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Weather God is mentioned or not makes no difference God is the source of via Natural Law not any government or monarch.
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And at the same time, it is easier to rally people, especially over time, around a common belief in God, or God-given rights. It will be harder in these secular nations where the church is further from the middle of the people.
On Canada:
Canada’s Constitution is partly unwritten. How is that possible? This is possible because the Constitution is “similar in Principle to that of the United Kingdom” which is completely unwritten. The Constitution Act, 1867 states that the Constitution is based on the Constitution of the United Kingdom, which contains unwritten principles and conventions. Courts are responsible for interpreting the unwritten elements. The Supreme Court of Canada has said that unwritten principles are “assumptions upon which the text is based” and understood to be a part of the Constitution even though they are not written in the text.[2] In that sense, the unwritten principles were always there, and the courts are merely describing them.
Some of these unwritten parts are called unwritten principles. These principles do not stand alone as rules. Instead, they “breathe life” into the Constitution and fill in some of the “gaps” in the text. For example, democracy is an important unwritten principle of the Constitution.[3] Courts use this principle as a tool in interpreting the Constitution. Democracy, in part, means that legislatures are elected by popular vote and that citizens have the right to vote.[4] The principle of democracy includes respect for human dignity, justice and equality, diversity of beliefs, and the participation of individuals in society.[5] When courts make decisions based on the Constitution, they can use democratic principles to guide their decisions.
Constitutional conventions are also unwritten. These are political rules, not legal rules. They are not found anywhere in the Constitution. They come from the practices of government officials. Politicians and government officials who do not follow them are not acting illegally, nor can courts enforce them. However, they are part of Canada’s political fabric, and a part of the Constitution. For example, the Constitution states that Royal Assent is required before any bill becomes law. However, it is a constitutional convention that the Governor General cannot use his or her discretion to refuse to give Royal Assent to a bill after it has been passed by the House of Commons and the Senate.[6]
A reasonable post in what's become a clearly unreasonable thread. Tibs and Flog are just freeloading trolls looking to eat and we keep feeding them.
"Assholomio - ooooo'sodomia! Excuse me, do you have a mint? Perhaps some Binaca?"
I don't care what anybody says, that movie still cracks me up.
There are two mitigating biases there.
Australia has a huge land mass and small population… spread is naturally contained outside of cities… just like rural West Virginia… who trust me said **** off to all mandates and lockdowns, had fewer per capita deaths that superpopulated new york city….
New york and new jersey have the highest per capital covid deaths and the highest population per square mile in the ares with the highest deaths… us cities are much smaller in land mass than typical Australian cities… new york is what? 300 square miles housing 8.5 million people and millions upon millions more commuting in daily… cities in Australia are typically well over 1000 square miles
Australia has 25 million people so over 300 million less than the usa, spread out in a land mass that is like 80% of the US, and mostly isolated from transmission.
The second factor is reporting biases. Back before this was a big political thing , when spike and i were arguing severity, a lot of stuff was posted about the different standards of reporting each country has… places like italy and tge us always have higher than normal flu numbers while other similar countries would have much smaller numbers… this is because we don’t have a uniform standard for what entails an infection, death, severe case ect…. So some ise processes that bias low ( lets only report cases with a positive test that is lab confirmed) and others bias high (lets assume every case with characteristics of the illness or a positive test are all cases)
Typically you can see this by comparing all infectious diseases numbers in a country to the average…
This is done in a lot of heath care debates to try to standardize data…
As for new yorks per capita cases and deaths….note that while at first cuomo’s administration pumped up covid deaths trying to show how bad the virus was, the numbers suddenly dropped dramatically as soon as he got criticized for how he handled it…
When he was forced out and the new governor took over she released 12,000 new cases that were confirmed cases the government was sitting on… these were not estimates… they were actually deaths by covid that the Cuomo administration had buried for months trying to trim the numbers…
Thats why we don’t trust the data while political people are politicizing it…
(Also does that mean new york had 12,000 people die in a day? Because thats what some from both sides of the arguments here would be advocating instead of the numbers just being withheld or released when politically convenient lol)
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So two takeaways…
1. cramming 8.5 million people into a 203 square mile area is unhealthy and dumb
2. Once more standardized data with all contributing biases acknowledged is proper science
Raw data taken out of context is political science…. Lol
The second thing id like to madly insomniac rant about is fact checking again… so as i posted yesterday, project veritas has turned its attention to the vaccine mandates and is releasing its stuff now.. that is neither here nor there for this rant…
A doctor who supports the anti mandate side has come forward with a fact checker looking for data to counter the video… now this call wasn’t about getting an unbiased take on it, or about finding data that supports or counters the video… they were simply looking to debunk it… and this wasn’t from a news angle… it was specifically for the fact checkers
This is why that aspect of the media… which should be the least biased part that usually concludes that most things are neither confirmable nor debunkable has been morphed into a propaganda machine built on censorship
A doctor who supports the anti mandate side has come forward with a fact checker looking for data to counter the video… now this call wasn’t about getting an unbiased take on it, or about finding data that supports or counters the video… they were simply looking to debunk it… and this wasn’t from a news angle… it was specifically for the fact checkers
This is why that aspect of the media… which should be the least biased part that usually concludes that most things are neither confirmable nor debunkable has been morphed into a propaganda machine built on censorship
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‘Unvaccinated, unafraid’ woman dies of Covid, aged 40
On Facebook, Kristen Lowery had proclaimed herself a ‘free thinker’ who wanted to ‘give a voice to the vaccine injured’
A vocally anti-mask, anti-vaccine woman in California has died of Covid-19.
