Covid Vaccine

[Steelworth]

This is the insanity we should be afraid of. Rational thought, supported thought, scientific thought. Shut down. Is there a greater amalgamation of stupidity than The View?

Wow, did they shut her *** down. She wasn't even remotely rude or even challenging their own little narrative, she was just trying to give her story. Bunch of vultures.

 

[ZonaBurgh]

Wow, did they shut her *** down. She wasn't even remotely rude or even challenging their own little narrative, she was just trying to give her story. Bunch of vultures.

What's more worrisome are those clapping and apparently taking medical advice from the doctors on The View. That Whoppie, she's a hell of a doctor!

 

[Confluence]

Nobody knows because once again there were no long term studies yet…

****, there were no short term studies.
The phase 1 and phase 2 clinicals with the earliest study endpoints do not get completed until Nov 22


in 2022!


Then the longer term studies could start, once efficacy and safety were actually established.

 

[Steelworth]

Con may be a sometimes-posting Canadian poser, but he's dead-on about the 4 Phase trial system w/ vaccines.

I don't even know if we're already after #1 and between #2, or way after #2 at this point.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

****, there were no short term studies.
The phase 1 and phase 2 clinicals with the earliest study endpoints do not get completed until Nov 22


in 2022!


Then the longer term studies could start, once efficacy and safety were actually established.

And if there starts being bad side effects and people growing thumbs out of their foreheads, it will suddenly be the Trump Vaccine.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

I just heard yesterday that my daughter, son-in-law, and 4 year old granddaughter all have the 'Rona.

 

[madinsomniac]

****, there were no short term studies.
The phase 1 and phase 2 clinicals with the earliest study endpoints do not get completed until Nov 22


in 2022!


Then the longer term studies could start, once efficacy and safety were actually established.

This is the thing I don’t think people get in general… they assume that when doctors and health orgs say something there has been a ton of research done before they ok anything… the system is pretty corrupt and broken… and politics and money drive too much of our big decisions

There wasn’t time to make sure these vaccines were safe… no mrna prototype has ever been successful… many have had serious side effects or simply didn’t work right.. they rarely reach phase 3 and none has ever passed it…

A completely novel methodology like this should have been tested for a decade or more before giving it widespread release…

No matter what they say, you cant speed up time to prove that they are safe ….

Con may be a sometimes-posting Canadian poser, but he's dead-on about the 4 Phase trial system w/ vaccines.

I don't even know if we're already after #1 and between #2, or way after #2 at this point.

go to the cdc website and look up timeframes for vaccine approvals … once the vaccine is out of laboratory tests, there are three phases of human clinical trials…

Phase 1 can last fron 1-10 years depending on how novel the methodology is and what concerns there are
The other two are progressively larger and last 2-4or 5 years each

So the absolute minimum for a vaccine approval is 5 years…

These vaccines got “approved “ because the faulty logic that instead of doing 100people * 10 years, tgen 1000people * 4 years, tgen 10000 people * 4 years they could just do 90,000 for a half a year… seriously… they ran all three concurrent and nowhere near long enough to see anything outside of immediate side effects

 

[madinsomniac]

No matter how old, two shots of Pfizer vaccine don’t last - study

People’s ages had no effect on the vaccine’s waning, meaning that the vaccine waned for everyone and not just older people.

m.jpost.com

So there is absolutely no doubt that the vaccine wanes… for everyone… and that includes eventually being susceptible to hospitalization and death like everyone else..

 

[madinsomniac]

Wow, did they shut her *** down. She wasn't even remotely rude or even challenging their own little narrative, she was just trying to give her story. Bunch of vultures.

Nothing that offers a different perspective is permitted on that show… its not called “the Views” after all…

 

[JMM]

Pitt was developing something similar early on. It's a bunch of tiny microneedles on a patch. The advantage is you don't need syringes or vials so it's cheaper to ship and easier to store. The size of a small bandaid. Pretty cool. Not sure if this is the same thing or not.

Not sure if anyone here would know but what was the deal with the vaccine gun that they used on us back in the late 60s early 70s? I guess it was for polio but it could have been swine flu, who knows but it left that lifelong circle on your arm. Was that a micro needle application or just a quick way to give the vaccine to the herd as fast as possible? Do you all remember what I'm referring to?

