Covid Vaccine

[Tim Steelersfan]

but only 1 resident contacted it through spread.

You mean instead of getting it by playing Xbox?

The hell?

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Proof that you think a person’s decision to get vaccinated should be based on political ideology, and if it’s not, then it’s “weird”.

Thank you.

Your reply has nothing at all to do with what he said. Literally - nothing.

Thanks for playing.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Wife and I are going to get tested this morning. Both of us came down with an awful cough, chest pain, etc. on Friday. I have never had such a painful cough. Both of us have had fever off and on since Saturday. No energy, muscle aches, it's awful.

Sorry man, crossing fingers. Please let us know about the results. If it's the Rona, PM me. I'll hook you up to two sites that will do telemedicine appointments and then get you scripts for Ivermectin and ZPack.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

ps - self-described *conservative Christians* like Steelworth, Tim, Steeltime and others will be by soon to downplay the virus, mock the vaccine and laugh in your faces. I apologize on their behalf, for their humiliating lack of compassion and self-awareness.

No. See Sarge has been highly objective about this whole mess since day one. He sees this exactly as it should be seen - Covid and the vaccines. He looks at all sides objectively. Read every one of his posts in this thread.

Meanwhile, you've been here belittling everyone that dares question the vaccines or any Government mandate and insulting those who don't swallow up the lies (and so many of them are now exposed as lies). How dare we question authority, right?

Meanwhile, the irony...your heavily vaccinated family may be infected with Covid after telling us all we are criminals for not getting vaccinated while banging the drum that breakthrough cases are utterly rare.

Regardless, thoughts with you and your family and hoping that if it is Covid, it's mild as most cases are. Good luck.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Since the Covid thread is about dead, I'll just drop this here. Mask related, not vaccine related.

Guess Floggy will be making his annual hypocritical vacation to Florida again. Safest place to go.

States with Mask Mandates Reporting Higher Coronavirus Numbers than Maskless Florida

States with mask mandates in place are reporting higher coronavirus cases per capita than Florida, a target of the establishment media.

www.breitbart.com

States with statewide mask mandates in place are reporting higher coronavirus cases per capita than Florida, a target of the establishment media throughout the Chinese coronavirus pandemic.

Illinois is just one of a handful of states that has a mask mandate in place. Gov. J.B. Pritzker (D) reinstituted the mandate in late August, which requires all Illinois residents older than two to wear a mask in indoor settings, regardless of vaccination status. However, that has not seemed to stop the virus from spreading.

According to the New York Times’ coronavirus tracker, Illinois is reporting a daily average of 4,661 cases, or 37 per 100,000. That reflects an increase of 45 percent over the last two weeks.

While Oregon lifted its controversial outdoor mask mandate this week, it still has an indoor requirement in place. Still, it is reporting a daily average of 806 cases, or 19 per capita.

In October, Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham’s (D) administration in New Mexico extended the statewide mask mandate. Yet, as of Saturday, it reported a daily average of 1,406 cases, or 67 per capita, representing an increase of five percent in the last two weeks.

Other states that have a mask mandate in place include Nevada, which is reporting a daily average of 21 cases per 100,000, and Washington, which is reporting a daily average of 18 cases per 100,000.

Hawaii is the only state with a mask mandate in place that comes close to Florida, reporting a daily average of seven cases per 100,000. Florida is still the lowest in the nation, reporting 6 per 100,000.

The Sunshine State never once had a statewide mask mandate in place.

“They should not be mandated. No government entity should force you to do that. That is your choice. If that’s something you believe provides you protection, no one is going to say anything to you. But that should not, absolutely not, be mandated,” Gov. DeSantis said in August, defending his long-held belief and noting that “even some of these experts now are acknowledging, with an aerosolized virus, a piece of cloth is not going to stop the aerosols.”

“I leave that [masking] to people to make their own judgments. If they feel comfortable with that, do it. But absolutely not should that be mandated in any way,” he emphasized.

