Covid Vaccine

[Sarge]

According to our government institutions I'm "super immune." Vaccination + Covid = super duper immunity. I should be able to go maskless everywhere, right? No restrictions at all, based on CDC "studies." Whatever.

 

[tapeANaspirin2it]

 

[MTC]

The mRNA vaccines have not, will not and can't end the pandemic even if we had 100% vaccination. That is a scientific fact and you have been lied to by those worshipping at the feet of false claims. The vaccines do not stop the spread therefore they obviously can't stop the pandemic.

Explain it in 1st grade english so tibs understands it better. He

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

And you still discount that for the VACCINATED, ALL VARIANTS WERE FAR LESS DEADLY..

You are helplessly delusional. It’s your pandemic, not mine.

LMAO

This is just way too easy.

Don't care to comment that you indicated Israel is doing so much better than the USA because of their vaccination rates again?

Vaccines prevent spread and serious illness.

Do these vaccines prevent spread Flogged? Simple question. Please....answer.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

You familiar with the number 15?

That number ain't real and has changed so many times, you can't even remember what the actual factor happens to be.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Then pray tell, why are your panties is such a twist?

I love you.

 

[Steeltime]

Tim clings to cases because it’s the only argument he has left in his idiotic fight against the vaccines.

Uhh, no. Tim points out that more and more of the positive cases, AND hospitalized, AND dead from the Chinese flu are vaccinated, and that the data comparing heavily-vaccinated Israel and the slightly less-heavily vaccinated United States show no appreciable difference.

That number ain't real and has changed so many times, you can't even remember what the actual factor happens to be.

"Eleventyfourtwelfteenth."
- Floggy

 

[ZonaBurgh]

I love you.

 

[Ironcitysteelers]

LMAO

This is just way too easy.

Don't care to comment that you indicated Israel is doing so much better than the USA because of their vaccination rates again?

Vaccines prevent spread and serious illness.

Do these vaccines prevent spread Flogged? Simple question. Please....answer.

 

[SteelerInLebanon]

Wow! From “It’s the flu, brah” to “the pandemic will never end!”

The pandemic has more or less ended for the vaccinated. Israel’s seeing an average of 2 Covid deaths/day and even they aren’t 100% vaccinated. If the US was 100% vaccinated, daily deaths would be a lot closer to fourteen than fourteen-hundred.

Trog I say this with all due respect, you may be the stupidest person I have ever debated.

 

[Ironcitysteelers]

Do I hear 5?

Moderna CEO says fourth COVID-19 shot could be necessary

The CEO of Moderna says that a fourth coronavirus vaccine shot may soon be necessary due to declining efficacy of booster shots: "I still believe we’re going to need boosters in the fall of ’22 and forward," CEO Stephane Bancel said. "This virus is not going away. We’re going to have to live...

www.fox29.com

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Do I hear 5?

Moderna CEO says fourth COVID-19 shot could be necessary

The CEO of Moderna says that a fourth coronavirus vaccine shot may soon be necessary due to declining efficacy of booster shots: "I still believe we’re going to need boosters in the fall of ’22 and forward," CEO Stephane Bancel said. "This virus is not going away. We’re going to have to live...

www.fox29.com

I posted links...soon it will be monthly as these vaccines wear down people's immune systems.

 

[tapeANaspirin2it]

I posted links...soon it will be monthly as these vaccines wear down people's immune systems.

 

[Sarge]

I don't know how a person looks at the data objectively and doesn't see the problems with these mRNA vaccines. I don't understand why we as Americans can only have two default positions in reference to these vaccines.

An objective person looks at them and admits that they help with disease severity but also admits that they might be causing some health problems. An objective person can also admit that they do not prevent contracting or spreading COVID, and they aren't some pandemic ending panacea.

There is some benefit, but it isn't an end all be all. We should be using everything at our disposal, but our government and media seem content to play stupid political games with people's lives.

 

[fedderone]

LMAO

This is just way too easy.

Don't care to comment that you indicated Israel is doing so much better than the USA because of their vaccination rates again?

Vaccines prevent spread and serious illness.

Do these vaccines prevent spread Flogged? Simple question. Please....answer.

I wouldn’t hold your breath.
Flog avoids answering questions like common sense avoids his posts.

 

[fedderone]

I don't know how a person looks at the data objectively and doesn't see the problems with these mRNA vaccines. I don't understand why we as Americans can only have two default positions in reference to these vaccines.

An objective person looks at them and admits that they help with disease severity but also admits that they might be causing some health problems. An objective person can also admit that they do not prevent contracting or spreading COVID, and they aren't some pandemic ending panacea.

