Covid Vaccine

[Troglodyte]

You are tiring.

• I argue the vaccines aren't very good, are waning, losing their effectiveness.
• Your return argument is perpetually that the unvaxed are in more danger than the vaxed.
• Ignoring that the vaccinated aren't protected nearly as well as they should be, nor should they be catching/spreading it.
• Your argument persists that the vaxed are better off than the unvaxed. Which ignores the overall issue.
• The vaccines should prevent spread AND serious illness. You don't seem to care that they don't. Or that these vaccines are not going to end Covid.

You don't touch the point because you can't grasp the point or are simply being an obtuse sheep.

Facts:

• Covid continues to spread. The vaccines have not prevented the virus from spreading.
• An ever-increasing number of vaccinated are infected, hospitalized, or dying. Don't argue it. Fauci's admitted it, the data shows it.
• The vaccines have waned to the point of requiring boosters. Not one, but now a 2nd in trials in areas. If the vaccines worked....they wouldn't require boosters.
• The vaccines now appear to be far weaker against Omicron.

These vaccines have been 1/10th, 1/20th, 1/30th of what we need. What we need is to be rid of Covid (which won't happen), or at a minimum for the vaccines to help prevent spread. Without cases, we have no worries. With a mass reduction in cases, we can live our lives.

The vaccines have let down mankind for being a shell of what they should have been.

The United States' 7 day average for Covid cases is nearly 248,000 per day. The previous high was in January at 255K cases/day.

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The world is seeing it's highest level of cases...EVER. The current 7 day average is over 870K cases. The previous high was 826K cases.

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The vaccines are failing us.

But by all means keep screaming the vaccines work while cases skyrocket and Governments continue to implement faulty measures that do not work.

You do realize, if the vaccines worked, if masking worked, if lockdowns worked...if any of our man-made measures had worked....2 years in we wouldn't be at an all time high in cases for....the...Earth...right?

Yet you advocate wash, rinse, repeat. The definition of insanity.

I ignore your nonsense because if everyone was unvaccinated, like YOU, things would be MULTIPLE times worse. FACT.

You complaining about the vaccines “failing us” is patently absurd. Complain to this Michigan doctor…

Opinion | I’m an E.R. Doctor in Michigan, Where Unvaccinated People Are Filling Hospital Beds

With every shift, I see the strain people sick with Covid-19 put on my hospital.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Steelworth]

Or politics. Sloppy Joe promised something no sentient being understood he actually do - "I'll end the virus."

Speaking of ending the virus - when Biden finally claimed that there's no federal solution to ending the virus - what does that do to the federal mandate of vaccinations?

Honest question. Not a law expert so I'm genuinely curious if there's any recourse whatsoever here.

 

[Steelworth]

Send me the app you use for memes

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[Steeltime]

Speaking of ending the virus - when Biden finally claimed that there's no federal solution to ending the virus - what does that do to the federal mandate of vaccinations?

Honest question. Not a law expert so I'm genuinely curious if there's any recourse whatsoever here.

Don't ask Sloppy Joe. He is good at three things - grifting corruption, eating pudding and sharting. He signed a piece of paper about something-or-other somebody else gave him related to some illness but he has no clue what he signed or why.

However, Sloppy Joe's admission that the Federal government has no authority to bypass the 10th amendment and the traditional function of state governments regarding health-and-safety does not move the ball one way or the other.

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[Steelr4evr]

 

[Steelworth]

XiNN just named Pfizer's President CEO of the year (not that it's of any actual consequence). But how they're still in circulation is a travesty.

 

[Steelworth]

Don't ask Sloppy Joe. He is good at three things - grifting corruption, eating pudding and sharting. He signed a piece of paper about something-or-other somebody else gave him related to some illness but he has no clue what he signed or why.

However, Sloppy Joe's admission that the Federal government has no authority to bypass the 10th amendment and the traditional function of state governments regarding health-and-safety does not move the ball one way or the other.