 

[Troglodyte]

Vaccines prevent the spread of viruses. These do not. You lose. Again.

And don't forget............Dr. Fauci disagrees with you.

"There has been a SIGNIFICANT uptick in breakthrough infections, hospitalizations, and deaths...those who are already vaccinated are again at risk" - Dr. Anthony Fraudci.

Oh, the vaccines prevent spread as well. West Virginia’s current case rate is 9.7X that of Israel’s.

Science, again.

 

[Troglodyte]

Your reply has nothing at all to do with what he said. Literally - nothing.

Thanks for playing.

He clearly stated he finds it weird that people who are proponents of the vaccines are also anti-Trump. How is that not correlating vaccine acceptance with political ideology?

Y’all got exposed!

 

[Superman]

Oh, the vaccines prevent spread as well. West Virginia’s current case rate is 9.7X that of Israel’s.

Science, again.

it may slow the spread, but it does not prevent the spread at all. far from it.
manufacturers state this. Fauxci states this. Doctors state this. Nurses state this.

you are the only one - literally - who continues to state that the vaccine shot prevents spread and doesnt wane at all... even though just a couple pages back you admitted to the vaccine shot waning.

 

[Superman]

He clearly stated he finds it weird that people who are proponents of the vaccines are also anti-Trump. How is that not correlating vaccine acceptance with political ideology?

Y’all got exposed!

and we've stated time and time again that the vast majority of the black population remains un-vaxxed due to the inherent distrust of goobermint. and the at the vast majority of the black population votes Dim.

when will you admit to being racist?

 

[Sarge]

Just got back from getting tested. Should have the results in a couple hours. If this ain't covid, and I hope it isn't, it's the worst respiratory infection I've ever had. I have an appointment with my doctor at 1:30 this afternoon. Hopefully have my results by then.

 

[Troglodyte]

it may slow the spread, but it does not prevent the spread at all. far from it.
manufacturers state this. Fauxci states this. Doctors state this. Nurses state this.

you are the only one - literally - who continues to state that the vaccine shot prevents spread and doesnt wane at all... even though just a couple pages back you admitted to the vaccine shot waning.

If West Virginia has 45.8 cases/100k and Israel has 4.7 cases/100k, Israel’s higher vaccination rate is PREVENTING 41 cases/100k.

Seatbelts PREVENT car accident fatalities. Brushing your teeth PREVENTS tooth decay. But when people get killed in car accidents or get cavities, simple minds say “Nuh-uh, see don’t work!”

 

[Superman]

If West Virginia has 45.8 cases/100k and Israel has 4.7 cases/100k, Israel’s higher vaccination rate is PREVENTING 41 cases/100k.

Seatbelts PREVENT car accident fatalities. Brushing your teeth PREVENTS tooth decay. But when people get killed in car accidents or get cavities, simple minds say “Nuh-uh, see don’t work!”

i was unaware that everyone driving a car gets into an accident daily. odd how that works. Do explain seatbelts in regards to motorcycles. or bicycles. or hiking. or ...

oh, and your religion beckons...

Fauci: Herd Immunity Unreachable Unless Vaccine Hesitant Get The Jab Or Get Infected

Experts doubt whether a threshold for overall immunity is even on the table.

www.forbes.com

Fauci said in a separate interview on Monday with CNN that it is unclear what percentage of the U.S. population needs to get vaccinated before the country will reach herd immunity, though he predicted that the country could return to normal by Spring 2022 if inoculations pick-up. The Infectious Diseases Society of America this month adjusted its threshold for herd immunity to well over 80% and potentially approaching 90% because of the delta variant.

why is that relevant, flog? the entire bold portion. read it a few times.

here, allow me to add a little more to this think stew for you:

Israel: the latest coronavirus counts, charts and maps

Tracking the COVID-19 outbreak, updated daily

graphics.reuters.com

Vaccination​

Israel has administered at least 16,165,200 doses of COVID vaccines so far. Assuming every person needs 2 doses, that’s enough to have vaccinated about 89.3% of the country’s population.

