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Covid Vaccine

Tibs said:
Maybe one of you numbnuts like TimSteelersfan should go check out what's happening with DeSantis down in Florida.

I feel for everyone in these red states, and all the FoxNews viewers being decieved & duped by Ingraham, Hannity & Carlson.

It's a dangerous place to be, being part of - or affected by - a death cult.

There should be immediate steps taken by the FCC - or whoever has jurisdiction over cable - to reel in Fox News. They are *literally* endangering tens of millions of Americans.

That adage about 1st amendment rights not covering 'yelling fire in a crowded theater?' Well, this is it. We are there.

There’s really no other way to say it: Watching Fox News can get you killed. In some ways, that's also true for reading this board.

Proceed with caution, folks.
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More scare tactic bullshit from Tibtard...
https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america/florida?view=cumulative-deaths&tab=trend
 
jitter77 said:
What I would like to see is a survey of healthcare facilities with re-infection rate of staff and residents. You could compare to vax vs un-vax, residents who had covid, etc etc... Of course you are relying on people to give accurate info as well. I think healthcare facilities would have the most complete info simply due to the fact of constant routine testing. People who are not tested routinely may have been re-infected and asymptomatic, just a sniffle, or just didn't bother to get re-tested. I would just be curious to see what that data shows.
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what I want to see is the number of illnesses and diseases spread from your place of employment - and specifically the address of that place. I want to make damn certain that i am never within a 5-mile radius of that cesspool.
 
Tim Steelersfan said:
Fucknut...you...YOU have argued that rural areas that are full of red ruby rubes are breeding grounds for COVID and rampant hot zones because they weren't masking or social distancing. YOU. YOU have screamed and yelled about places like ND and SD. You and Tiblio have railed on about rural red states being breeding grounds. Now...those areas have a majority of their counties with NO cases. Whoops. LMAO...how's that **** sandwich taste?

Yet...these states that are not as vaccinated as your dream Blue crime-ridden states and are faring FAR better. And you argue population density? When your theories fail, you spin to another.

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PS...if contagious diseases struggle in sparsely populated areas, why kids in ICU in MS? It's 38th in population density, highly rural. Hmmmm...LMAO
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Areas with LOW VACCINATION rates are currently breeding grounds for Covid, rural or not. That is well documented. Are there exceptions? Yes. Are the rural areas with low vaccination rates and CURRENTLY low Covid rates immune? No. Don’t be surprised if their low Covid rates change. Scott Gottlieb said yesterday the current surge is going to get worse before it get better, and could last into the fall. Let’s see what happens after Sturgis.
 
Troglodyte said:
Areas with LOW VACCINATION rates are currently breeding grounds for Covid, rural or not. That is well documented. Are there exceptions? Yes. Are the rural areas with low vaccination rates and CURRENTLY low Covid rates immune? No. Don’t be surprised if their low Covid rates change. Scott Gottlieb said yesterday the current surge is going to get worse before it get better, and could last into the fall. Let’s see what happens after Sturgis.
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what is this, Groundhog Day? You were here whining the same goddamned **** last year. Calling Sturgis a super-spreader event. Net result? nil. Then called the biker event in Jersey as some randomly thrown together event that would also be a super spreader event. End result? one of the oldest biker events in the nation resulted in negligible amount of Rona spread.

Oh, but NOW. NOW there's going to be an impact. Just you wait... gonna see ChinaSneeze double as it KungFlus its way back up the charts.

keep cheering it on. where's your next red-state vacation?

 
Troglodyte said:
Areas with LOW VACCINATION rates are currently breeding grounds for Covid, rural or not.
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And as I have shown you over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over, countless areas with low vaccination rates that are rural are also leading the nation in literally NO CASES reported too.

Not saying the vaccines don't work, they do. But so too does natural immunity. Together they help us beat COVID. But you keep showing up here pointing fingers of blame. As if it is vaccination or nothing. Wrong. If it was all about vaccinations, why are those areas that are under-vaccinated so white (pardon my racism)?

Troglodyte said:
Are there exceptions?
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Countless. Thousands of counties of exceptions. White (pardon my racism) counties all over the country. 53% of Texas counties have 1 case or less reported.

