football Week 10

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A few words about this thread. It's pretty simple. I look at the top 25 and pick out the games that are important (ranked vs ranked) or are interesting for some other reason (rivalry, possible entertaining matchup, draft prospects).

Am i biased against the SEC? No. I just don't pimp them like most of the college football coverage does so rational criticism seems like hate. I do hate Michigan though.

Why do i not mention many SEC games? Because so many of them suck. Case in point Georgia vs Missouri this week. What's intersting about that game at all? Same with Bama. How many games per year do they play that are competitive?

One last point. You are allowed to type anything you want in here. If there's a game that interests you that i didn't highlight, you are free to discuss it all you like.

On to the thread

The first college playoff rankings were released and it's no surprise that ESPN, I mean the committee, does not want Cincinnati invited to the party.

1 Georgia
2 Alabama
3 Michigan State
4 Oregon
5 Ohio State
6 Cincy
7 Michigan
8 Oklahoma
9 Wake Forest
10 Notre Dame


What a joke. Georgia is 1 obviously, but there is no possible justification for Alabama at 2. None. Alabama has a loss and they do not have a single win vs a ranked team. So how do you justify them being #2?

There are 2 schools of thought for rankings and having Bama at 2 goes against both.

1. You are going by your opinion of overall talent, guessing on how good they are and not going by actual results thus far. If that's your philosophy then how is Ohio State 5? They have a shitload of talent and their only loss is to #4 Oregon. How is Oklahoma 8? Again, if you are going by talent level, how can they be 8 and undefeated?

2. You are going by actual results on the field. You are not guessing. You are not assuming future wins. By this measure should Bama even be in the top 10? They have a loss and 0 ranked wins. By this measure why would MIchigan be 7? They have a loss and no good wins either. How can unbeaten Oklahoma be 8?

It's clear that ESPN, i mean the committe, is rigging the rankings toward the teams they think will be a draw. That's why they have Mich State so high too, because putting them up there makes it easier to screw Cincy.


Having said all that, Bama may end up deserving of a playoff spot by the end. But what's the point of having these weekly rankings if you are going to ignore what happens on the field?


Now the games

22 Penn State at Maryland 3:30 FS1 PSU -10 O/U 56
Penn State came up short vs Ohio State but they had a real shot to win. Clifford was close to healthy and the difference was night and day. The PSU defense is legit. They may have the best overall secondary in the nation this year.

This is a huge game for Maryland. They view PSU as a must win for recruiting. It's important for PSU for the same reason. The Maryland DC area has talent.

last year Penn State's defense gave up a bunch of big plays due to miscommunication and blown coverages. They have that fixed this year and it could be a long day. Maryland has offensive weapons but they also committ a lot of turnovers. Their run defense stinks. Penn State may actually be able to run the ball this week.



5 Ohio State at Nebraska 12:00 FOX OSU -14.5 O/U 67.5
If Nebraska gets blow out could this be the end for Scott Frost? They hired his pal Trev Alberts as AD and it seemed that might buy Frost at least another year but they are 3-6 with OSU, @Wisconsin and Iowa left. They could be looking at 3-9. Nebraska did get up to give Oklahoma a game. OSU just has to avoid the letdown after beating Penn State.


9 Wake Forest at North Carolina 12:00 ABC UNC -2.5 O/U 77
NC's offense last year went through their 2 great RBs Javonte Williams and Michael Carter. Without them it's not the same. QB Sam Howell is still seen as a potential franchise QB. That may be because it's a weak class.


Liberty at 16 Ole Miss 12:00 SEC Network Miss -9.5 O/U 67
This game is all about QBs and the draft. Matt Corral at Ole Miss and Malik Willis at Liberty are 2 of teh top prospects. Most eyes will be on Willis as this is the only game he will play vs a ranked opponent unless Liberty lands a good bowl.


