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Covid Vaccine

ZonaBurgh said:
The mortality rate from measles is actually pretty low and was even before the vaccine was developed in the early '60's. That not to say that I don't think the M-M-R isn't a good thing, because I believe that it is. What I find troubling is that even though there have always been years where outbreaks have occurred, even after the development of the vaccine, this particular spike is adamantly being blamed on the "anti-vaxxers", solely, absolutely no doubt about it. If the subject of 20 million unvaccinated migrants flowing in from 3rd world countries is brought up it's summarily dismissed as a possible factor in the current spike of measles cases and once again making this another politically charged, emotionally ladened issue.
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People always talk about mortality rates but rarely mention that measles can also cause severe illness and hospitalization, pneumonia, deafness, encephalitis etc.

Certainly any group of unvaxxed people including unvaxxed migrants will lead to outbreaks. Vaccination rates are dropping and that's not a good thing. Anti-vaxxers share the blame for that.
 
Don't you all think doctors, pharma and hospitals would make a lot more money treating all of these preventable diseases than they do giving vaccines? This is exactly why insurance companies push vaccines all the time. The argument for financial motivation makes no sense.
 
oneforthebus said:
Don't you all think doctors, pharma and hospitals would make a lot more money treating all of these preventable diseases than they do giving vaccines? This is exactly why insurance companies push vaccines all the time. The argument for financial motivation makes no sense.
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no.

Still searching for a ranking of vaccines by safety. Did you ever come across comparative safety data or other for vaccines?
 
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Confluence said:
no.

Still searching for a ranking of vaccines by safety. Did you ever come across comparative safety data or other for vaccines?
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Give it a rest. Again, there is no such thing as a "ranking of vaccines by safety". It would be a meaningless statistic. Morphine likely ranks lower than than Advil for safety, what would that demonstrate exactly? Comparing apples to oranges. You give people with a headache Advil, you give people dying of cancer morphine. You give people with an infection antibiotics, you give people with cancer chemo. You don't say "Morphine is less safe than Advil, therefore we should never use it" or "Chemo is less safe than antibiotics therefore we should never use it". Every medical intervention in existence has its own risk/benefit calculation based on its uses and effects. Vaccines in general have very rare serious adverse events, on par with or probably less than many other common medical treatments that no one has their panties in a bunch about.
 
oneforthebus said:
People always talk about mortality rates but rarely mention that measles can also cause severe illness and hospitalization, pneumonia, deafness, encephalitis etc.

Certainly any group of unvaxxed people including unvaxxed migrants will lead to outbreaks. Vaccination rates are dropping and that's not a good thing. Anti-vaxxers share the blame for that.
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When did I say that they weren't?
 
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