Troglodyte said:
Yes. Are the rural areas with low vaccination rates and CURRENTLY low Covid rates immune? No.
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How do you know this? Once again, you are ignoring natural immunity. Do you have some data I don't that shows how many people are naturally immune in those areas?

Again, to you, it's vaccination or nothing. The battle is VACCINATIONS + NATURAL IMMUNITY. You are only judging states/locales on vaccination status. You have no idea why there are so many white counties. Could be they are lucky. Could be they have lots of natural immunity. You nor I know.

Troglodyte said:
Scott Gottlieb said yesterday the current surge is going to get worse before it get better, and could last into the fall.
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He could be right. He could be wrong. I know that for the past year and half I've listened to lots of people speak behind microphones and on TV who made predictions. Most of them were wrong. Many of them were very very wrong. It's a prediction. One man's.

If you believe the man, however, you must simultaneously be saying you don't believe the vaccines are effective.

Troglodyte said:
Let’s see what happens after Sturgis.
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A whole lot of natural immunity.

Let's see what happens after the next AntiFA/BLM riot, or the demonstrations/riots in Cuba.
 
Tibs said:
There should be immediate steps taken by the FCC - or whoever has jurisdiction over cable - to reel in Fox News. They are *literally* endangering tens of millions of Americans.

That adage about 1st amendment rights not covering 'yelling fire in a crowded theater?' Well, this is it. We are there.
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Aaaaand, there it is. The commie who denies being a commie goes full commie and demands dissenting voices be shut down. Hey, maybe 320 million Americans can get on rafts and flee to Cuba after it overthrows the commie regime.

So let's take a look at the scorecard, shall we, Tibilo:
  • Fox news reports that the lab-made Chinese flu may have escaped from the Chinese Institute of Converting Bat Viruses to Make Them Contagious to Humans.
  • Lying, quisling bootlicker media shrieks in outrage, goes back to Biden's ice cream.
  • Result: Fox news correct.
  • Fox news reports that leftist governors have enacted policies harmful to the population, overreacted in some areas, exposed the most vulnerable in others.
  • Lying, quisling bootlicker media shrieks in outrage, goes back to Biden's ice cream.
  • Result: Fox news correct.
  • Fox news reports that masks don't seem to work, nobody in the government has pointed to evidence that it prevents the spread of the lab-made Chinese flu.
  • Lying, quisling bootlicker media shrieks in outrage, goes back to Biden's ice cream.
  • Result: Fox news correct.
  • Fox news reports that lockdowns have devastating unintended consequences, harming a generation of students.
  • Lying, quisling bootlicker media shrieks in outrage, goes back to Biden's ice cream.
  • Result: Fox news correct.
  • Fox news reports in mid-2020 that the young have a microscopic risk from the lab-made Chinese flu, schools should re-open.
  • Lying, quisling bootlicker media shrieks in outrage, goes back to Biden's ice cream.
  • Result: Fox news correct.
  • Fox news reports that schools remain closed only due to unions, big (D)imbo contributors, and that the science supports opening schools.
  • Lying, quisling bootlicker media shrieks in outrage, goes back to Biden's ice cream.
  • Result: Fox news correct.
  • Fox news reports that natural immunity appears to be as good as the vaccine for the lab-made Chinese flu, ask why those with natural immunity should take the vaccine.
  • Lying, quisling bootlicker media shrieks in outrage, goes back to Biden's ice cream.
  • Result: Fox news correct.
  • Fox news reports that the VAERS reports for the lab-made Chinese flu vaccine are disturbing in some ways, question reason why those under 18 even need the vaccine.
  • Lying, quisling bootlicker media shrieks in outrage, goes back to Biden's ice cream.
  • Result: RHEEEE! SHUT DOWN FOX NEWS!!
 
Superman said:
what I want to see is the number of illnesses and diseases spread from your place of employment - and specifically the address of that place. I want to make damn certain that i am never within a 5-mile radius of that cesspool.
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And you know what is particularly irritating about the ridiculous, unsanitary conditions at jitter$50's facility?

He had an EXTRA $50 TO SPEND ON PREVENTATIVE MEASURES.

jitter$50 ... infected with Chinese flu 14 times and counting. At least that's what he's told the petri dish of a facility where he works.
 
BLM rallies - safe from COVID. AntiFA rioting? Safe from COVID.