Kristen Lowery, 40, was the mother of four school-age children in Escalon, California. In her Facebook posts, she proclaimed herself a “free thinker” who was “unmasked, unmuzzled, unvaccinated, unafraid”. In one photo, she held up a protest sign reading “Give a voice to the vaccine injured”.
In September, her sister wrote that Ms Lowery had been hospitalised with the coronavirus.
“My sister, Kristen, is in the hospital fighting for her life against Covid and pneumonia,” she wrote. “My sister has a long life left. We need you here, sissy. Your kids love and miss you so much. Please don’t give up.”
The sister also added a warning.
“I do not care about your opinion on vaccinated or not [sic],” she wrote. “This is not political.”
On 15 September, multiple family members announced that Ms Lowery had died, and a GoFundMe was set up for her funeral expenses.
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Houston firefighter put off getting vaccinated — now he needs new lungs to survive
A Houston firefighter who kept putting off vaccination will need new lungs to survive a weeks-long battle with COVID-19.Wayne Davis caught the coronavirus on the job and has been hospitalized since the middle of last month, but his wife has watched his condition worsen knowing the worst symptoms...
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A Houston firefighter who kept putting off vaccination will need new lungs to survive a weeks-long battle with COVID-19.
Wayne Davis caught the coronavirus on the job and has been hospitalized since the middle of last month, but his wife has watched his condition worsen knowing the worst symptoms could have been prevented, reported KHOU-TV.
"I was vaccinated and I just kept getting on him to go do it," said his wife, Caitlin Davis. "He would say, 'I'll go do it,' and kept putting it off. He just never did it."
The father of three remains ICU at Memorial Hermann Hospital in the Texas Medical Center in desperate need of a bilateral lung transplant, and doctors say he won't survive without new lungs.
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Keep proving the rule by pointing out the exception and selling wolf tickets. Still just a .03% chance of killing a healthy person.‘Unvaccinated, unafraid’ woman dies of Covid, aged 40
On Facebook, Kristen Lowery had proclaimed herself a ‘free thinker’ who wanted to ‘give a voice to the vaccine injured’www.independent.co.uk
A vocally anti-mask, anti-vaccine woman in California has died of Covid-19.
Kristen Lowery, 40, was the mother of four school-age children in Escalon, California. In her Facebook posts, she proclaimed herself a “free thinker” who was “unmasked, unmuzzled, unvaccinated, unafraid”. In one photo, she held up a protest sign reading “Give a voice to the vaccine injured”.
In September, her sister wrote that Ms Lowery had been hospitalised with the coronavirus.
“My sister, Kristen, is in the hospital fighting for her life against Covid and pneumonia,” she wrote. “My sister has a long life left. We need you here, sissy. Your kids love and miss you so much. Please don’t give up.”
The sister also added a warning.
“I do not care about your opinion on vaccinated or not [sic],” she wrote. “This is not political.”
On 15 September, multiple family members announced that Ms Lowery had died, and a GoFundMe was set up for her funeral expenses.
I put this in both flu threads because it's so good.
https://off-guardian.org/2021/09/22/30-facts-you-need-to-know-your-covid-cribsheet/
https://off-guardian.org/2021/09/22/30-facts-you-need-to-know-your-covid-cribsheet/
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Having a huge landmass and small population didn’t stop Sourh Dakota from leading the country over the winter. West Virginia is currently having a huge Covid surge.
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By that logic, healthy people don’t need to wash their hands, brush their teeth, exercise, eat healthy, wear seatbelts, get annual physicals or any preventative exam or procedure. A healthy person could avoid all of those and would still be highly unlikely to die anytime soon.
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Glad you reposted it, first time seeing it. Good Stuff!
