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Covid Vaccine

Do we have to go into an explanation of VAERS again? This is stupid. VAERS is an open reporting system…reports are voluntary and unverified. Millions of people got the covid vaccine all in a short period of time. In addition VAERS was heavily publicized at the time…most people had probably never even heard of VAERS before covid. The fact that VAERS received a lot of reports of miscarriage after covid vaccine is not proof of causation. Anywhere from 10-26% of all pregnancies end in miscarriage.
To prove causation you’d have to show that miscarriage rates were higher in vaccinated women than unvaccinated women. Multiple studies have shown that isn’t the case.
Can you link to the studies of the mRNA vaccines on pregnant women before they were authorized for pregnant women?
A whole lot of mixed studies here. Whi h ones agree with pFauci's concerns?
Student writer, not a study
Don't understand the utility of an Iranian study into vaccines not widely available in the west, and that didn't include the EUA shots in the US or the mRNA shots.
It is weird to note that this study suggests that miscarriages are about 5% in the normal population, while the bizarre one you cited at the top uses 9% as normal.

Which is it, or are researchers allowed to move the goalposts to fit their data, like the folks a pFucking pFraudulent pFizer did?
 
I don’t believe anyone should have been forced to take a vaccine.
Agreed. My body, my choice, with informed consent.
That said, the vaccine prevented many deaths. Unvaccinated people were more likely to die. Multiple studies prove this. While immunity waned over time and it was not effective at preventing infection, it was not without benefit and not particularly dangerous.

This summary study from a few folks at a few Caribbean "medical schools" using reported Covid deaths as the primary outcome. Since we know many, many Covid death numbers were exaggerated, especially early on as hospital funding was tied to Covid experience, how could this be useful? It's clear how it could overstate early Covid deaths, but there was no consideration.
Large clinical trials did not show ivermectin to be effective in treating covid. Ivermectin is not particularly dangerous when properly prescribed and taken, however it can be in incorrect doses not under a doctor’s supervision. It is not a “vaccine” for anything. It’s an anti-parasitic drug. Basically something that kills worms and parasites.

3 days of low dose ivermectin to a group of about 100 Brazilians. That does not seem large.
From 2017 debating about one of the safest drugs ever developed that won a Nobel Prize. Great logic.
 
I don’t believe anyone should have been forced to take a vaccine.

That said, the vaccine prevented many deaths. Unvaccinated people were more likely to die. Multiple studies prove this. While immunity waned over time and it was not effective at preventing infection, it was not without benefit and not particularly dangerous.


Large clinical trials did not show ivermectin to be effective in treating covid. Ivermectin is not particularly dangerous when properly prescribed and taken, however it can be in incorrect doses not under a doctor’s supervision. It is not a “vaccine” for anything. It’s an anti-parasitic drug. Basically something that kills worms and parasites.


The mRNA product, sorry, I refuse to call it a vaccine, because in the traditional sense it is not. Anyway, yes, it was of benefit, but only to a specific segment of the population, the elderly, and even then, without them also having comorbidities, I could argue ruling out age as a factor alone.

As far as ivermectin goes, I agree people should not have rushed off the local feed & grain supply to pick it up. I do believe, or would like to believe, that those looking for an alternative to a ventilator would have enough sense to seek out medical advice before using it.

Did it save lives, sure, did it cause harm to some that were forced or at least coerced into taking it, you bet.
This "vaccine" has the distinction of being the least effective and most harmful "vaccine" in the history of actual vaccines.

One last thing, I do agree with you that the 82% miscarriage rate is misleading, however even Fauci admitted that it caused an increase in cytokines increasing the possibility of miscarriage. If this is the case, and it appears that there was concern about it, then the percent of miscarriages would have to be higher, if even slightly higher than normal, and for that he should be held accountable.
 
I don’t believe anyone should have been forced to take a vaccine.

That said, the vaccine prevented many deaths. Unvaccinated people were more likely to die. Multiple studies prove this. While immunity waned over time and it was not effective at preventing infection, it was not without benefit and not particularly dangerous.


Large clinical trials did not show ivermectin to be effective in treating covid. Ivermectin is not particularly dangerous when properly prescribed and taken, however it can be in incorrect doses not under a doctor’s supervision. It is not a “vaccine” for anything. It’s an anti-parasitic drug. Basically something that kills worms and parasites.


Blue - Maybe.......? As Trog likes to point out, I'm no doctor/pharmacist/biologist/etc. I believe it MAY have helped those with comorbidities. But I also believe it was overblown for reasons I still can't comprehend or fathom.

Red - Again, NOT commenting on Ivermectin's effectiveness with COVID. I plainly stated that. It just made zero sense that it was demonized by the CDC and media and Fauci the way it was during COVID.