Since you've proven you're incapable of making correlations... Israel has 89.3% of the population vaxxed. yet the virus still spreads. the IDSA said 80-90% of the population would need to be vaxxed to achieve herd immunity... but they're not even certain that would work since Fauxci says "Spring 2022" we might be back to "normal"

Point to any other state. Any other country. While also looking at Israel. 89.3% of the population is vaxxed. And its still spreading. If the vaccine shot worked - AS WE WERE TOLD IT WOULD - the virus wouldn't be spreading.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Oh, the vaccines prevent spread as well.

They do? Odd that Rochelle Walensky and Dr Fauci both disagree with you.

The studies in Germany and England show that those under 60 are 30% more likely to contract Covid if vaccinated. Then, well...you point to science.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2021/08/06/cdc_director_vaccines_no_longer_prevent_you_from_spreading_covid.html#!

Three New studies find the Covid-19 Vaccines do not work | Principia Scientific Intl.

Three New studies find the Covid-19 Vaccines do not work

principia-scientific.com

Nina Pierpont (MD, PhD) published a paper on September 9th...new research in multiple settings shows that the alleged Delta variant produces very high viral loads which are just as high in the vaccinated population compared to the unvaccinated population...cites three studies whose findings and data support her conclusions and these include a study published August 6th 2021 in the Centre for Disease Control’s (CDC) ‘Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report’, another study published August 10th 2021 by Oxford University, and a final study published August 24th 2021 which was funded by the UK Department for Health and Social Care.

The Moderna CEO disagrees with you.

Moderna boss says COVID-19 vaccine not proven to stop spread of virus

Moderna’s coronavirus vaccine may not get life back to normal right away because it hasn’t yet been proven to prevent the deadly bug from spreading, the company’s top doctor says.…

nypost.com

Why the Covid-19 vaccines do not stop the virus from circulating

Spain is seeing an uptick in coronavirus contagions among the vaccinated. While this is to be expected, it is not likely to lead to more serious cases of the disease

english.elpais.com

Covid-19 vaccines prevent hospitalizations and death from the disease in more than 90% of cases, but they do not stop the transmission of the virus.

COVID-19 vaccines don’t prevent infection, academy cautions | The Guardian Nigeria News - Nigeria and World News

The Nigerian Academy of Science (NAS) has warned that COVID-19 vaccines do not prevent infection but instead stop the virus from killing the patient.

guardian.ng

The Pfizer CEO stated that his vaccine no longer prevents spread/infection.

We could ask you to go back and look at the data that's previously been provided to you on how badly the vaccines have waned, but you refuse to read anything that doesn't confirm your bias. Prevention against spread has dropped to just 3% for one of the vaccines (J&J).

Keep citing science while the science actually utterly destroys your baseless claim.

 

[Sarge]

Wife and I are both covid negative. Gonna go see my doctor and hopefully get a zpack or something to knock this cough out.

 

[Sarge]

Saying the vaccines prevent spread is willful ignorance at this point.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

He clearly stated he finds it weird that people who are proponents of the vaccines are also anti-Trump. How is that not correlating vaccine acceptance with political ideology?

Y’all got exposed!

You stated "Proof that you think a person’s decision to get vaccinated should be based on political ideology"

Again, that is literally NOT what he said. He made an observation about Liberals and it being odd that Liberals now rabidly support vaccines developed by Trump and big Pharma, all entailing things Liberals used to rail against.

Play again.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Just got back from getting tested. Should have the results in a couple hours. If this ain't covid, and I hope it isn't, it's the worst respiratory infection I've ever had. I have an appointment with my doctor at 1:30 this afternoon. Hopefully have my results by then.

I would be careful about trusting the results Sarge. My test came back negative the day I got Covid (the rapid test). Get a PCR test to be sure if you can and have the energy.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

A cancer doctor.

Dr. Ray Page at the Texas Covid Summit earlier this week.