 

[Confluence]

The issue that the Covid shot folks, including governments and the big pharma companies now have is simple.
If the virus onset started in early 2020, they were able to have these " therapeutic shots" constructed and ready for widespread use in about a year. For good or bad.
Now, as we roll into year 3, the question should be: " where is the therapeutic shot/pill for the delta Covid flu strain"?
It is troubling that the booster is the same stuff (lots and lots of inventory on hand globally) that was developed almost two years ago for the other original strain. And even worse that this same stuff is being diluted for the "emergency" need in little kids.
Where is the emergency in little kids?
If there is an actual emergency in older folks, why are we using the same damn tool for a new strain?
What sane medical professional would recommend only one tool against a somewhat unknown virus?

Can anyone show how this isn't big pharma chasing $$$$ abetted by foolish governments caught in last year's narrative, unaware of evolving threats?

 

[JMM]

Natural immunity would be allowing reinfection in both scenarios. People with hybrid immunity have the best protection of all.

Do you have a link to this research? Thanks!

 

[SteelChip]

Not sure if anyone here would know but what was the deal with the vaccine gun that they used on us back in the late 60s early 70s? I guess it was for polio but it could have been swine flu, who knows but it left that lifelong circle on your arm. Was that a micro needle application or just a quick way to give the vaccine to the herd as fast as possible? Do you all remember what I'm referring to?

There are some similarities between that scar and covid.

One of my earliest memories involves noticing a weird mark on both my parents’ upper arms. It’s a small circular scar, no bigger than a dime, that also decorates the limbs of some of my aunts and uncles. Why don’t I have one, too, I wondered, and what does it mean? If you were born before the 1970s, dear reader, you probably know the answer: That scar is a badge of honor conferred by the smallpox vaccine.

Smallpox is frequently cited as the only infectious disease humans have managed to eradicate, with the World Health Organization certifying the achievement in 1980. That’s thanks to a global vaccination campaign the WHO started in 1967. No matter how it was administered, the smallpox vaccine left a crater-like scar in the skin because it involved delivering a live version of a related pox virus into the body. The skin around the injection site could then get damaged and scab over, leaving a scar.

n the U.S., an especially bad smallpox outbreak from 1899 to 1904 led many establishments to ask to see a person’s scar as a type of early vaccine passport, History.com reports. Echoing today’s shenanigans with doctored CDC cards, the anti-vaccination holdouts of the early 1900s even went so far as to “forge” their scars using nitric acid, according to the Los Angeles Times. But with advancements in vaccine technology and intensive eradication efforts, the world saw the last natural case of smallpox in 1975

When vaccination was 'a badge of honor'

www.nationalgeographic.com

I believe I received my 'scar' in the 50's sometime while preparing for my first school year.

 

[SteelChip]

No matter how old, two shots of Pfizer vaccine don’t last - study

People’s ages had no effect on the vaccine’s waning, meaning that the vaccine waned for everyone and not just older people.

m.jpost.com

So there is absolutely no doubt that the vaccine wanes… for everyone… and that includes eventually being susceptible to hospitalization and death like everyone else..

 

[Superman]

What's more worrisome are those clapping and apparently taking medical advice from the doctors on The View. That Whoppie, she's a hell of a doctor!

Whoopie is the picture of health, son.

 

[IndySteel]

 

[Troglodyte]

This is the insanity we should be afraid of. Rational thought, supported thought, scientific thought. Shut down. Is there a greater amalgamation of stupidity than The View?

As you post something from social media.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

As you post something from social media.

Which is a portal to actual content. You know, like in this case a video replay of a talk show interview. That's the content.

Once again, you show you are unable to debate on the merits. Someone provides a writeup that overviews an embedded study that goes against your religion (Liberalism and Tyranny), you attack the source/container, gloss over the content.

Weak and pathetic. But you wear that shoe because it fits.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

I just heard yesterday that my daughter, son-in-law, and 4 year old granddaughter all have the 'Rona.

Sorry to hear that man.

A speedy recovery to all of them!

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

No matter how old, two shots of Pfizer vaccine don’t last - study

People’s ages had no effect on the vaccine’s waning, meaning that the vaccine waned for everyone and not just older people.

m.jpost.com

So there is absolutely no doubt that the vaccine wanes… for everyone… and that includes eventually being susceptible to hospitalization and death like everyone else..

Nuh uh!!!!! /Floggy



Twice yesterday, while watching the news (THE news), they were covering how cases have risen in the US over the past few days. And they used Fauci, on camera saying "The vaccines wane, we know this..."

