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Minimal rise in cases? 109% increase in the 14 day average is minimal? The increase is 6.4x that of deaths primarily because hospitalizations and deaths lag behind cases. Cases have been rising for over three weeks, deaths only recently started increasing. So, if I’m misleading and the fear is overblown, how exactly? What increases will we see? In both cases and deaths.
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SD and ND SHOULD have low rates.
CONTAGIOUS diseases should struggle in SPARSELY populated areas. When contagious diseases thrive in sparsely populated areas (Fall of 2020), something is seriously wrong.
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Deceptive or not, it was likely avoidable.
I don’t want to keep hearing about Covid and new variants and who is being hospitalized and who is dying. I want it over.
Yes. Using your math, your logic, in absolute numbers the rise is minimal.
I don't give a flying **** that the hospitalizations/deaths lag behind. They won't be at the level they were last year because you keep missing the ******* simple points:
- Variants are weaker than original viruses
- We treat COVID better now. Fewer people that get sick from COVID die from COVID. We won't have the same death rates. Period.
Fucknut...you...YOU have argued that rural areas that are full of red ruby rubes are breeding grounds for COVID and rampant hot zones because they weren't masking or social distancing. YOU. YOU have screamed and yelled about places like ND and SD. You and Tiblio have railed on about rural red states being breeding grounds. Now...those areas have a majority of their counties with NO cases. Whoops. LMAO...how's that **** sandwich taste?
Yet...these states that are not as vaccinated as your dream Blue crime-ridden states and are faring FAR better. And you argue population density? When your theories fail, you spin to another.
PS...if contagious diseases struggle in sparsely populated areas, why kids in ICU in MS? It's 38th in population density, highly rural. Hmmmm...LMAO
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It is unknown whether the presence of anti-bodies grants immunity. A staff who had Covid and the vaccine got covid again less than 3 months after the vax. Our residents were vaccinated end of Jan. One picked up covid from the hospital recently, and the other one was the one i just posted about. Other facilities in the area are reporting similar things. I find it very hard to believe my area is like a bermuda triangle of covid. I think the vax / natural antibodies offer some protection, but I do not think the immunity lasts as long as they are saying and I do not think we will ever reach herd immunity. Hopefully i am wrong and i am only going by what i see in the real world, but i think covid will be around from now on just like the flu
You need to get out of the place you work that infects 98% of people with COVID 4 times each and do some research.
Countless studies have been done on natural immunity and how long it lasts. Countless studies have been posted here. Those studies talk about how people who had COVID still have natural immunity to this day well over a year later. Most estimate that people who have had it will have some form of immunity for life. They might contract COVID again, but the body will have a blueprint for fighting it and it won't be anything but mild symptoms.
I'll grant more needs to be done on these studies, but all are showing lasting immunity. Bullet proof? No. But it appears to be at this point equal to or better than the vaccines.
I'm not reposting all this **** for you again that I and others have.
Hit the back button on this thread or go through the COVID thread.
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Maybe one of you numbnuts like TimSteelersfan should go check out what's happening with DeSantis down in Florida.
I feel for everyone in these red states, and all the FoxNews viewers being decieved & duped by Ingraham, Hannity & Carlson.
It's a dangerous place to be, being part of - or affected by - a death cult.
There should be immediate steps taken by the FCC - or whoever has jurisdiction over cable - to reel in Fox News. They are *literally* endangering tens of millions of Americans.
That adage about 1st amendment rights not covering 'yelling fire in a crowded theater?' Well, this is it. We are there.
There’s really no other way to say it: Watching Fox News can get you killed. In some ways, that's also true for reading this board.
Proceed with caution, folks.
I feel for everyone in these red states, and all the FoxNews viewers being decieved & duped by Ingraham, Hannity & Carlson.
It's a dangerous place to be, being part of - or affected by - a death cult.
There should be immediate steps taken by the FCC - or whoever has jurisdiction over cable - to reel in Fox News. They are *literally* endangering tens of millions of Americans.
That adage about 1st amendment rights not covering 'yelling fire in a crowded theater?' Well, this is it. We are there.
There’s really no other way to say it: Watching Fox News can get you killed. In some ways, that's also true for reading this board.
Proceed with caution, folks.
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You know, you could say the same thing about CNN. I mean, if anyone actually watched CNN.
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In all seriousness, it's a choice to get vaccinated or not. And that choice could have consequences. I know the government and liberals think otherwise, but I think people are smart enough to make their own decisions. If they choose not to get vaccinated and end up sick or God forbid, dead, who can anyone blame? I'm conservative and I am vaccinated and I'm sure I'm not alone. So how can you blame Ron Desantis or any Republican? Did Ron tell Floridians not to get vaccinated? Or is he a threat to become President that needs to be squashed now with some trumped up nonsense before he gets the chance?