Sturgis? SUPER SPREADER EVENT. And when the oppressed rise up against their communist dictators who KILL them, our negligent, dangerous media has the audacity to warn them to go home because it may spread COVID...

Yeah @Tibs calling out Fox for being dangerous. Meanwhile, this ****. SMH.

www.theblaze.com

Twitter users roast Reuters over article titled 'Cuban protests risk exacerbating COVID-19 spike - PAHO'

Social media users have pounced on a tweet about a Reuters article that reported, according to health officials, protests in Cuba raise the risk of COVID-19 spread due to an already high amount of cases and because of the contagious Delta variant of the illness.The Reuters piece noted that the...
www.theblaze.com www.theblaze.com
 
jitter77 said:
What I would like to see is a survey of healthcare facilities with re-infection rate of staff and residents. You could compare to vax vs un-vax, residents who had covid, etc etc... Of course you are relying on people to give accurate info as well. I think healthcare facilities would have the most complete info simply due to the fact of constant routine testing. People who are not tested routinely may have been re-infected and asymptomatic, just a sniffle, or just didn't bother to get re-tested. I would just be curious to see what that data shows.
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Those records are with the states. It’s mandated to be reported for nursing home.
 
Tim Steelersfan said:
And as I have shown you over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over, countless areas with low vaccination rates that are rural are also leading the nation in literally NO CASES reported too.

Not saying the vaccines don't work, they do. But so too does natural immunity. Together they help us beat COVID. But you keep showing up here pointing fingers of blame. As if it is vaccination or nothing. Wrong. If it was all about vaccinations, why are those areas that are under-vaccinated so white (pardon my racism)?


Countless. Thousands of counties of exceptions. White (pardon my racism) counties all over the country. 53% of Texas counties have 1 case or less reported.


How do you know this? Once again, you are ignoring natural immunity. Do you have some data I don't that shows how many people are naturally immune in those areas?

Again, to you, it's vaccination or nothing. The battle is VACCINATIONS + NATURAL IMMUNITY. You are only judging states/locales on vaccination status. You have no idea why there are so many white counties. Could be they are lucky. Could be they have lots of natural immunity. You nor I know.



He could be right. He could be wrong. I know that for the past year and half I've listened to lots of people speak behind microphones and on TV who made predictions. Most of them were wrong. Many of them were very very wrong. It's a prediction. One man's.

If you believe the man, however, you must simultaneously be saying you don't believe the vaccines are effective.



A whole lot of natural immunity.

Let's see what happens after the next AntiFA/BLM riot, or the demonstrations/riots in Cuba.
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“Most of them were wrong” LOL! I encourage you to go back and read your own posts from the beginning of this and
the Coronavirus thread.

You mocked the 100-200k death estimate as being ridiculously high.

You mocked the warning of a fall surge.

You claimed we were near herd immunity months ago.

You mocked the warning of the Delta variant.

But they were wrong? Only in your alternative reality universe.
 
Troglodyte said:
“Most of them were wrong” LOL! I encourage you to go back and read your own posts from the beginning of this and
the Coronavirus thread.

You mocked the 100-200k death estimate as being ridiculously high.

You mocked the warning of a fall surge.

You claimed we were near herd immunity months ago.

You mocked the warning of the Delta variant.

But they were wrong? Only in your alternative reality universe.
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Most of them were. The predictions by the UK and the Washington University estimates. The #s of deaths and cases. All wrong and way off. They were wrong about social distancing, masks, wrong in their deaths calculations. They can't even classify a COVID death properly now. They were wrong about natural immunity.

I could go on for days.

We are near herd immunity. You've been provided the data. The delta variant is a lesser strain than the original. Fact.

Next?
 
Troglodyte said:
“Most of them were wrong” LOL! I encourage you to go back and read your own posts from the beginning of this and
the Coronavirus thread.
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TSF and I stated that the mortality rate would be comparable to the flu virus, i.e., 0.5%. We were right.

TSF argued the masks don't do **** to prevent the spread of the Chinese flu. He was right.

TSF argued the lockdowns were too broad, would devastate businesses, students, cause MASSIVE damage themselves. He was right.

TSF argued that the virus probably came from a Chinese lab. He was right.

