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Covid Vaccine

SteelerInLebanon said:
And again as I told you just recently, you REALLY either need to take your own advice or admit you want to be told what to do and when to do it as a good mindless sheeple that you are.
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Told what to do? Yeah, we’re not talking about the best way to cook a steak, we’re talking about medical science. There’s a reason it takes 12+ years to become a doctor.
 
Confluence said:
You are seriously referring to 67,000 pediatricians suing HHS? The same HHS that you cheered on when you thought you were a winner?
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FIFY

Yes, I’ll take the opinion of 67,000 doctors over RFK Jr.
Confluence said:
Medical doctors are highly educated in dispensing drugs......what else?
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Not to RFK Jr., he got his drugs off of heroin and coke dealers.
 
Troglodyte said:
Told what to do? Yeah, we’re not talking about the best way to cook a steak, we’re talking about medical science. There’s a reason it takes 12+ years to become a doctor.
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And I am listening to my medical doctor, and he won't administer the Covid vaccine, nor will he personally take the boosters, neither will many of his colleagues. You are listening to bureaucrats who have forsaken their oaths to do no harm. There is a lot of information that is being buried that doctors are seeing but the media and medical associations are ignoring, likely in fear of admitting they were wrong and opening themselves up to massive litigation. But doctors know.
 
SteelerInLebanon said:
And I am listening to my medical doctor, and he won't administer the Covid vaccine, nor will he personally take the boosters, neither will many of his colleagues.
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I want their names, phone numbers and place of employment. -/Floggy
 
SteelerInLebanon said:
And I am listening to my medical doctor, and he won't administer the Covid vaccine, nor will he personally take the boosters, neither will many of his colleagues. You are listening to bureaucrats who have forsaken their oaths to do no harm. There is a lot of information that is being buried that doctors are seeing but the media and medical associations are ignoring, likely in fear of admitting they were wrong and opening themselves up to massive litigation. But doctors know.
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Uh huh, he shared his personal health history with you and advised against vaccination? Your doctor’s name and his colleagues names?
 
Troglodyte said:
FIFY

Yes, I’ll take the opinion of 67,000 doctors over RFK Jr.
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pFlogtard, you dummbass bought and paid for POS, I didn't write that and it is not true of all those docs in any event.

Their sponsors, drumroll please, from the pharmaceutical industry chose the words and the legal avenues. Have no fear, scientific facts will be born out and you will learn reality.
 
Confluence said:
pFlogtard, you dummbass bought and paid for POS, I didn't write that and it is not true of all those docs in any event.

Their sponsors, drumroll please, from the pharmaceutical industry chose the words and the legal avenues. Have no fear, scientific facts will be born out and you will learn reality.
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Right, 67,000 pediatricians are complicit and silent. Everything is a conspiracy that will eventually be exposed.
 
Troglodyte said:
Have you not been paying attention? No, I do not recommend people do their own research unless they first receive education and training thereby enabling them to fully understand WTF they are researching.
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*sigh*
You are a special kind of special.

Con - Show me the studies.
Fed - He won't provide those to you and will insist you do your own research, meaning finding those studies himself/not being provided those studies by Trog/having to go on the internet and or to the library and reading said studies from his own actions
Trog - Nobody should be researching things themselves and should rely on the findings from the experts.

Reading comprehension and context are perhaps things you should research.........or read what the experts already found out about those subjects and apply them to this forum while you're using it.
 
Troglodyte said:
Uh huh, he shared his personal health history with you and advised against vaccination? Your doctor’s name and his colleagues names?
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Right on cue.
Like Clubber says, you're too predictable and stupid.
 
Troglodyte said:
Right, 67,000 pediatricians are complicit and silent. Everything is a conspiracy that will eventually be exposed.
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have those 67,000 pediatricians all received the clot shot? if yes, how do you know? if no, why not?
 
fedderone said:
*sigh*
You are a special kind of special.

Con - Show me the studies.
Fed - He won't provide those to you and will insist you do your own research, meaning finding those studies himself/not being provided those studies by Trog/having to go on the internet and or to the library and reading said studies from his own actions
Trog - Nobody should be researching things themselves and should rely on the findings from the experts.

Reading comprehension and context are perhaps things you should research.........or read what the experts already found out about those subjects and apply them to this forum while you're using it.
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I provided a link to AAP website explaining vaccine trials. Not MY research, THEIRS.
 
Troglodyte said:
All 67,000 are paying dues to support an organization that endorses the vaccine.
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i'm sure they all have cars with air in the tires, too, but that wasn't any part of my question.
 
Troglodyte said:
😂 OK


You really do think that you’re as informed and qualified as Medical Doctors, don’t you?
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Do you mean this same group that approved the J&J/Janssen vaccine (no longer in use in the U.S.) that was associated with increased risk of Guillain‑Barré syndrome, leading to its withdrawal from the market?