I just chuckled....duh, erryone knows this 'cept Floggy.

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www.bizpacreview.com

Dr. Anthony Fauci warned on “The Daily, a news podcast from The New York Times, that COVID immunity from vaccinations is waning and that there has been a significant uptick in breakthrough infections, hospitalizations, and deaths while pushing for those already inoculated to get booster shots.

Fauci stressed on Friday that those who are already vaccinated are again at risk. In fact, he stated that all age demographics are now in danger from the virus. Fauci referenced incoming data from Israel, which he contends is a month to a month and a half ahead of the U.S. concerning the pandemic.

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So in summary....

As has been stated all along, these vaccines SUCK at doing what they were supposed to do.

"There has been a significant uptick in breakthrough infections, hospitalizations, and deaths...those who are already vaccinated are again at risk" - Dr. Anthony Fraudci.

 

[Troglodyte]

I mean I really think we need a vaccine for this illness.., it’s definitely more than just a flu if you have anything already wrong with you… i just think that the spike protien plan isn’t working and is potentially dangerous
I keep asking why we haven’t moved on to other options….


Im more afraid every day that five years from now a significant portion of the world is going to be suffering from one of tge potential side effects and the global health crisis is going to be exponentially more serious than covid was…

And again I literally almost died from this illness… and im still more worried about the vaccine

Wyoming, West Virginia and Idaho are all in the Top 5 Current Covid Death Rate, they’re also in the Top 5 Least Vaccinated States.

Like them, you should be much more worried about Covid than the vaccine.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

The issue that the Covid shot folks, including governments and the big pharma companies now have is simple.
If the virus onset started in early 2020, they were able to have these " therapeutic shots" constructed and ready for widespread use in about a year. For good or bad.
Now, as we roll into year 3, the question should be: " where is the therapeutic shot/pill for the delta Covid flu strain"?
It is troubling that the booster is the same stuff (lots and lots of inventory on hand globally) that was developed almost two years ago for the other original strain. And even worse that this same stuff is being diluted for the "emergency" need in little kids.
Where is the emergency in little kids?
If there is an actual emergency in older folks, why are we using the same damn tool for a new strain?
What sane medical professional would recommend only one tool against a somewhat unknown virus?

Can anyone show how this isn't big pharma chasing $$$$ abetted by foolish governments caught in last year's narrative, unaware of evolving threats?

Just for you Flu: https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-11-pfizer-biontech-moderna-profit-analysis.html

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Wyoming, West Virginia and Idaho are all in the Top 5 Current Covid Death Rate, they’re also in the Top 5 Least Vaccinated States.

Like them, you should be much more worried about Covid than the vaccine.

"There has been a significant uptick in breakthrough infections, hospitalizations, and deaths...those who are already vaccinated are again at risk" - Dr. Anthony Fraudci.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Nearly 100 infected, all vaxed, 8 dead.

8 Dead, Dozens Infected With COVID-19 Due to Outbreak at Connecticut Nursing Home

Eight people are dead and just shy of 100 more have become infected with COVID-19 after an outbreak at a Connecticut nursing home.

www.nbcconnecticut.com

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"There has been a significant uptick in breakthrough infections, hospitalizations, and deaths...those who are already vaccinated are again at risk" - Dr. Anthony Fraudci.

 

[madinsomniac]

Wyoming, West Virginia and Idaho are all in the Top 5 Current Covid Death Rate, they’re also in the Top 5 Least Vaccinated States.

Like them, you should be much more worried about Covid than the vaccine.

I’ve already had covid… i also tore my insides open while on blood thinners and i lost a couple pint of blood while on a bpap oxygen machine… i came so close to death that they told my family to prepare for me not making it and several doctors and nurses told me few people survive something like that and they thought i was a lost cause

Im still more afraid of the long term effects of the vaccine than covid… ive read hundred if not over a thousand scientific papers from every angle on this… I don’t think its a good idea to do unlimited boosters on something that has the potential to go sideways each time you get a shot…

I get that vaers data isnt all tied to actual vaccine effects, but there are enough actual cases of problems that are too simular to not be tied to the vaccine that each should have been pulled for more testing already

Im fully fine with getting a dead virus vax… those aren’t much different than getting the virus itself, but i have natural immunity and probably don’t even need that anymore…

Once more about a third of heathcare workers in the covid ward weren’t vaccinated, they just were operating on natural immunity some from over a year ago… and they are fine.