Covid Vaccine
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Why Joe Rogan is so popular. He's a reasonable and articulate guy who doesn't worry about asking the tough questions or discussing the touchy topics. Gupta actually said "yeah, probably" when Rogan said millions and millions of children have been exposed to the Commie Cough. Ya think?
You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.
Let’s see if I have the list correct. I know steel got a good one going.
Energy independent - now Russia has the cards. Hmm
Inflation my lord
Gas prices. jFC
Police are out
Other responders are out
Hospital employees are out
Nursing home employees are out
Airline folks said **** it, take a bus
Grocery stores are empty
Ships are a massing at ports
Freight workers and drivers gone.
But we got .14 cent of that dog baba!!!!! **** Biden and **** you for voting for him.
Energy independent - now Russia has the cards. Hmm
Inflation my lord
Gas prices. jFC
Police are out
Other responders are out
Hospital employees are out
Nursing home employees are out
Airline folks said **** it, take a bus
Grocery stores are empty
Ships are a massing at ports
Freight workers and drivers gone.
But we got .14 cent of that dog baba!!!!! **** Biden and **** you for voting for him.
The situation with SW is so obvious that only a troll would continue to promote this asinine excuse.Floggy say:
Not following Zona (and I'm not saying I'm not dense at times) - but you calling me a troll?
I do troll the trolls here pretty hard.
No, that was a kick to Flog’s baby groin.
Not you Donkey, I see no need to respond directly to our resident trolls, because it does no good.
Imma put this down on your perm’nint rekurd
I hear you amigo. It definitely doesn't help, but they refuse to go away - and the powers that be obviously think they're good for business - so I troll the trolls as hard as I can. We all have different styles and personalities. I personally like to **** with them (sorry DJ for the cuss) as much as I can if they're gonna continue to pollute this place.
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So fewer and fewer flights are being cancelled with every passing day, I suppose most Southwest employees have returned to their jobs?
Delays, Cancellations Continue Tuesday as Southwest Airlines Seeks Recovery
Travel troubles continue for Dallas-based Southwest Airlines Tuesday as passengers endure the domino effect of cancellations and delays.
www.nbcdfw.com
So fewer and fewer flights are being cancelled with every passing day, I suppose most Southwest employees have returned to their jobs?
Delays, Cancellations Continue Tuesday as Southwest Airlines Seeks Recovery
Travel troubles continue for Dallas-based Southwest Airlines Tuesday as passengers endure the domino effect of cancellations and delays.
Keep dancing around the question. Why did SW have to cancel 2,000 flights due to weather when other airlines did not, when there were no weather incidents in those destinations?
We'd appreciate an answer to that question.
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Yes he did, “part of it is not determining this in terms of life and death” then Rogan interrupted and Gupta didn’t finish his thought.
There’s other reasons to get vaccinated aside from reducing the chances that you’ll you die from Covid.
The not-so-friendly skies
Get ready for turbulence ahead. Yesterday American Airlines had almost 300 of its flights canceled, almost 10 percent of its total schedule, far…
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Get ready for turbulence ahead.
Yesterday American Airlines had almost 300 of its flights canceled, almost 10 percent of its total schedule, far more than ANY other carrier in the United States (Southwest remains second), and another 673 delayed. It is no doubt purely coincidental that I have heard from multiple pilots at American this week and that its pilot forums are filled with anger at the vaccine mandate.
It is also no doubt a coincidence that Delta - which has had far fewer problems than the other big carriers - has been the only one NOT to impose a vaccine mandate.
Meanwhile, though they still insist last weekend’s meltdown had nothing - NOTHING, I TELL YOU - to do with their vaccine mandate, Southwest’s executives have dramatically changed their rhetoric about said mandate.
On a video call yesterday, the company’s CEO encouraged employees who don’t want to be vaccinated to apply for exemptions and said he didn’t want anyone to lose a job over vaccinations. Last week, the language went like this: “Failure to comply with the COVID-19 Vaccination Policy will result in termination of employment.” (Still, the mandate remains in place, unless Southwest simply decides to wave through every exemption request.)
Nothing to see here, folks.
Let’s be real: many airline employees are furious with the mandates. Especially pilots. By nature they tend to be conservative self-starters. No one decides to fly planes for a living if he isn’t comfortable with pressure and being responsible for other people (and has an ego, too - old joke: How do you know there’s an F-16 pilot in the room? He’ll tell you.)
They - many of them, anyway - don’t want the vaccine. But unlike most people, they can do something about it. They are inside huge companies with VERY complicated work rules, and they have union protections. And they are aware of the fragility of the system, and not just at Southwest.
Airlines can swing from huge profits to huge losses in months, depending on fuel prices and the overall economy - and that was before Covid travel rules made their corporate lives even more complicated. (No less an investor than Warren Buffett once said he would again never buy them again after a bad investment on them in the 1980s; then he did again, then he sold his positions at exactly the wrong time, after Covid hit last spring.)
Which means the pilots have a lot of leverage, should they choose to use it. A small number of sickouts at a single airline can snarl operations and lead to systemwide flight cancellations that leave tens or hundreds of thousands of people stranded for days. The costs to the travelers caught in the middle of this fight are real - they’ll be stuck and miserable at airports as their vacations are ruined and they miss funerals and weddings and business trips.