 

[Hypocycloids]

I ignore your nonsense because if everyone was unvaccinated, like YOU, things would be MULTIPLE times worse. FACT.

You complaining about the vaccines “failing us” is patently absurd. Complain to this Michigan doctor…

Opinion | I’m an E.R. Doctor in Michigan, Where Unvaccinated People Are Filling Hospital Beds

With every shift, I see the strain people sick with Covid-19 put on my hospital.

www.nytimes.com

What you're ignoring is not coming from him, he's only relaying the data.

You're ignoring the facts is what you're really doing.

Btw..I'm not subscribing to that garbage newspaper just so I can read that article.

 

[Steelworth]

 

[Steelworth]

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

I ignore your nonsense

You don't ignore a single, solitary thing I post. I'd consider it flattering, if not for being so incredibly annoying.

because if everyone was unvaccinated, like YOU, things would be MULTIPLE times worse. FACT.

Which again isn't the point you couldn't seem to grasp if it were tattoo'd to your corneas.

WE (sane, rational people) wanted vaccines that would end the pandemic. We got shots that have prolonged it, put a dent in it, and done next to nothing to end it - given we have a world-wide record high number of cases.

You cheer....the pathetic.

You complaining about the vaccines “failing us” is patently absurd. Complain to this Michigan doctor…

Opinion | I’m an E.R. Doctor in Michigan, Where Unvaccinated People Are Filling Hospital Beds

With every shift, I see the strain people sick with Covid-19 put on my hospital.

www.nytimes.com

In other words, you are a fan of pathetic. Pathetic shots disguised as vaccines...you love the lockdowns....you love the fact that Covid is at an all time high worldwide...and piss poor to mediocre is your definition of excellence. You like the fact that we will be heading into year 3 while cases grow, no end in sight. You think it's wonderful we will see 5 shots, maybe 6, be the standard in 2022. To you, this is the definition of a modern medical miracle, shots called vaccines, that don't end a virus like vaccines ended polio and smallpox and the measles. You insist these shots that let Covid run rampant are wonder drugs.

Then again, you're a semi-functioning retard and we live in a world where there are 64 genders so.

28% of Michigan's cases are vaccinated people. Growing. Substantially higher than earlier this year. Those numbers continue to rise...world...wide. You continue to put your head in the sand.

Gotten your fifth shot?

 

[ZonaBurgh]

Anybody with more than 3 brain cells that works in medicine can tell you that an N95 mask, properly fitted, will reduce virus transmission through aerosolized particulate. The fabric masks, "dental masks", gathers, face shields...etc do NOTHING to prevent aerosolized particles. They never have and never will. That is what is so frustrating. Had Fauci, the CDC, the WHO all said from day one that everyone should wear an N95 mask, I would be right on board. The fact that medical professionals kept saying that "any mask" is better than no mask was total bullshit. Once you start lying to the public, don't be surprised when nobody believes anything that you say going forward.

You can likely go back to page 2 and see this addressed.

 

[ZonaBurgh]

I ignore your nonsense because if everyone was unvaccinated, like YOU, things would be MULTIPLE times worse. FACT.

You complaining about the vaccines “failing us” is patently absurd. Complain to this Michigan doctor…

Opinion | I’m an E.R. Doctor in Michigan, Where Unvaccinated People Are Filling Hospital Beds

With every shift, I see the strain people sick with Covid-19 put on my hospital.

www.nytimes.com

I'll give you this, you are a master of deflection. Did you have to go to school for that?

 

[Steeler Pride]

You can likely go back to page 2 and see this addressed.

Yep, or the original Covid thread. 2 years and counting, but anyone that says anything against Fauci or the government is some MAGA conspiracy theorist.

 

[Steelworth]

You can likely go back to page 2 and see this addressed.

No ****, right? Like banging your head against a wall. And nothing against you SP, but these morons with their cloth masks has been like Groundhog day for almost 2 years.