They demonized exercise, getting sunlight, and proper nutrition as well. Lots of stuff that simply didn't pass the common sense test. The same puzzling reasons they would try and pretend vaccination would be better than natural immunity. Retarded statements were made and parroted. I just don't know the exact and specific reasons behind them. We can all speculate, but we'll never know for sure because.......government.
 
Like you ignoring that truth has become stranger than fiction.



You just equated someone not being able to grasp a point with someone ignoring something.

You really do suck at this.
 
You just equated someone not being able to grasp a point with someone ignoring something.

You really do suck at this.
And of course, Hypocrite Jones himself posted a social media video of NOT A DOCTOR talking about things concerning the human body.
He's too stupid to realize he contradicts himself constantly.
 
 
Blue - Maybe.......? As Trog likes to point out, I'm no doctor/pharmacist/biologist/etc. I believe it MAY have helped those with comorbidities. But I also believe it was overblown for reasons I still can't comprehend or fathom.

Red - Again, NOT commenting on Ivermectin's effectiveness with COVID. I plainly stated that. It just made zero sense that it was demonized by the CDC and media and Fauci the way it was during COVID.

They demonized exercise, getting sunlight, and proper nutrition as well. Lots of stuff that simply didn't pass the common sense test. The same puzzling reasons they would try and pretend vaccination would be better than natural immunity. Retarded statements were made and parroted. I just don't know the exact and specific reasons behind them. We can all speculate, but we'll never know for sure because.......government.
I’m not sure how ivermectin was demonized, other than telling people they should not take it for covid and should not buy it from veterinary sources to consume as humans. I don’t recall anyone demonizing sunlight exercise or proper nutrition. No one thinks those things are bad, nor are they cures for contagious viruses.
 
That said, the vaccine prevented many deaths. Unvaccinated people were more likely to die. Multiple studies prove this. While immunity waned over time and it was not effective at preventing infection, it was not without benefit and not particularly dangerous.
Here's the problem I have. It went from "If you get the vaccine, you will not get Covid" to "If you get the vaccine, you will not spread covid" to "Vaccinated immunity is better than natural immunity" to "If you get the vaccine, you are less likely to catch covid" to "Even though you are vaccinated, you can still catch and spread covid" to "Well, vaccinated people were less likely to end up in the hospital." Hell, they even changed the definition of the word "vaccine" becuase of this gene therapy debacle. That inspires confidence.

How does that happen? Well, maybe it's because this "vaccine" wasn't put through the necessary trials to find out just exactly what kind of protections and side effects occurrred after injection.

And still, many wonder why Americans no longer have much faith in their government. Was it lies? I don't know. Seems folks at the CDC and NIH were pretty clueless about the stuff they were demanding people inject themselves with so it's hard to tell. Either way, the Federal government blindly backed whatever Fauci said, because after all, he is the science.
 
The mRNA product, sorry, I refuse to call it a vaccine, because in the traditional sense it is not. Anyway, yes, it was of benefit, but only to a specific segment of the population, the elderly, and even then, without them also having comorbidities, I could argue ruling out age as a factor alone.

As far as ivermectin goes, I agree people should not have rushed off the local feed & grain supply to pick it up. I do believe, or would like to believe, that those looking for an alternative to a ventilator would have enough sense to seek out medical advice before using it.

Did it save lives, sure, did it cause harm to some that were forced or at least coerced into taking it, you bet.
This "vaccine" has the distinction of being the least effective and most harmful "vaccine" in the history of actual vaccines.

One last thing, I do agree with you that the 82% miscarriage rate is misleading, however even Fauci admitted that it caused an increase in cytokines increasing the possibility of miscarriage. If this is the case, and it appears that there was concern about it, then the percent of miscarriages would have to be higher, if even slightly higher than normal, and for that he should be held accountable.
Any vaccine can cause a cytokine storm. It is a rare immune system overreaction. From that perspective yes it’s possible for a vaccine to indirectly induce a miscarriage. But it’s rare. And again, pregnant women were a high risk group from covid itself, like all medical interventions it’s risk vs. benefit.
Where is the actual data that this is the most harmful vaccine in the history of vaccines? I haven’t found it, and I have looked.
 
Here's the problem I have. It went from "If you get the vaccine, you will not get Covid" to "If you get the vaccine, you will not spread covid" to "Vaccinated immunity is better than natural immunity" to "If you get the vaccine, you are less likely to catch covid" to "Even though you are vaccinated, you can still catch and spread covid" to "Well, vaccinated people were less likely to end up in the hospital." Hell, they even changed the definition of the word "vaccine" becuase of this gene therapy debacle. That inspires confidence.

How does that happen? Well, maybe it's because this "vaccine" wasn't put through the necessary trials to find out just exactly what kind of protections and side effects occurrred after injection.