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Sure. Sure. I’m sure you tell all the ladies that.
Again you seem to think the fact of being inoculated / previous recovered means you can not get it again even though you have the antibodies. It simply means, you are less likely to get it, but more importantly not have a significant negative outcome.
I said months ago I have had fully vacc employees test positive. No symptoms or issues. None. Why did we find out? Cause we ******* test all the god damn time.
Imagine years past if we tested for the flu like we do for covid. Imagine the numbers! More people get the flu each year than reported because their symptoms are no more than cold/allergy like.
99.97%
******* Desantis!!!!
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Star American swimmer Michael Andrew says he is standing by his decision to not get the COVID-19 vaccine before the Tokyo Olympics.
Andrew, an Olympic gold medal favorite, said in an interview on the Fox Business show "Varney & Co." on Tuesday that remaining unvaccinated is a "risk" he's willing to take.
"Everything we take and put in our body is very calculated," he said. "You know, with the period going into Olympic trials, I didn't want to risk any time out of the pool."
Andrew said he didn't think it was "necessary" to get the shot as Tokyo Olympics neared. However, he says he still isn't taking the virus "lightly."
"Obviously, there's fear involved and there's nerves behind the decision," he said.
The 22-year-old told reporters last week that he wasn't vaccinated and didn't plan on getting a shot. Andrew, who said he contracted COVID months ago, justified his decision by citing potential vaccine side effects affecting his training schedule. He also said he felt "safe and protected" by USA Swimming's safety protocols already put in place.
Andrew, who holds the record in the men's 100-meter breaststroke, is the highest profile American athlete to come out publicly to say he isn't vaccinated. His comments came as Japan entered a state of emergency over the pandemic.
"Going to the Games not only unvaccinated, but as an American, I'm representing my country in multiple ways and the freedoms we have to make a decision like that," he said.
Andrew is heading to his first Olympic Games with Team USA, where he'll compete in the 100-meter breaststroke, 200-meter individual medley and 50-meter freestyle.
Athletes are not required to get vaccinated at the Olympic and Paralympic Games, the International Olympic Committee (IOC) said in March, while the organization is supportive of them getting the COVID-19 shot. The IOC estimated in June that over 80% of athletes will have their shots.
Olympic swimmer Michael Andrew defends decision to not get vaccinated, calls it a "risk" he's willing to take
Athletes are not required to get vaccinated before the Olympics.
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Star American swimmer Michael Andrew says he is standing by his decision to not get the COVID-19 vaccine before the Tokyo Olympics.
Andrew, an Olympic gold medal favorite, said in an interview on the Fox Business show "Varney & Co." on Tuesday that remaining unvaccinated is a "risk" he's willing to take.
"Everything we take and put in our body is very calculated," he said. "You know, with the period going into Olympic trials, I didn't want to risk any time out of the pool."
Andrew said he didn't think it was "necessary" to get the shot as Tokyo Olympics neared. However, he says he still isn't taking the virus "lightly."
"Obviously, there's fear involved and there's nerves behind the decision," he said.
The 22-year-old told reporters last week that he wasn't vaccinated and didn't plan on getting a shot. Andrew, who said he contracted COVID months ago, justified his decision by citing potential vaccine side effects affecting his training schedule. He also said he felt "safe and protected" by USA Swimming's safety protocols already put in place.
Andrew, who holds the record in the men's 100-meter breaststroke, is the highest profile American athlete to come out publicly to say he isn't vaccinated. His comments came as Japan entered a state of emergency over the pandemic.
"Going to the Games not only unvaccinated, but as an American, I'm representing my country in multiple ways and the freedoms we have to make a decision like that," he said.
Andrew is heading to his first Olympic Games with Team USA, where he'll compete in the 100-meter breaststroke, 200-meter individual medley and 50-meter freestyle.
Athletes are not required to get vaccinated at the Olympic and Paralympic Games, the International Olympic Committee (IOC) said in March, while the organization is supportive of them getting the COVID-19 shot. The IOC estimated in June that over 80% of athletes will have their shots.
nah, the **** you do. you can take your faux compassion and shove it up your ***. what you're forgetting or not willing to accept is that there are a whole lot of people - white, black, brown, yellow, red, green, those who identify as rainbow swirl - who cannot take or refuse to take the vaccine due to having compromised immune systems. I work with a guy whose wife cannot take the shot. She was told by her doctor to NOT take the shot as it can be more of a hindrance to her health since she's pretty much a shut-in. You know - exactly how you, Flog and 21 want everyone to be. She stays home. She avoids leaving the house. She wears two or three masks when she leaves the house on rare occasions. and on those rare occasions she avoids being in proximity with any other person - vaccinated or not. I'd wager a guess that there are a **** ton of people out there just like her.