In the link that YOU provided, the entire premise of the article, is based on the following "Some have falsely claimed that vaccines are not rigorously reviewed or tested. In fact, vaccines are held to the highest scientific standards because they are given to healthy people. Every vaccine recommended for children has undergone extensive research—including clinical trials that often use placebos or comparison groups—to ensure it is safe and effective. Once approved, vaccines continue to be monitored for safety"

Ummmmm....then shouldn't the J&J/Jansen vaccine been tested "rigorously" and never issued to children, you know, the least impacted age group for covid, if this claim is indeed fact?

Let me give you the answer, the answer is no. So, should I trust this group blindly and not approach their recommendations with caution? Again, the answer is no.
 
remember when they changed the definition and timeline of vaccine so as to include the mrna covid vax?

@DBS1970 and Pepperidge Farms do.
 
Troglodyte said:
Uh huh, he shared his personal health history with you and advised against vaccination? Your doctor’s name and his colleagues names?
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Yes you mindless **** he did. And no as I have told your Brownshirt wearing *** before I am not sharing anything personal with you as you are the perfect example of what neo-fascism truly looks like. He and many others have serious issues with the boosters and the mRNA vaccines in general. Also specific concerns with the way it uses the spike protein in the vaccine. He does recommend vaccines simply not the Covid vaccine and not even the one that isn’t mRNA because of the spike protein issues.
 
Going to side with Con and SIL on this one regarding this particular mRNA product.
It did not go through the normal trial process before reaching the general public, a fact that cannot be disputed.

Furthermore, it only took me 7 years to become a dokter!! :cool:

Just doin' my part to reach 1000 here.

Just for fun, I'll respond to this.

"You really do think that you’re as informed and qualified as Medical Doctors, don’t you?"

My response will be in the form of a question, because as I understand it, that's the proper response to a direct question, so...

How many years or even semesters do medical doctors receive in pharmacology?

In my joking response above of 7 years, it was drilled into me every moment in school. Those medical doctors came to me for advice, because it was kinda my specialty, where their training was limited in pharmacokinetics and such.
 
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Badcat said:
Do you mean this same group that approved the J&J/Janssen vaccine (no longer in use in the U.S.) that was associated with increased risk of Guillain‑Barré syndrome, leading to its withdrawal from the market?

In the link that YOU provided, the entire premise of the article, is based on the following "Some have falsely claimed that vaccines are not rigorously reviewed or tested. In fact, vaccines are held to the highest scientific standards because they are given to healthy people. Every vaccine recommended for children has undergone extensive research—including clinical trials that often use placebos or comparison groups—to ensure it is safe and effective. Once approved, vaccines continue to be monitored for safety"

Ummmmm....then shouldn't the J&J/Jansen vaccine been tested "rigorously" and never issued to children, you know, the least impacted age group for covid, if this claim is indeed fact?

Let me give you the answer, the answer is no. So, should I trust this group blindly and not approach their recommendations with caution? Again, the answer is no.
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They would never do that, they’re corrupted by big pharma, right?
 
SteelerInLebanon said:
Yes you mindless **** he did. And no as I have told your Brownshirt wearing *** before I am not sharing anything personal with you as you are the perfect example of what neo-fascism truly looks like. He and many others have serious issues with the boosters and the mRNA vaccines in general. Also specific concerns with the way it uses the spike protein in the vaccine. He does recommend vaccines simply not the Covid vaccine and not even the one that isn’t mRNA because of the spike protein issues.
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It’s not personal. It his professional opinion that should be shared with any patient or person asking for it.
 
Oh, and another meaningless comment, like most here, my Niece is a practicing pediatrician, but when her Mother, my Sister has a question regarding a particular medication, she tells her to call Uncle John.
 
Troglodyte said:
They would never do that, they’re corrupted by big pharma, right?
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Here is all you need to know:

Trump: "Operation Warp Speed, get the jab, greatest jab ever, there has never been a greater jab in all of history"
Liberals: "no way! not going to happen, **** Trump and **** his vaccine"
Conservatives: "Um, no. I need to see more data first"

Biden: "Mrumph munph jabby good hrmph"
Liberals: "trust the science, get your booosters!! If you don't, you're selfish, fire the antivaxxers!! vaccine passports and starve them out!!"
Conservatives: "Still no dawg, I need to see more testing"

You only trust medical professionals when their "facts" align with party opinion. Period
 
Badcat said:
Here is all you need to know:

Trump: "Operation Warp Speed, get the jab, greatest jab ever, there has never been a greater jab in all of history"
Liberals: "no way! not going to happen, **** Trump and **** his vaccine"
Conservatives: "Um, no. I need to see more data first"

Biden: "Mrumph munph jabby good hrmph"
Liberals: "trust the science, get your booosters!! If you don't, you're selfish, fire the antivaxxers!! vaccine passports and starve them out!!"
Conservatives: "Still no dawg, I need to see more testing"

You only trust medical professionals when their "facts" align with party opinion. Period
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Show me where the major medical associations flip-flopped on the vaccine and Ill understand what you’re talking about.
 
Troglodyte said:
Show me where the major medical associations flip-flopped on the vaccine and Ill understand what you’re talking about.
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I just did, the American Academy of Pediatrics said it was a good thing to give the children the J&J Covid vax but NOT ANYMORE!

What's your retort now?
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