we're just going to ignore the fact that water supported Trump?
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Covid Vaccine
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Yep. It's everywhere which means it should peak rapidly and be over soon.
Jc.Deny the problem of Covid hospitalizations all you want.
ICU beds filling up at region’s hospitals as COVID cases surge
Criteria for choosing the hospitals remains unclear.www.post-gazette.com
1. They are short staffed for a variety of reasons, a main one mandate. So they are not functioning at full capacity
2. Nursing homes. Same as above no staff, per law can’t take residents so they stay at hospital bc no safe discharge.
Deny the reasons for the fundamental breakdown for HC we are seeing. Remove mandates, more money into reimbursement rates for Nursing homes and HC - more money to go to labor, better staffing level.
Also new law or order on agency. They are price gouging during an emergency.
because the vaccine works!
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It's actually Liberals that are losing their **** over the CDC relaxing guidelines on quarantining. You might try reading the news.
The actual news here is that once again, the agency that sets health policy for the USA is all over the map sending out again...confusing directives that in the face of what we've been told...make little sense.
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Right? I am all for it. I don't want to stay home for 10 days because I caught a cold, nor do I want my kids who aren't sick at all to have to stay home for 14. It's ludicrous.
But the hypocrisy is unbelievable. Imagine if at the height of the surge Trump got a call from the airlines and two days later revised the isolation numbers down.
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And also, we're going to buy 500 million tests to hand out to everyone, but by the way the tests can't actually tell you anything useful, like whether you have asymptomatic covid. And don't use them to guide yourself on whether you have to quarantine or not.
But the hypocrisy is unbelievable. Imagine if at the height of the surge Trump got a call from the airlines and two days later revised the isolation numbers down.
Liberals will never admit to this point.
Bummer.
That sucks. If we just had vaccines that worked...
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“The vaccine is one of the greatest achievements of mankind… All three vaccines are very good… The vaccines work. If you take the vaccine you are protected… People aren't dying when they take the vaccine” - Donald J. Trump
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He's right that it was a great achievement. But clearly their effectiveness is waning. Is there a new operation to develop a better vaccine, or one that can be tailored to these new variants? I haven't heard of one. I just keep hearing take ever more of these same shots that currently aren't keeping people from getting sick. It's like if last year's flu shot wasn't working at all and they told you "Just take more doses of it" instead of coming up with a more appropriate one.
Some predicted this months ago. This is an article from last January. I am interested to hear what the administration has done to pursue this. I'm sure you'll say it's no biggie though, since it's Biden.
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Does that include "Americans" living in other countries?Bummer.
COVID-19 helped erase 1.8 years from the average American’s life expectancy in 2020, according to the latest federal mortality data, marking the greatest change in the American lifespan since World War II
You do realize that most of us here are rational, thinking beings? Not puppets of one party? And it is possible for us to disagree with points made by people we even support.
Did you ever disagree with your mom or your dad? Your ex-wife?
The vaccines were a great achievement, he was right. So too were the first rockets developed to attempt to get man into space....that failed...but led to greater advancements.
He is wrong saying they are vaccines. First disagreement with him.
He is wrong saying in a blanket statement that they work. There is no either or here. They don't either work or fail. They fall in between. And as OFTB has noted, they are failing over time. They are doing nothing to contain transmission as evidenced by our epic load of current cases. They worked for 6 months. They are failing us now.
He is wrong in saying if you take the vaccines you are protected. Ask Colin Powell and any of thousands of others double or triple dosed that have died. They protect a % of people.
He is wrong when he says people aren't dying when they take the vaccine. Ask Colin again. Look at the recent NM news - 40+% of their Covid victims were vaxed. Look at any state willing to share accurate numbers.
I disagree with "most" of his statement.
I agree with Fauci on one thing though - in contradiction to Trump's statement:
"There has been a SIGNIFICANT uptick in breakthrough infections, hospitalizations, and deaths...those who are already vaccinated are again at risk" - Dr. Anthony Fraudci.
If the vaccines protected the vaccinated, why would the CDC tell the vaccinated to not go on cruise ships?
www.bloomberg.com
CDC Tells Even Vaccinated to Avoid Cruises; Shares Tumble
Shares of cruise operators fell after U.S. health officials said travelers should avoid them even if they’re vaccinated.
www.bloomberg.com
Interesting. Thoughts on these vaccines? Non mRNA vaccines. Could be good news.
www.scientificamerican.com
A COVID Vaccine for All
With proved technology and no-frills tech transfer, CORBEVAX is poised to reach hundreds of millions in the coming weeks
The vaccine works!
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CORBEVAX is made through microbial fermentation in yeast, similar to the process used to produce the recombinant hepatitis B vaccine that many resource-poor countries make and employ.Interesting. Thoughts on these vaccines? Non mRNA vaccines. Could be good news.
A COVID Vaccine for All
With proved technology and no-frills tech transfer, CORBEVAX is poised to reach hundreds of millions in the coming weeks
Seems similar to Novavax. I’ve said many times I’m no anti vax dude. This “new ****” I’m a wait and see and from I’ve seen **** no.
These seem something I’m ok with me getting, my daughter getting given the track record. Will it work? Who knows but what comfortable with is the short/long of them
Edit. I was already forced to get what I didn’t.
Last I saw, they were expecting a mid Jan. peak.
What the media has done.
So we all know where I sit on said fence with this.
I’m a daily gym rat who crushes weights and cardio. ******* hate cardio but I do it. Got a nice pre workout for Xmas and have been going balls deep since. Ramping it up for summer time. Anywho, today I did mad HIIT cardio and my lungs were burning after.
I’m like **** do I got the rona. Ahh. Not that I’m worried about me but then wife and the kid. Take my doesn’t work at home test negative.
But my point, if someone like me who is this is bs still has the thoughts of **** because of what is drill in our brains daily, where ever you look, read, watch, how can a sheep ever I mean ever get past it
So we all know where I sit on said fence with this.
I’m a daily gym rat who crushes weights and cardio. ******* hate cardio but I do it. Got a nice pre workout for Xmas and have been going balls deep since. Ramping it up for summer time. Anywho, today I did mad HIIT cardio and my lungs were burning after.
I’m like **** do I got the rona. Ahh. Not that I’m worried about me but then wife and the kid. Take my doesn’t work at home test negative.
But my point, if someone like me who is this is bs still has the thoughts of **** because of what is drill in our brains daily, where ever you look, read, watch, how can a sheep ever I mean ever get past it
More from the trusted CDC. WTH?
Maybe, but I hear the more deadly Midterm variant is on the horizon.
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Really? Because I heard covid is gonna be over by midterms thanks to Joe Biden's amazing response.