Covid Vaccine

[SteelerInLebanon]

Take it up with bootlicking Stuporman and SIL.

Take what up with us? Your derangement and inability to think for yourself? Your brownshirt tactics? I think Joe Biden may be smarter and have sharper mental acuity than you.

 

[Troglodyte]

Take what up with us? Your derangement and inability to think for yourself? Your brownshirt tactics? I think Joe Biden may be smarter and have sharper mental acuity than you.

Why did you take issue with me saying that you called the vaccines poisonous and genocidal? Do you agree or disagree? Think for yourself.

 

[Djfan]

I just stopped in because we reached a new page in this academic pursuit.

 

[fedderone]

Why did you take issue with me saying that you called the vaccines poisonous and genocidal? Do you agree or disagree? Think for yourself.

Yeah, SIL, why would you take umbrage with someone incorrectly attributing a statement to you?

Trog = Braindead retard with zero cognitive abilities.

 

[Confluence]

Why did you take issue with me saying that you called the vaccines poisonous and genocidal? Do you agree or disagree? Think for yourself.

here you go pFlogtard:

ABSTRACT
Objective To examine the relative impact of the initial series of the messenger RNA (mRNA) BNT162b2 (Pfizer) and mRNA-1273 (Moderna) on all-cause and non-COVID-19 mortality among Florida residents.

Design Matched cohort with cumulative and adjusted assessments of risk over 12 month follow up.

Setting Florida’s state-level public health databases with records about COVID-19 vaccination, sociodemographic characteristics of vaccine recipients, location of vaccination, and vital statistics.

Participants Matched cohort of 1,470,100 noninstitutionalized adult Florida residents receiving at least two doses, less than six weeks apart, of either the BNT162b2 or mRNA-1273 mRNA vaccine between December 18, 2020, and August 31, 2021.

Intervention Initial vaccination with two doses of either BNT162b2 or mRNA-1273

Main outcome measures All-cause, cardiovascular, COVID-19, and non-COVID-19 mortality within 12 months after the second COVID-19 vaccine dose

Results There were 9,162,484 noninstitutionalized adult Florida residents who met inclusion criteria, including 5,328,226 BNT162b2 vaccine recipients and 3,834,258 mRNA-1273 vaccine recipients. A total of 1,470,100 vaccinees were matched 1-to-1 based on seven criteria, including census tract. Compared with mRNA-1273 recipients, BNT162b2 recipients had significantly higher risk for all-cause mortality (847.2 vs. 617.9 deaths per 100,000; odds ratio, OR [95% CI]: 1.384 [1.331, 1.439]), cardiovascular mortality (248.7 vs. 162.4 deaths per 100,000 persons; OR [95% CI]: 1.540 [1.431, 1.657]), COVID-19 mortality (55.5 vs. 29.5 deaths per 100,000 persons; OR [95% CI]: 1.882 [1.596, 2.220]) and non-COVID-19 mortality (791.6 vs. 588.4 deaths per 100,000 persons; OR [95% CI]: 1.356 [1.303, 1.412]). Negative control outcomes did not show any indication of meaningful unobserved residual confounding.

Conclusion Florida adults who received BNT162b2 had significantly higher risk of 12-month all-cause, cardiovascular, COVID-19, and non-COVID-19 mortality compared to matched mRNA-1273 recipients. These findings are suggestive of differential non-specific effects of the BNT162b2 and mRNA-1273 COVID-19 vaccines, and potential concerning adverse effects on all-cause and cardiovascular mortality. They underscore the need to evaluate vaccines using clinical endpoints that extend beyond their targeted diseases.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2025.04.25.25326460v1

 

[Troglodyte]

All ca

here you go pFlogtard:

ABSTRACT
Objective To examine the relative impact of the initial series of the messenger RNA (mRNA) BNT162b2 (Pfizer) and mRNA-1273 (Moderna) on all-cause and non-COVID-19 mortality among Florida residents.

Design Matched cohort with cumulative and adjusted assessments of risk over 12 month follow up.