3 Michigan State at Purdue 3:30 ABC MSU -3 O/U 53.5
this could be a classic letdown game for MSU after coming off their big win vs Michigan and getting love from the playoff committee, they could be looking past Purdue. Purdue coach Jeff Brohm has done an amazing job. I wonder if he will get some offers this year. Purdue has a great DE who could be a first rounder George Karlaft. He may force some turnovers. But MSU may be able to just run to victory.


Tulsa at 6 Cincinnati 3:30 ESPN2 Cin -22.5 O/U 55
apparently Cincy has to try to blow out every opponent by 80 to get respect. That's the spirit of college athletics that the playoff committe endorses.


13 Auburn at 14 Texas A&M 3:30 TAM -4.5 O/U 49.5
The only matchup of 2 ranked teams this week. After an early season loss to superior Big 10 talent, Auburn has done well playing their soft conference schedule. The game will feature 2 of the best RBs Bigsby for Auburn and Spiller for TAM. If the steelers were in need of a RB, i'd consider watching some of this during the commercials of the PSU game


LSU at 2 Alabama 7:00 ESPN Bama -28.5 O/U
the wheels have come off at LSU. Their coach is already fired. There is talent on the team but who knows if they're motivated to play.


Indiana at 7 Michigan 7:30 FOX Mich -20.5 O/U 51
everything broke right for Indiana last year. This year is the opposite with bad bounces and injuries. Indiana's run defense has been decent. Can they play a complete game? Probably not.
 
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Thanks Tape. One of my favorite threads of the week. I always look forward to it and use it as a guide.

I cannot believe Wake Forest is #9, I watch this team frequently because I lived in Winston Salem for years, and I always pull for the Home Town team.

Wake plays an interesting brand of football and they score a lot of points, Their QB Sam Hartman runs the RPO masterfully. That said, WFU never has the lines to compete against the big boys of college football. In the past they could be having a good year and then they would run up against Frank Beamers VT Teams and they would provide the beatdown.

I will enjoy the game between Wake & Carolina, it should be entertaining and I expect Wake to win because their Sam (Hartman) QB is playing much better than Carolina's overhyped Sam.

They keep on winning........but #9??

I believe they can beat Cincinnati but would struggle with OSU
 
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Okaaay...I'm glad you got that off your chest. Tape, you are my respected friend and you made me laugh so hard this morning I want to just say, 'thank you'!!!

Berm's unbiased analysis (on the top 10):

1 Georgia - no questions here - clearly the best undefeated college football team in the nation. Period.
2 Alabama - your unfiltered assessment of Bama gave me more than a chuckle. Look at the list below. Line anyone one of them up against Bama on a Saturday. Result. Bama wins and none will be close games. That's a fact.
3 Michigan State - Are they better than OSU right now? I'm not 100% sure but taking down Big Blue helps this narrative.
4 Oregon - This team lost early and they're still playing w/o their best defensive player. Personally, I'd put the Bearcats here.
5 Ohio State - oSU is oSU. Clearly better than everyone from #7 thru #10. Hopefully they make it to make up for last year's performance.
6 Cincy - I said it already. I think the Bearcats should be #4.
7 Michigan - If it were me---Michigan would be sitting at #9.
8 Oklahoma - can't argue w/ this spot for the Sooners. Too many close games this year.
9 Wake Forest - Hmmm...I haven't watched one WF game this season but my gut says this is probably right.
10 Notre Dame - Hell no. Liberty or Texas A&M would be here.

The game to watch THIS WEEK is Liberty vs. Ole Miss. The game will be on the SECN and we will finally see what Malik can do against top tier talent. He's thrown a lot of INT's thus far but these two QB's will be the top of the class in the draft this year. Supposedly at least 25 NFL teams will have representation at the game today...
 
Thanks Tape. One of my favorite threads of the week. I always look forward to it and use it as a guide.

I cannot believe Wake Forest is #9, I watch this team frequently because I lived in Winston Salem for years, and I always pull for the Home Town team.