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No, you’re the idiot. Trump was GIVEN Remdesivir AFTER being HOSPITALIZED. He baselessly and recklessly promoted taking hydroxychloroquine as a preventative measure. One that obviously failed him.you might think that, but I know for absolute fact that you're a goddamned idiot.
from NPR:
Trump Is Taking Remdesivir. Here's How It Works To Control The Coronavirus
President Trump is on day two of a planned 5-day course of remdesivir. The medication, approved for treating COVID-19, works by making it harder for the coronavirus to replicate within the body.www.npr.org
Trump Is Taking Remdesivir. Here's How It Works To Control The Coronavirus
President Trump, hospitalized at Walter Reed National Military Medical Center in Maryland, is being treated with remdesivir, an antiviral drug made by Gilead Sciences. While the drug hasn't been approved by the Food and Drug Administration, it was authorized for emergency use in May for treating hospitalized patients with the coronavirus.
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You're denser than a fruitcake on the 4th of July. Bless your heart.
Meh, Trog, Tibs and 21 have a right to state whatever they believe. What they don't have a right to do is force others to think as they do, and on this point they can't seem to comprehend that. This virus is as much, if not more so, a political disease as it is a medical one. It's a virus that will never be eradicated, we just need to live with it.
Arguing with true ideolog believers is pointless.
Arguing with true ideolog believers is pointless.
did i mention hydroxy? no. i clearly and emphatically stated remdesivir. but, since you insist on getting a foot in your ***...
Remdesivir, hailed — and taken — by Trump, doesn't work for coronavirus, World Health Organization declares
The World Health Organization on Thursday recommended against continuing to use the antiviral remdesivir to treat COVID-19.
Trump boasted that, thanks to remdesivir, “we’re going to be having some really incredible results” in helping patients.
Again you are talking about a country that uses DCD, that is doctor confirmed deaths, as a reporting mechanism and one that experienced an extremely high flu death rate among the elderly the year previous to covid…there is always a huge dip in deaths in years following an event that kills off the dying population. In 2019 their death rate was high enough that it actually dropped during 2020….
you aren’t comparing apples to apples… if Australia reported like the us, then a significant portion of their cancer deaths would be covid designated, since chemo wipes out immunity we tied many deaths to it here… and they don’t estimate on deaths at home unless an autopsy is done… again unlike here… there are usually 40 to 50k of their deaths that aren’t DCDs there
Think of it like how each team credits tackles differently… if you have the exact same game played in three different stadiums, quantifiable stats like the rush yardages and touchdowns will be identical or virtually identical, but subjective stats will greatly differ based on individual standards
Our cdc usually biases high in an attempt to get all the cases accounted for even if it means adding ones that really didn’t die from the illness… some countries want absolute confirmation before they count the illness in a category which biases it low….
In the rare case where the cdc under biases an illness, like it did with tge swine flu outbreak, it usually has to do with a miscalculation of Ro or morbitity rates… that is to say tgey weren’t looking for the cases so they didn’t find them
In fact it could be because of tge under representation of the last pandemic that this one is biased so high… a simple overcorrection rather than some nefarious conspiracy… but there is absolutely no doubt that the numbers are overall biased high … we have ample officials admitting as much often….
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Flog
No.
The effectiveness of the things you mentioned are proven. The experimental gene therapy is not effective as evidenced by all the “breakthrough cases” has unknown long term side effects and has had more deaths and severe injuries in 8 months than all the actual vaccines combined have in 30 years. all of this is an excuse to impose tyranny using a disease that has a .03% chance of killing you.
FlogManBun,
No.
The effectiveness of the things you mentioned are proven. The experimental gene therapy is not effective as evidenced by all the “breakthrough cases” has unknown long term side effects and has had more deaths and severe injuries in 8 months than all the actual vaccines combined have in 30 years. all of this is an excuse to impose tyranny using a disease that has a .03% chance of killing you.
nuh uh. what about the scientist in utah who confirmed that deaths in a Scotland county were remote and unattainable, yet rona? GOTCHA!
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What does “Orangeman bad bad bad” have to do with that?did i mention hydroxy? no. i clearly and emphatically stated remdesivir. but, since you insist on getting a foot in your ***...
Trump boasted that, thanks to remdesivir, “we’re going to be having some really incredible results” in helping patients.
Remdesivir, hailed — and taken — by Trump, doesn't work for coronavirus, World Health Organization declares
The World Health Organization on Thursday recommended against continuing to use the antiviral remdesivir to treat COVID-19.www.yahoo.com
Trump was criticized for promoting hydroxychloroquin, not Remdesivir.
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It’s not gene therapy. The difference in the case and death rates between vaccinated and unvaccinated is proof of its efficacy.
How does a vaccine definitely have long term side effects that are unknown?