Setting Florida’s state-level public health databases with records about COVID-19 vaccination, sociodemographic characteristics of vaccine recipients, location of vaccination, and vital statistics.

Participants Matched cohort of 1,470,100 noninstitutionalized adult Florida residents receiving at least two doses, less than six weeks apart, of either the BNT162b2 or mRNA-1273 mRNA vaccine between December 18, 2020, and August 31, 2021.

Intervention Initial vaccination with two doses of either BNT162b2 or mRNA-1273

Main outcome measures All-cause, cardiovascular, COVID-19, and non-COVID-19 mortality within 12 months after the second COVID-19 vaccine dose

Results There were 9,162,484 noninstitutionalized adult Florida residents who met inclusion criteria, including 5,328,226 BNT162b2 vaccine recipients and 3,834,258 mRNA-1273 vaccine recipients. A total of 1,470,100 vaccinees were matched 1-to-1 based on seven criteria, including census tract. Compared with mRNA-1273 recipients, BNT162b2 recipients had significantly higher risk for all-cause mortality (847.2 vs. 617.9 deaths per 100,000; odds ratio, OR [95% CI]: 1.384 [1.331, 1.439]), cardiovascular mortality (248.7 vs. 162.4 deaths per 100,000 persons; OR [95% CI]: 1.540 [1.431, 1.657]), COVID-19 mortality (55.5 vs. 29.5 deaths per 100,000 persons; OR [95% CI]: 1.882 [1.596, 2.220]) and non-COVID-19 mortality (791.6 vs. 588.4 deaths per 100,000 persons; OR [95% CI]: 1.356 [1.303, 1.412]). Negative control outcomes did not show any indication of meaningful unobserved residual confounding.

Conclusion Florida adults who received BNT162b2 had significantly higher risk of 12-month all-cause, cardiovascular, COVID-19, and non-COVID-19 mortality compared to matched mRNA-1273 recipients. These findings are suggestive of differential non-specific effects of the BNT162b2 and mRNA-1273 COVID-19 vaccines, and potential concerning adverse effects on all-cause and cardiovascular mortality. They underscore the need to evaluate vaccines using clinical endpoints that extend beyond their targeted diseases.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2025.04.25.25326460v1

All cause, ALL cause. NON-SPECIFIC effects. POTENTIAL concerning adverse effects. In other words, it may very well be that Moderna was just more effective than Pfizer and helped people with co-morbidities more than Pfizer.

 

[Superman]

So the vaccine being poisonous and genocidal never came up in your conversation with your doctor but you never once disagreed with those on this board who claimed that it is. Why?

correct.
my PERSONAL experience prevents me from suggesting anyone get the shot. Kinda feel differently about things when you have an internal organ trying to kill you.

Now, do tell the class why my stance chaffes your man-made mangina so.

 

[Superman]

All ca

All cause, ALL cause. NON-SPECIFIC effects. POTENTIAL concerning adverse effects. In other words, it may very well be that Moderna was just more effective than Pfizer and helped people with co-morbidities more than Pfizer.

re-read this. slowly. loudly and in a whisper. repeatedly.
once you come to the conclusion of what you just said, you'll then know why you cannot ever call someone a bootlicker again. ever.

 

[Superman]

Not what I said. FAIL.

it is what you said. you wanted a vaccine for a virus that was quite literally just introduced and sprang globally upon the populace in a extremely quick fashion.

 

[JMM]

Since the virus was grown in a lab, I wonder when they started working on a vaccine for it?

 

[Troglodyte]

correct.
my PERSONAL experience prevents me from suggesting anyone get the shot. Kinda feel differently about things when you have an internal organ trying to kill you.

Now, do tell the class why my stance chaffes your man-made mangina so.

You didn’t answer the question. I suggested you believed the vaccine was poisonous and genocidal, why make it a point to deny saying that?

 

[Troglodyte]

re-read this. slowly. loudly and in a whisper. repeatedly.
once you come to the conclusion of what you just said, you'll then know why you cannot ever call someone a bootlicker again. ever.

It’s comparing two vaccines, you idiot!