Wake plays an interesting brand of football and they score a lot of points, Their QB Sam Hartman runs the RPO masterfully. That said, WFU never has the lines to compete against the big boys of college football. In the past they could be having a good year and then they would run up against Frank Beamers VT Teams and they would provide the beatdown.

I will enjoy the game between Wake & Carolina, it should be entertaining and I expect Wake to win because their Sam (Hartman) QB is playing much better than Carolina's overhyped Sam.

They keep on winning........but #9??

I believe they can beat Cincinnati but would struggle with OSU
I went to high school with a guy who played basketball at Wake Forest. Harvey Hale.


Now onto football. My Dawgs should smoke mizzou. A lot of drama with a starting LB facing rape allegations however. Should be good experience for the depth of this team.

Will JT get reps today? Who knows?

I like how espn gameday actually ripped into the playoff committee. I do think Cincy belongs top 4
 
Penn State has several players who could be on the steelers radar

Jaquan Brisker - Safety - very smart player, a leader. can play in the box vs the run or drop in coverage. Has covered the slot as well.
Joey Porter Jr CB - very athletic, tall with freakishly long arms. still improving, plays with confidence
Jahan Dotson WR - he reminds me of Emmanuel Sanders. A great slot or outside WR with RAC and return ability
PJ Mustipher DT/NT - lost for the season, but he had really stepped up his game. A big guy who has enough athleticism to move.
DE/OLB - Arnold Ebiketie - transfer from Temple and he's been great. Not a star like Watt but can be a great #2 that can play run and pass
ILB Brandon Smith - plays outside and PSU but would be ILB for steelers. Athletic and versatile and could be replacement if the are down on Bush
 
Penn State has several players who could be on the steelers radar

Jaquan Brisker - Safety - very smart player, a leader. can play in the box vs the run or drop in coverage. Has covered the slot as well.
Joey Porter Jr CB - very athletic, tall with freakishly long arms. still improving, plays with confidence
Jahan Dotson WR - he reminds me of Emmanuel Sanders. A great slot or outside WR with RAC and return ability
PJ Mustipher DT/NT - lost for the season, but he had really stepped up his game. A big guy who has enough athleticism to move.
DE/OLB - Arnold Ebiketie - transfer from Temple and he's been great. Not a star like Watt but can be a great #2 that can play run and pass
ILB Brandon Smith - plays outside and PSU but would be ILB for steelers. Athletic and versatile and could be replacement if the are down on Bush
The same could be said for any team in CFB LOL!

Back to the Liberty game...

Liberty's OL will work hard today. Malik has a strong arm - flick-of-the-wrist strong!
 
I hope Purdue gets it done this afternoon. Jeff Brohm was my alma mater's head coach for a few years. Western Kentucky is essentially a football factory. I'm not sure why we ain't getting any love from the committee.
 
when teams like Nebraska are struggling, they tend to either go in the tank, or they fight like hell out of desperation. OSU better not let Nebraska stay in this or it will be a fight.
 
Coach Freeze is crazy...his FG kicker's longest attempt was under 40 yards. So, yeah, let's trot him out to attempt a 54 yarder!!!

Time to start drinking...
 
when teams like Nebraska are struggling, they tend to either go in the tank, or they fight like hell out of desperation. OSU better not let Nebraska stay in this or it will be a fight.
I don't see Nebraska holding on for long but you never know. Buckeye must be sleeping...:biggrin-new:
 
Nebraska doesn't suck. I think they are a pretty good team when they're playing well. They've just had trouble finishing. They should have beaten MSU and could/should have beaten Michigan.
 
Watching Army/Air Force and Gen Milley is talking. I'm surprised it didn't announce it's preferred pronouns before speaking.
 
Liberty is gonna get blown out. They are now feeling the reality of playing SEC football.

Ole Miss 17-0
 
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