There is some benefit, but it isn't an end all be all. We should be using everything at our disposal, but our government and media seem content to play stupid political games with people's lives.

Thank you, Sarge.
You are an island of reality in an ocean of diarrhea.
GREAT post!

 

[Steeltime]

I don't know how a person looks at the data objectively and doesn't see the problems with these mRNA vaccines. I don't understand why we as Americans can only have two default positions in reference to these vaccines.

An objective person looks at them and admits that they help with disease severity but also admits that they might be causing some health problems. An objective person can also admit that they do not prevent contracting or spreading COVID, and they aren't some pandemic ending panacea.

There is some benefit, but it isn't an end all be all. We should be using everything at our disposal, but our government and media seem content to play stupid political games with people's lives.

Like you, I think the shot is arguably the best treatment measure for the Chinese flu, but I am frustrated and angry that those in charge refuse to acknowledge or tout OTHER treatment measures shown to be highly effective. Those include monoclonal antibodies.

Conclusions: The administration of monoclonal antibody therapy using a risk scoring system significantly reduced the number of hospitalization and disease severity of COVID-19 without any serious adverse events and avoided regional medical collapse.

Effectiveness of monoclonal antibody therapy for COVID-19 patients using a risk scoring system - PubMed

The administration of monoclonal antibody therapy using a risk scoring system significantly reduced the number of hospitalisation and disease severity of COVID-19 without any serious adverse events and avoided regional medical collapse.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Yet the current President is interfering in delivery of this very safe and effective treatment measure.

Federal government limits distribution of monoclonal antibodies for the treatment of COVID-19 -

SAN DIEGO (KUSI) – As we enter 2022 with COVID-19 cases on the rise, the government has taken steps to limit the distribution of monoclonal antibodies for COVID-19 treatment. Dr. Kelly Victory, Emergency Medicine and Disaster Specialist, joined KUSI’s Jason Austell on “Good Morning San Diego” to...

www.kusi.com

Let me repeat: The Federal government, under the current President and Anthony Fauxci, is limiting delivery of a safe and effective treatment measure for the Chinese flu.

Can you imagine the outrage if an actual President, say Trump, restricted delivery of a safe, effective treatment measure?

 

[Troglodyte]

"Not my pandemic."
"Not my president."

Not really in line with the "inclusive / kumbya / everyone is equal / we're all in this together" attitude typically espoused, now is it?

Your true colors are showing. Vaccination is a communal responsibility.

For the third time, why do you think it’s liberal to encourage vaccination?

 

[Troglodyte]

LMAO

This is just way too easy.

Don't care to comment that you indicated Israel is doing so much better than the USA because of their vaccination rates again?

Vaccines prevent spread and serious illness.

Do these vaccines prevent spread Flogged? Simple question. Please....answer.

Yes. 5X

 

[SteelerInLebanon]

Your true colors are showing. Vaccination is a communal responsibility.

For the third time, why do you think it’s liberal to encourage vaccination?

I would agree with you if these shots actually conferred immunity to the majority as most vaccines do. They don't, are not properly tested and have a large number of possible side effects. Your refusal to acknowledge that shows the depth of your stupidity or willful ignorance.

 

[Sarge]

Vaccination is a communal responsibility.

Under normal circumstances, sure I can agree with that. How can it be communally responsible to use THIS vaccine when THIS vaccine prevents neither contraction nor spread? If you're vaccinated, me being vaccinated doesn't lessen the severity of your disease.

 

[SteelerInLebanon]

Yes. 5X

No that is patently false for Omicron. My Daughters ward is back to being a Covid ward in Cincinnati and it isn't just the unvaccinated getting Omicron or Delta. She is home sick with it now and she is twice vaccinated. So **** off.

 

[Sarge]

No that is patently false for Omicron. My Daughters ward is back to being a Covid ward in Cincinnati and it isn't just the unvaccinated getting Omicron or Delta. She is home sick with it now and she is twice vaccinated. So **** off.

This is her pandemic, not Trog's.

 

[Sarge]

My daughter says that at her hospital in Greenville that probably half of the people showing up with COVID are vaccinated, maybe more. She too was double vaccinated and contracted COVID. Hell, she was still symptomatic when they cleared her to return to work. **** is nuts.

 

[oneforthebus]

Even though I am much less of a vaccine skeptic than many here, what is the evidence that these endless boosters help anything? If they were designed to address new variants it might make sense, but they aren't. They clearly don't prevent spread. I for one am not going to keep getting a shot every few months even though I've had covid twice and had extremely mild symptoms. Even if the vaccines risks are minimal why would I do that? Keep getting shots that have a slight risk of clots and/or myocarditis to prevent getting the sniffles again? Insanity.