And still, many wonder why Americans no longer have much faith in their government. Was it lies? I don't know. Seems folks at the CDC and NIH were pretty clueless about the stuff they were demanding people inject themselves with so it's hard to tell. Either way, the Federal government blindly backed whatever Fauci said, because after all, he is the science.
Totally agree that the way it was rolled out and the communication rightly caused people to lose trust. And as I’ve mentioned in the end it was not a super effective vaccine for many people, and many people were forced to take it who didn’t even need it. That’s wrong. I just don’t agree it was harmful or deadly. Are there uncommon risks and side effects? Yes. Like every other medical intervention from Tylenol to antibiotics.
 
Totally agree that the way it was rolled out and the communication rightly caused people to lose trust. And as I’ve mentioned in the end it was not a super effective vaccine for many people, and many people were forced to take it who didn’t even need it. That’s wrong. I just don’t agree it was harmful or deadly. Are there uncommon risks and side effects? Yes. Like every other medical intervention from Tylenol to antibiotics.
flog disputes this to the core of zer feminist beliefs. this was a holy vaccine, brought down from the heavens by pfauci himself, that usurped gold, frankincense and myrrh. this was the undisputable holiest vaccine ever created by god (pFauci) herself and the one-size fits all was as holy as the koran wrapped in bacon. watch your words, heathen woman. watch. your. words.
 
Any vaccine can cause a cytokine storm. It is a rare immune system overreaction. From that perspective yes it’s possible for a vaccine to indirectly induce a miscarriage. But it’s rare.
Yes, vaccines directly cause cytokine production, as this is a fundamental mechanism by which they stimulate protective immunity.

Why Vaccines Trigger Cytokines
When a vaccine is injected, your body recognizes the components (the antigen) as a foreign threat. Immune cells called macrophages and dendritic cells rush to the injection site, engulf the antigen, and release chemical messengers known as cytokines. This process is essential because cytokines act as a cellular alarm system, directing other immune cells to create antibodies and build long-term memory against the target pathogen.
Types of Cytokines Released
Vaccines typically trigger a transient, coordinated release of specific inflammatory and signaling cytokines, including:
Interferon-gamma (IFN-γ): Essential for stimulating T-cells to target virus-infected cells.
Interleukin-6 (IL-6) and Tumor Necrosis Factor-alpha (TNF-α): Orchestrate systemic defense mechanisms.
Interleukin-2 (IL-2): Promotes the growth and expansion of T-cells.
Chemokines (e.g., CXCL10, MCP-1): Recruit more immune cells to the injection site.

What This Feels Like
The localized surge of cytokines is the primary reason people experience mild, temporary side effects after vaccination. These side effects are clinical evidence that your immune system is working exactly as intended:

Local inflammation: Redness, swelling, and soreness at the injection site.
Systemic symptoms: Fever, muscle aches, chills, fatigue, and headaches.

The Role of Vaccine Ingredients
Different vaccine designs stimulate cytokines through different pathways:
Adjuvants: Ingredients used in traditional vaccines (like aluminum salts or oil-in-water emulsions) are specifically added to boost cytokine production and prolong the immune response.
mRNA Vaccines: The lipid nanoparticles (LNPs) used to protect the mRNA act as natural adjuvants, signaling the innate immune system to produce robust levels of IL-1β and IL-6.

While a mild increase in cytokines is necessary and safe, extremely rare complications can occur if the immune system overreacts, leading to a hyper-inflammatory response or an atypical "cytokine storm". However, for the vast majority of people, cytokine production drops back to baseline levels within a few days once the immune memory has been established

Cytokine storm:

A cytokine storm is a severe, life-threatening immune reaction where the body releases an excessive amount of signaling proteins called cytokines into the blood too quickly. This overactivation causes aggressive, widespread inflammation that can damage tissues and lead to multi-organ failure.
Common Causes
Infections: Severe viral or bacterial illnesses like COVID-19, avian influenza (bird flu), and SARS.
Autoimmune Conditions: Flare-ups of diseases like lupus or Still's disease.
Immunotherapies: Certain cancer treatments that trigger rapid immune system activation (often referred to as cytokine release syndrome).
Genetic Disorders: Inherited conditions like familial hemophagocytic lymphohistiocytosis (HLH).

Key Signs and Symptoms
High fever and chills
Severe fatigue and extreme weakness
Shortness of breath or trouble breathing
Confusion, dizziness, or hallucinations
Rapid heartbeat and low blood pressure
Nausea, vomiting, or diarrhea
Skin rashes


Hey look up. it actually says that vaccines can cause Covid 19 and other similar flus and stuff. who knew????
 
And of course, Hypocrite Jones himself posted a social media video of NOT A DOCTOR talking about things concerning the human body.
He's too stupid to realize he contradicts himself constantly.
She was posting her own medical advice, now was she?
 
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