 

[Troglodyte]

it is what you said. you wanted a vaccine for a virus that was quite literally just introduced and sprang globally upon the populace in a extremely quick fashion.

Nowhere did I use the words “expect” or “want”. You’re flailing so you make up strawman arguments.

 

[Confluence]

All ca

All cause, ALL cause. NON-SPECIFIC effects. POTENTIAL concerning adverse effects. In other words, it may very well be that Moderna was just more effective than Pfizer and helped people with co-morbidities more than Pfizer.

The sample group controlled for that. It means that there were significant adverse events with the pFizer shot that "weren't noticed".

 

[SteelerInLebanon]

Why did you take issue with me saying that you called the vaccines poisonous and genocidal? Do you agree or disagree? Think for yourself.

Because I didn’t say it. Like I said I originally was more or less on your side early on. Judge me on what I have said not on what I haven’t said. There is a lot we don’t know yet about the mRNA shots. I certainly hope they aren’t genocidal. They certainly have far more issues than you are willing to admit but I have no evidence of them being genocidal, yet. I have issues with you not not pulling your head out of your *** and at least being willing to question the obvious lies that were told and ask some hard questions, particularly considering the track record of companies like Pfizer that I proved to you in detail. They do lie and coverup data to sell shots. To think they couldn’t have with this is insane considering fascinated warned us of these exact type of issues being a possibility but I guess he was lying on video. You don’t have to take the extreme view to be justified in still questioning something.

 

[Confluence]

Since the virus was grown in a lab, I wonder when they started working on a vaccine for it?

You could look up patents from Murderna and NIAID. Go back a few years before Covid.

And you could ask "how did pFraudulent pFucking pFizer get the exact same tech/virus AHEAD of Murderna?" And "why did Allele Pharma sue them for theft of intellectual property, and then settle quietly?"

It was all covered several hundred pages back, lol.

 

[JMM]

You could look up patents from Murderna and NIAID. Go back a few years before Covid.

And you could ask "how did pFraudulent pFucking pFizer get the exact same tech/virus AHEAD of Murderna?" And "why did Allele Pharma sue them for theft of intellectual property, and then settle quietly?"

It was all covered several hundred pages back, lol.

I must have somehow missed it and the moose out front didn't tell me.. . Appreciate it, that's interesting.

 

[fedderone]

Because I didn’t say it. Like I said I originally was more or less on your side early on. Judge me on what I have said not on what I haven’t said. There is a lot we don’t know yet about the mRNA shots. I certainly hope they aren’t genocidal. They certainly have far more issues than you are willing to admit but I have no evidence of them being genocidal, yet. I have issues with you not not pulling your head out of your *** and at least being willing to question the obvious lies that were told and ask some hard questions, particularly considering the track record of companies like Pfizer that I proved to you in detail. They do lie and coverup data to sell shots. To think they couldn’t have with this is insane considering fascinated warned us of these exact type of issues being a possibility but I guess he was lying on video. You don’t have to take the extreme view to be justified in still questioning something.

A clear concise and intellectual response, SIL.
Do NOT expect the same in return from the retarded MSM parrot you're engaging with.
He's incapable of independent thought, answering any question posed to him, or staying on topic.

 

[Superman]

You didn’t answer the question. I suggested you believed the vaccine was poisonous and genocidal, why make it a point to deny saying that?

because I had no defense to something you suggested I never said. Can't argue something baseless and asinine not grounded in any reality in this timeline or the next. You LITERALLY said you were putting words in my mouth and wanted me to argue against that.

the mental gymnastics of retardery you perform is Olympic level

 

[Confluence]

I must have somehow missed it and the moose out front didn't tell me.. . Appreciate it, that's interesting.

Right.....why didn't Murderna, their shareholders or NIAID sue pFraudulent pFizer?

Murderna was founded to make the Covid shots (spoiler alert, well before "Covid" sprung from Wuhan), holds patents, etc. but the former FDA commissioner Scott Gotlieb became a pFucking pFizer director just before Covid hit.....and surprise......they were also ready and also had the replication technology that Allele sued them for.....


it was always a rigged game.

MotherpFuckers!