 

[Troglodyte]

i was unaware that everyone driving a car gets into an accident daily. odd how that works. Do explain seatbelts in regards to motorcycles. or bicycles. or hiking. or ...

oh, and your religion beckons...

Fauci: Herd Immunity Unreachable Unless Vaccine Hesitant Get The Jab Or Get Infected

Experts doubt whether a threshold for overall immunity is even on the table.

www.forbes.com

why is that relevant, flog? the entire bold portion. read it a few times.

here, allow me to add a little more to this think stew for you:

Israel: the latest coronavirus counts, charts and maps

Tracking the COVID-19 outbreak, updated daily

graphics.reuters.com

Since you've proven you're incapable of making correlations... Israel has 89.3% of the population vaxxed. yet the virus still spreads. the IDSA said 80-90% of the population would need to be vaxxed to achieve herd immunity... but they're not even certain that would work since Fauxci says "Spring 2022" we might be back to "normal"

Point to any other state. Any other country. While also looking at Israel. 89.3% of the population is vaxxed. And its still spreading. If the vaccine shot worked - AS WE WERE TOLD IT WOULD - the virus wouldn't be spreading.

So, put another way, Israel still has nearly 1 million unvaccinated. Shame, the vast majority of the 400 cases and 2 deaths they saw yesterday could have also been PREVENTED if they were 100% vaccinated.

Sorry you don’t like dealing with the pandemic, I don’t like it either. The difference is I recognize a means to an end when I see it.

 

[Troglodyte]

You stated "Proof that you think a person’s decision to get vaccinated should be based on political ideology"

Again, that is literally NOT what he said. He made an observation about Liberals and it being odd that Liberals now rabidly support vaccines developed by Trump and big Pharma, all entailing things Liberals used to rail against.

Play again.

Sure Tim, it’s not ideological. I suppose you’re equally confused that many liberals like golf, because you know, Trump likes golf. Right?

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Sure Tim, it’s not ideological. I suppose you’re equally confused that many liberals like golf, because you know, Trump likes golf. Right?

Don't try to spin away from this. You confused what Mad wrote, tried to say he said people SHOULD make the vaccination decision based on their politics. He did not. So now you're waffling. Again.

 

[Troglodyte]

Saying the vaccines prevent spread is willful ignorance at this point.

What is your explanation for the inverse relationship between vaccination rate and case rate? Or are you just ignoring that?

 

[Troglodyte]

Don't try to spin away from this. You confused what Mad wrote, tried to say he said people SHOULD make the vaccination decision based on their politics. He did not. So now you're waffling. Again.

Not waffling anything. If vaccine resistance isn’t ideological, then what’s weird about liberals being pro-vaccine and anti-Trump?

You can’t answer that.

 

[Superman]

So, put another way, Israel still has nearly 1 million unvaccinated. Shame, the vast majority of the 400 cases and 2 deaths they saw yesterday could have also been PREVENTED if they were 100% vaccinated.

Sorry you don’t like dealing with the pandemic, I don’t like it either. The difference is I recognize a means to an end when I see it.

so, to play along with Flogopoly, 400 cases were and had to be from the unvaxxed. Becuz failed science do say it be. Thus, those 2 peepoze dying of the 400 cases represent 2 out of 1 million.

what do the pear cent be of that yuan mil?
A. .000002

or, what be the 2 deaths out of those 400 cases pear cent be?
A: .005

 

[Superman]

Not waffling anything. If vaccine resistance isn’t ideological, then what’s weird about liberals being pro-vaccine and anti-Trump?

You can’t answer that.

its been answered. complete lack of trust in the goobermint.
whereas you HATED that Trump even mentioned the WooFloo in the State of the Union Address that Nancy ripped to shreds, and HATED that Trump closed borders, enacted Operation Warp Speed to create and distribute the vaccine, you're now fully and totally in love with the vaccine that Vice Prostitute CumAllah Harris said she would not take under a Trump administation since it's being pushed out like President Peepads' morning breakfast around noon.

ideology? oh, you have the market cornered on that.