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Supe you’re smart enough to know I’m speaking of those who are bending over backwards spreading anti-vaxx propaganda on the right and not referring to folks who haven’t taken the shot as a personal choice or for health reasons.
You know that, I know that, but without your hysterical responses the forum would get boring, so I understand why you like to stir the **** & get riled up.
You know that, I know that, but without your hysterical responses the forum would get boring, so I understand why you like to stir the **** & get riled up.
I also know you're intentionally stirring the pot
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There you go again making people who do not want the shot an "Anti-vaxer" who make the decision based on politics. It's a personal health choice for most of us, NOT a political stand. When I speak with other non-covid vaccinated people the discussion is centered around the adverse side effects and the impacts it has had on young healthy people. At no point in any of those conversations has it ever reached a point of "yeah, those damn Democrats".
What specifically would you like to criticize besides the fact that you now have RDS to go along with TDS?
Independent fact checkers and CNN have checked your post and find it to be full of misleading, false information. There is no link between political ideology and vaccination status. Proven.
It's spelled "deceived." Those being deceived are those being told masks work (they do not), social distancing works (they do not), putting COVID patients in nursing homes is smart (it is not), that New York and the federal government have properly reported COVID stats (they have not), that natural immunity does not exist (it does), that the vaccines are as safe as other vaccines (they are not) and that Joe Potato Biden got 81 million votes (he could not have).
And you cry about deception. Because you believe so many fairy tales doesn't mean the truth isn't...the truth.
Tell that to the countless Americans who died/will die as a result of the lockdowns, to the families of those who have OD'd at a rate higher than any in history, to those dying of natural causes they should not have due to lack of healthcare, to those who lost their personal wealth and businesses, to the hundreds of thousands who will die in the years to come due to these draconian measures.
Wrong. No news organization today is truthful. None. Thank god for independent media. Thank GOD CNN is just about dead. Talk about endangering America. There's a thread called The Enemy of the People. You should spend some time there to see endless examples of how your beloved media endangers America.
The screaming "fire in a crowded theater" has been used by your media for over a year, unnecessarily scaring Americans, death trackers, passing false information, supporting Fauxci's lies, stopping the use of effective drugs like Ivermectin because of hate for Trump. Talk about literally killing people - the media is complicit in helping to ensure effective drugs were not used to treat patients that could have lived, but hate for Trump drove their agenda, not truth.
You wanna use that excuse to go after the media? Start in your house first.
As I have pointed out, watching Liberal news - all of them - has been more dangerous. They encouraged people to stay at home - the most dangerous place to be. They skeered Americans away from hydroxy and ivermectin, drugs that could have saved tens of thousands of lives. They have been complicit.
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**** off with your ******* broad-brush attempts to paint people making rational health decisions as anti-vaxxers.
There isn't an antivax person on the board that I am aware of. Those are people who are against vaccines (plural).
This has been said again and again, but must be repeated, because again and again you spread misinformation. People here that object to THESE vaccines object to them because they are not the SAME as fully tested vaccines. They were developed under EUA. They weren't properly tested. They are mRNA vaccines. People have concerns over THESE vaccines, not all vaccines. These vaccines have been proven so far to be infinitely more dangerous than OTHER vaccines.
In an environment where we are dealing with a virus that is less dangerous than the flu for those 60 and under, people should have the right to not take an untested vaccine. It is a personal choice.
If this was ebola, you'd see 100% vaccinations. If these vaccines were tested in the traditional manner, you'd see higher vaccination rates.
As I said to OFTB, people have to make a choice...do I risk the incredibly small chance of dying from COVID, or do I risk the incredibly small chance of dying from the vaccine?
Some of us are waiting on more properly tested, non mRNA vaccines like Novavax. You want to send people to the gulag for making intelligent choices? You are a communist then.
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What I would like to see is a survey of healthcare facilities with re-infection rate of staff and residents. You could compare to vax vs un-vax, residents who had covid, etc etc... Of course you are relying on people to give accurate info as well. I think healthcare facilities would have the most complete info simply due to the fact of constant routine testing. People who are not tested routinely may have been re-infected and asymptomatic, just a sniffle, or just didn't bother to get re-tested. I would just be curious to see what that data shows.
I'd be interested in that data as well.
I still think your facility would show up as the most infected, contagious center of raging-fire-inferno COVID infections on the planet and the NSA and CDC would descend upon your facility in white suits to study the conditions for decades. It's phenomenal that your facility has had 9,232 cases with 112 staff and patients in a year. Truly unbelievable.