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Covid Vaccine

The wall would pay for itself in time by not having a flood of SSI stealing immigrants on welfare for their entire lives. Illegal aliens cost this country billions year year because we have to feed, education and support people that don't even speak English. On top of that you have an entire group of people that actually hate the country they live in. Biden is a moron and the left wing love open borders. They don't care if it hurts the country or not.
 
And more to Vader's point, if our Government really cared about our health and safety, they'd take every precaution to stop illegal immigration during a pandemic. Instead, they're allowing hundreds of thousands of unvetted/untested immigrants in each month, while they're simultaneously policing hard-working, tax-paying Americans with mandates. And downplaying the effectiveness of vitamins, therapeutics and taking better care of oneself because there isn't the money in it like there are these vaccines shots.

Anybody who thinks our government is honestly concerned with our health and safety instead of seeing the power & money grab this really is has their head in the sand. And I'm not downplaying the virus, I'm just disgusted with our Government, Pravda & how they've handled it.
 
Poor Trog.

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Tim Steelersfan said:
Please explain how what I wrote supports mandates.

I'll wait.
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“SMDH, what a perfect way to continue the spread”.

If you are shaking your head (expressing disagreement) at the NFL ending a mandate, how are you not supporting it?
 
Vader said:
The wall would pay for itself in time by not having a flood of SSI stealing immigrants on welfare for their entire lives. Illegal aliens cost this country billions year year because we have to feed, education and support people that don't even speak English. On top of that you have an entire group of people that actually hate the country they live in. Biden is a moron and the left wing love open borders. They don't care if it hurts the country or not.
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correction - the left love OUR borders to be open. Other countries, not so much. In fact, they'll scramble military to some obscure nation in the dead of night to enforce an arbitrary "line in the sand"
 
Troglodyte said:
“SMDH, what a perfect way to continue the spread”.

If you are shaking your head (expressing disagreement) at the NFL ending a mandate, how are you not supporting it?
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Let me spell this out as simply as I can for you, given your are this slow.

As a means of keeping the NFL cash cow producing money, the NFL has realized that testing EVERYONE is leading to a ton of cases showing up - because the vaccinated contract and spread Covid. The NFL eliminated weekly Covid-19 testing for vaccinated players who are asymptomatic. Therefore what that means Floggy is the NFL is going to REDUCE testing for certain populations of the NFL.

As Madinsomniac has pointed out to you time and again, our cases numbers are way, way off base because after vaccines began being administered, vaccinated people stopped getting tested.

Now, more and more vaxed people are being tested and found to have Covid. Like...the...NFL. So the NFL says "let's stop testing vaccinated asymptomatic players" and only test the symptomatic.

The NFL is breaking its prior protocol because it realizes the protocol is going to lead to forfeited games...which leads to a loss of revenue.

Not one iota of that has anything whatsoever in the least at all to do with a mandate. It's a critical jab at the NFL for backtracking its testing policies and its rules in an attempt to keep as many players on the field, including those carrying the virus....to generate $$.

I'm sure somehow you think this is brilliant. You alone would.
 
and, while you, @Troglodyte, do not care how the NHL tests, the fact - undisputable, mind you, is that the NHL is 100% vaccinated.

not like Israel, or West Virginia, or Delaware, or New Hampshire, or either Dakota state... 100% vaccinated. and still have cases. still shutting down games.

why?

tHe VaCciNeS dO bE wUrKs!

 
Troglodyte said:
So you support mandates when they are for testing healthy, asymptotic, vaccinated professional athletes?

Again, you make ZERO sense.
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Testing is not the same as injecting a cell altering substance in you… they swab your nose.

My company can demand i be tested for drugs and alcohol… they can’t unwillingly force me to take drugs and alcohol.
 
madinsomniac said:
Testing is not the same as injecting a cell altering substance in you… they swab your nose.

My company can demand i be tested for drugs and alcohol… they can’t unwillingly force me to take drugs and alcohol.
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If you don't feel like watching the entire video, just watch from 3:48 on. She doesn't know (yeah, okay) the % of vaccinated CDC employees but they "encourage" them to get vaccinated, while they're mandating them for many Americans. If this doesn't tell you all you need to know about the CDC and most of the people in power in this country right now, I don't know what will. Sad and terrifying.
 