TSF argued that the Chinese flu was being used as a political weapon. He was right.

TSF argued we had reached herd immunity to the Chinese flu. He is right, since the recent outbreak is a different, much less lethal variation, the Indian version of the Chinese flu.

TSF argued that you and your ilk did not have to suffer the consequences of the disruptive edicts and partied like it was 1999. He was right.

You were on the opposite side of every ******* argument. You were wrong every ******* time.

The one very clear error I made was underestimating the contagion properties of a lab-made virus specifically engineered to be more contagious. I did not believe the Chinese scientists to be that evil.

I was mistaken in underestimating the evilness of Chinese biological weapons scientists.

Like that, you mean?
 
Jesus, I wish there was a natural immunity to the endless whining, sobbing and bitching of leftists about the lab-made Chinese flu.
 
Tim Steelersfan said:
Most of them were. The predictions by the UK and the Washington University estimates. The #s of deaths and cases. All wrong and way off. They were wrong about social distancing, masks, wrong in their deaths calculations. They can't even classify a COVID death properly now. They were wrong about natural immunity.

I could go on for days.

We are near herd immunity. You've been provided the data. The delta variant is a lesser strain than the original. Fact.

Next?
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Sure, Tim.

You never did explain how cases are rising despite supposedly being near herd immunity. Make sense of that.
 
Tibs said:
There should be immediate steps taken by the FCC - or whoever has jurisdiction over cable - to reel in Fox News. They are *literally* endangering tens of millions of Americans.
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This post should get you a permanent ban on this forum. You are calling for censorship of free press, and I am calling for your ban.
 
Steeltime said:
TSF and I stated that the mortality rate would be comparable to the flu virus, i.e., 0.5%. We were right.

TSF argued the masks don't do **** to prevent the spread of the Chinese flu. He was right.

TSF argued the lockdowns were too broad, would devastate businesses, students, cause MASSIVE damage themselves. He was right.

TSF argued that the virus probably came from a Chinese lab. He was right.

TSF argued that the Chinese flu was being used as a political weapon. He was right.

TSF argued we had reached herd immunity to the Chinese flu. He is right, since the recent outbreak is a different, much less lethal variation, the Indian version of the Chinese flu.

TSF argued that you and your ilk did not have to suffer the consequences of the disruptive edicts and partied like it was 1999. He was right.

You were on the opposite side of every ******* argument. You were wrong every ******* time.

The one very clear error I made was underestimating the contagion properties of a lab-made virus specifically engineered to be more contagious. I did not believe the Chinese scientists to be that evil.

I was mistaken in underestimating the evilness of Chinese biological weapons scientists.

Like that, you mean?
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Facts vs what you want to believe are facts. But that doesn’t matter to you, does it?
 
Troglodyte said:
Sure, Tim.

You never did explain how cases are rising despite supposedly being near herd immunity. Make sense of that.
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Once-a-fuckingain, you don't get what herd immunity is. You equate it with eradication.

The COVID virus will likely be endemic (yes go look it up) like the cold or the flu, which means forever, we are going to have to listen to your blathering about cases rising and needing to keep the world locked up for good.

herd im·mu·ni·ty: resistance to the spread of an infectious disease within a population that is based on pre-existing immunity of a high proportion of individuals as a result of previous infection or vaccination.

Herd immunity is not eradication.
 
Troglodyte said:
Facts vs what you want to believe are facts. But that doesn’t matter to you, does it?
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If you ever embraced a fact, your allergic reaction would be so severe you'd probably have a seizure.
 
Tim Steelersfan said:
Once-a-fuckingain, you don't get what herd immunity is. You equate it with eradication.

The COVID virus will likely be endemic (yes go look it up) like the cold or the flu, which means forever, we are going to have to listen to your blathering about cases rising and needing to keep the world locked up for good.

herd im·mu·ni·ty: resistance to the spread of an infectious disease within a population that is based on pre-existing immunity of a high proportion of individuals as a result of previous infection or vaccination.

Herd immunity is not eradication.
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JFC! Using the definition YOU just provided, how are rising cases indicative of “resistance to the spread”.
 
hamster said:
This post should get you a permanent ban on this forum. You are calling for censorship of free press, and I am calling for your ban.
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You could cut the irony with a knife. :rolleyes:
 
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