 

[Superman]

The vaccines shots work!!!

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Breakthrough COVID deaths, illnesses mount, as boosters lag in Michigan | Bridge Michigan

Six months after most vaccinations, a quarter of all COVID deaths and hospitalizations are breakthrough cases. Most severe cases, though, are among the unvaccinated.

www.bridgemi.com

The breakthrough cases in MI have risen from 10-15% of all cases to 24-28% of all cases. Success!!

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Meanwhile, the highly vaccinated northeast...New York and NJ and Maine and MA and NH and VT. Just....damn..

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bbbbut its the Trump supporting states where all the rise is be



/FlogSnotBubbleBoy

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

What you're ignoring is not coming from him, he's only relaying the data.

You're ignoring the facts is what you're really doing.

Btw..I'm not subscribing to that garbage newspaper just so I can read that article.

Floggy famous for quoting articles behind paywalls....that he probably hasn't read. He sticks to headlines.

 

[Steelworth]

I'll give you this, you are a master of deflection. Did you have to go to school for that?

He just dons his suit and goes to work.

 

[Superman]

I ignore your nonsense because if everyone was unvaccinated, like YOU, things would be MULTIPLE times worse. FACT.

You complaining about the vaccines “failing us” is patently absurd. Complain to this Michigan doctor…

Opinion | I’m an E.R. Doctor in Michigan, Where Unvaccinated People Are Filling Hospital Beds

With every shift, I see the strain people sick with Covid-19 put on my hospital.

www.nytimes.com

back in your bubble

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

That aged well. Like most Liberal tweets and posts.

BTW, what's up with Klain's face? Like Mr. Potato Head with a sagging scowl.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

I'll give you this, you are a master of deflection. Did you have to go to school for that?

Ritalin

 

[Superman]

Don't ask Sloppy Joe. He is good at three things - grifting corruption, eating pudding and sharting. He signed a piece of paper about something-or-other somebody else gave him related to some illness but he has no clue what he signed or why.

However, Sloppy Joe's admission that the Federal government has no authority to bypass the 10th amendment and the traditional function of state governments regarding health-and-safety does not move the ball one way or the other.

 

[Steelworth]

Forget The Straws, Over A Billion Masks Now Pollute The Ocean

A climate change-obsessed culture dictates that we need to commit every waking moment to investing anxiety in the changes affecting our planet. But,…

www.eviemagazine.com

The climate change activists have been oddly silent on this one.

 

[oneforthebus]

Forget The Straws, Over A Billion Masks Now Pollute The Ocean

A climate change-obsessed culture dictates that we need to commit every waking moment to investing anxiety in the changes affecting our planet. But,…

www.eviemagazine.com

The climate change activists have been oddly silent on this one.

I was wondering after my family did 5 home tests, what happens to all of the nasal swabs with Covid and god knows what else on them? We just threw them away. So I guess they’re all in landfills.

 

[madinsomniac]

The reality is the vaccines did not do what they hoped but they aren't completely useless. It's not because we were lied to it's because they didn't know. Granted, they shouldn't have said they were going to eradicate covid when the truth is, they never really knew that. It's clear they can have some pretty serious side effects in a very small number of people and given that the risk to many people from getting covid itself is low, it should be perfectly valid to question the risk/benefit analysis of the vaccines for some people.

All of this back and forth is basically saying these same things. Everyone is so stuck on their "side" that no one wants to face reality.

The other obvious reality is that the Biden administration has done nothing to prepare for this current surge with a new variant, like increasing testing capability for example, or collecting good early data on variants and their transmissibility and severity like many other countries have done. They aren't studying the effects of natural immunity either on its own or combined with vaccines which could reduce the need for more vaccines which you would think is a good thing.

All this administration seems to care about is pushing vaccines and demonizing people who may have perfectly valid reasons for not wanting to take them. They are so hyperfocused on this one issue they are ignoring every other aspect of managing a pandemic.

Too rational for this forum