Steelworth said:



If you don't feel like watching the entire video, just watch from 3:48 on. She doesn't know (yeah, okay) the % of vaccinated CDC employees but they "encourage" them to get vaccinated, while they're mandating them for many Americans. If this doesn't tell you all you need to know about the CDC and most of the people in power in this country right now, I don't know what will. Sad and terrifying.
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Trog's role model in answering direct questions.
 
Tim Steelersfan said:
200w.webp


Let me spell this out as simply as I can for you, given your are this slow.

As a means of keeping the NFL cash cow producing money, the NFL has realized that testing EVERYONE is leading to a ton of cases showing up - because the vaccinated contract and spread Covid. The NFL eliminated weekly Covid-19 testing for vaccinated players who are asymptomatic. Therefore what that means Floggy is the NFL is going to REDUCE testing for certain populations of the NFL.

As Madinsomniac has pointed out to you time and again, our cases numbers are way, way off base because after vaccines began being administered, vaccinated people stopped getting tested.

Now, more and more vaxed people are being tested and found to have Covid. Like...the...NFL. So the NFL says "let's stop testing vaccinated asymptomatic players" and only test the symptomatic.

The NFL is breaking its prior protocol because it realizes the protocol is going to lead to forfeited games...which leads to a loss of revenue.

Not one iota of that has anything whatsoever in the least at all to do with a mandate. It's a critical jab at the NFL for backtracking its testing policies and its rules in an attempt to keep as many players on the field, including those carrying the virus....to generate $$.

I'm sure somehow you think this is brilliant. You alone would.
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So when you wrote “WHAT A PERFECT WAY TO CONTINUE THE SPREAD” I was to interpret that as you arguing that the NFL is trying to avoid cancelling games and generate $$, even though you NEVER MENTIONED ANYTHING about $$ or cancelling games?

FAIL

You realized that you **** the bed with your ideologically driven argument and so you tried the old “that’s not what I’m saying”.
If it wasn’t ideological for you, you’d be happy for the vaccinated NFL players and the end of their testing mandate.
 
Troglodyte said:
So when you wrote “WHAT A PERFECT WAY TO CONTINUE THE SPREAD” I was to interpret that as you arguing that the NFL is trying to avoid cancelling games and generate $$, even though you NEVER MENTIONED ANYTHING about $$ or cancelling games?

FAIL

You realized that you **** the bed with your ideologically driven argument and so you tried the old “that’s not what I’m saying”.
If it wasn’t ideological for you, you’d be happy for the vaccinated NFL players and the end of their testing mandate.
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Every single liberal and many moderates correctly creamed Trump for not having an extensive testing policy out (despite his actually being up to speed faster than the previous admins tepid pandemic respone, by the way) Biden even first started down the path of extensive testing before backing into useless vaccine mandates... testing gives a high biased but statistically correctable number to work with. it also makes sure people with the virus arent spreading it... as an aerosol, how you deal with spread is radically different than how you deal with a bloodborne or Droplet spread virus... Asymptomatic spread is always a huge concern. while its theoretically possible to spread the virus before its detectable, it probably not a very common thing, so daily testing is a completely reasonable response to a pandemic....

there is absolutely no logical reason to cut back on testing during an uptick in cases except to hide the true numbers..

Nobody should be backing this move except the people who want to downplay how broken the vaccines are. Give me one logical response as to how less testing helps things here...
 
Troglodyte said:
So when you wrote “WHAT A PERFECT WAY TO CONTINUE THE SPREAD” I was to interpret that as you arguing that the NFL is trying to avoid cancelling games and generate $$, even though you NEVER MENTIONED ANYTHING about $$ or cancelling games?

FAIL

You realized that you **** the bed with your ideologically driven argument and so you tried the old “that’s not what I’m saying”.
If it wasn’t ideological for you, you’d be happy for the vaccinated NFL players and the end of their testing mandate.
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200w.webp


LMAO son, I meant exactly what I wrote. Clearly, you wouldn't get sarcasm if it was delivered to you via an ICBM.

If the NFL doesn't test its players for Covid, and asymptomatic players have Covid, and they play in games and practice, will they spread Covid? YES.