The pilots I’ve heard from don’t want that - they didn’t become pilots NOT to fly. But they also recognize they are speaking for tens of millions of working Americans who are furious with the choice the Biden Administration is forcing on them: your right to make medical decisions for yourself, or your job.
So what happens next? The answer may come down to a delicate dance between the airlines - especially Southwest and American - and their employees. If the airlines signal that anyone who wants an exemption can get one, they may keep the anger to manageable levels.
If not - or if the Biden Administration steps in to force the issue?
I leave you with this email from yesterday:
I‘m a paid subscriber and thankful to be so. I’m also a pilot and fly international routes. On our trip back today from Europe to one of the airports in Texas we heard quite a bit of chatter on the 121.5 emergency frequency we always monitor. We figured out that it was people saying “Let’s go Brandon” and in some cases something worse
And we heard this most of the way after crossing the Canadian border. In my 20+ year the frequency has always remained silent. Not today.
Thanks for playing. That is "nothing to give" to have Gupta saying there are "other" benefits, then not describing a single one. Joe interrupted him because Gupta went off script and was dodging Rogan's question. He had to ask the doctor a half dozen times before he got him to.
Less than 500 children out of 74Million have died, all of whom had comorbidities. There is no benefit in vaccinating that population. None. We've been down this road, you've been schooled.
21 Year Old Personal Trainer - FULLY VAXED - Dead from Covid
The vaccines work like a charm.
The vaccines work like a charm.
Guess which Fortune 50 company won't make employees get vaccinated?
Hint: It’s arguably the most science-driven of all.
Intel.
Not only that, vaccinated employees cannot say they do not want to work with unvaccinated employees. (Policy 8.4)
Not only that, Intel FORBIDS managers from asking for vaccination status. (Policy 8.13)
Not only that, Intel ACCEPTS antibodies as a full substitute for vaccination for people who must quarantine after a Covid exposure or for travel requirements. (Policy 1.2)
True story.
Source: https://www.intel.com/content/dam/w...us/en/documents/coronavirus-communication.pdf
20 months in, the New York Times (one reporter, anyway) tells the truth at last
My old college classmate David Leonhardt becomes (as far as I know) the first Times reporter to acknowledge the two great realities of Covid in his VERY widely read morning newsletter:ONE: The vaccines don’t work so good.
TWO: Covid is not dangerous to healthy kids.
“So low as to be difficult to quantify.”
“SO LOW AS TO BE DIFFICULT TO QUANTIFY.”
Yes, Covid’s risk to healthy children is so low as to be difficult to quantify.
Shout it from the rooftops, people.
And wish Dave luck today.
Telling the truth about Covid at the Times is a risky proposition.
SOURCE: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/12/briefing/covid-age-risk-infection-vaccine.html
URGENT: A Southwest Airlines pilot explains why you will not hear anything about vaccine mandates from his union - and why Southwest has more flexibility than it admits to stand up to the White House
The pilot emailed following the first Southwest post today (and provided his SWA ID to prove his identity). He asked that I paraphrase the email.
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URGENT: A Southwest Airlines pilot explains why you will not hear anything about vaccine mandates from his union - and why Southwest has more flexibility than it admits to stand up to the White House
The pilot emailed following the first Southwest post today (and provided his SWA ID to prove his identity). He asked that I paraphrase the email.
Essentially, the union cannot organize or even acknowledge the sickout, because doing so would make it an illegal job action. Years ago, Southwest and its pilots had a rough negotiation, and the union would not even let the pilots internally discuss the possibility of working-to-rule (which would have slowed Southwest to a crawl).
But at the moment the pilots don’t even have to talk to each other about what they’re doing. The anger internally - not just among pilots but other Southwest workers - is enormous. The tough prior negotiations notwithstanding, Southwest has a history of decent labor relations, and workers believe the company should stand up for them against the mandate. Telling pilots in particular to comply or face termination has backfired.
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Again, it was primarily operational issues just as the Union President said. Read any of the various articles, or post a legitimate article confirming that there was and is a walkout causing the cancellations.
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Alex BerensonURGENT: A Southwest Airlines pilot explains why you will not hear anything about vaccine mandates from his union - and why Southwest has more flexibility than it admits to stand up to the White House
The pilot emailed following the first Southwest post today (and provided his SWA ID to prove his identity). He asked that I paraphrase the email.
URGENT: A Southwest Airlines pilot explains why you will not hear anything about vaccine mandates from his union - and why Southwest has more flexibility than it admits to stand up to the White House
The pilot emailed following the first Southwest post today (and provided his SWA ID to prove his identity). He asked that I paraphrase the email.
Essentially, the union cannot organize or even acknowledge the sickout, because doing so would make it an illegal job action. Years ago, Southwest and its pilots had a rough negotiation, and the union would not even let the pilots internally discuss the possibility of working-to-rule (which would have slowed Southwest to a crawl).
But at the moment the pilots don’t even have to talk to each other about what they’re doing. The anger internally - not just among pilots but other Southwest workers - is enormous. The tough prior negotiations notwithstanding, Southwest has a history of decent labor relations, and workers believe the company should stand up for them against the mandate. Telling pilots in particular to comply or face termination has backfired.
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The vaccinated are less likely to get the virus, less likely to spread the virus and have the virus for a much shorter duration.
Educate yourself… or post more Sponge Bob memes.