When the NFL said it is going to stop testing vaccinated asymptomatic players - it quite literally means they are going to allow cases to spread. Because - as we have seen over the past two weeks - asymptomatic vaccinated players are getting and spreading Covid.

With me so far tard?

So when I say "What a brilliant way to continue to the spread" I am sarcastically laughing at the new policy which is idiotic. Like saying after a locale defunds the police, "What a brilliant way to improve crime statistics."

You're so god damned slow and daft sometimes, I pity your circle. No, really.

Would you like to go back and try to explain to us all how my comments had anything to do with a mandate?

Let me grab my....

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madinsomniac said:
there is absolutely no logical reason to cut back on testing during an uptick in cases except to hide the true numbers..
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Which is EXACTLY what the NFL is doing. Hiding true numbers so games can be played and Covid-spreading-be-damned.

madinsomniac said:
Nobody should be backing this move except the people who want to downplay how broken the vaccines are. Give me one logical response as to how less testing helps things here...
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I would love for Flogtard or Tiblio to respond to this part.
 
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Think they aren't being given coordinated talking points?

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After I had Covid, and experienced only mild symptoms, what should I have said?

"I'm thankful to experience only mild to moderate symptoms and fare as well as the 99.87% of the rest of us who got it and survived"


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Tim Steelersfan said:
Think they aren't being given coordinated talking points?

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Just like all of their other talking points. Funny how Joe Rogan recovered in literally one day but they actually doctored the image of him to look sicker and said he was taking a horse de-wormer. They couldn't handle that he wasn't afraid of Covid and then recovered so quickly by taking good therapeutics (he was also on a megadose vitamin C drip).

Tim Steelersfan said:
After I had Covid, and experienced only mild symptoms, what should I have said?

"I'm thankful to experience only mild to moderate symptoms and fare as well as the 99.87% of the rest of us who got it and survived"


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It's not a true vaccine if so many jabbed people are contracting the damn thing.
 
ZonaBurgh said:
Just curious, and I'm sure Trog will know, exactly how many in this country have died directly from the Omicron variant?

It must be in the hundreds of thousands, because the President says we'll be having a winter of death.
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I read recently that one (yes, one) person died here in the U.S. and one in Britain. FloggedbyReality will likely weigh in on the matter, but that's what I've read so far.
 
Tim Steelersfan said:
200w.webp


LMAO son, I meant exactly what I wrote. Clearly, you wouldn't get sarcasm if it was delivered to you via an ICBM.

If the NFL doesn't test its players for Covid, and asymptomatic players have Covid, and they play in games and practice, will they spread Covid? YES.

When the NFL said it is going to stop testing vaccinated asymptomatic players - it quite literally means they are going to allow cases to spread. Because - as we have seen over the past two weeks - asymptomatic vaccinated players are getting and spreading Covid.

With me so far tard?

So when I say "What a brilliant way to continue to the spread" I am sarcastically laughing at the new policy which is idiotic. Like saying after a locale defunds the police, "What a brilliant way to improve crime statistics."

You're so god damned slow and daft sometimes, I pity your circle. No, really.

Would you like to go back and try to explain to us all how my comments had anything to do with a mandate?

Let me grab my....

giphy.webp
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Sarcasm? Where is the mockery and irony in criticizing the NFL for something other than what you were actually criticizing them for? There isn’t. Sarcasm would be feigned praise, not actual criticism.

So if YOU think that the NFL NOT testing asymptomatic, vaccinated players is idiotic and will spread Covid, what do YOU think other employers, schools, school sports, rec centers, bars and restaurants should be doing? Congratulations Tim, you followed up your pro-mandate argument with a pro-restriction argument!
 
Why would anyone think it’s ideological?

www.theguardian.com

Crowd boos Trump after he reveals he took Covid booster

Trump once again claimed credit for producing the vaccine, saying vaccine wariness was ‘playing into the hands’ of his opponents
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com

Elsewhere in the state…

www.khou.com

Unvaccinated man with health issues in Harris County becomes first omicron death in US

According to Harris County Judge Lina Hidalgo, the patient was a man in his 50s who was not vaccinated and had an underlying health condition.
www.khou.com www.khou.com

It’s madness, no other way to describe it.
 
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