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Covid Vaccine

ZonaBurgh said:
Early last Spring when the then "vaccine" was available to me, I jumped on it, as did many. Other than being a 5 year cancer survivor, I'm otherwise in pretty good shape for a 70 year old, normal weight, no cardiac, diabetic, blood pressure or lipid issues. While I don't regret getting the shots, the boosters that are being pressed on everyone will never see my arm. This virus will peter out like all viruses do, shot or not. This pandemic has destroyed this country and the world for that matter on so many levels, it's time to live our lives again.
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Thank you for your sane and rational level headed post (invoking my best Tibs here)
 
So i just got back from a non covid overnight stay in the hospital.

(yeah I developed an infection in my foot and had to choose to either miss the game and get it treated all day Sunday or stupidly procrastinate until after Bens regular season finale and camp overnight)

In short:
They no longer test everyone for covid.
They don’t even ask if you are vaccinated or not…. This version is extremely mild and super contagious….. everyone is getting this but its really only going be a cold for almost everyone
 
ZonaBurgh said:
This pandemic has destroyed this country and the world for that matter on so many levels, it's time to live our lives again.
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I'm going to disagree a little bit. It isn't the pandemic that has destroyed the country or the world. It's the politicians. The so-called experts. The news media. If they had just been honest from the start, none of this would have been necessary. Somebody said that the cure couldn't be worse than the virus. That somebody was right.
 
Sarge said:
I'm going to disagree a little bit. It isn't the pandemic that has destroyed the country or the world. It's the politicians. The so-called experts. The news media. If they had just been honest from the start, none of this would have been necessary. Somebody said that the cure couldn't be worse than the virus. That somebody was right.
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I'm pretty sure Zona knows this and although it's the politicians and Media destroying the world over, the virus is the tool to git 'er done! As Winston Churchill one stated "never let a good crisis go to waste"
 
ZonaBurgh said:
Early last Spring when the then "vaccine" was available to me, I jumped on it, as did many. Other than being a 5 year cancer survivor, I'm otherwise in pretty good shape for a 70 year old, normal weight, no cardiac, diabetic, blood pressure or lipid issues. While I don't regret getting the shots, the boosters that are being pressed on everyone will never see my arm. This virus will peter out like all viruses do, shot or not. This pandemic has destroyed this country and the world for that matter on so many levels, it's time to live our lives again.
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5 year cancer survivor? congrats! keep on!

on the flip side, my dad just got past his 5 year mark. masks up everywhere he goes, got the 3rd jab as soon as it was available.

i'm neither for nor against anyone getting the jab - to each their own. but everyone should be 100% aware of what can happen when getting it or not getting it.
 
Superman said:
but everyone should be 100% aware of what can happen when getting it or not getting it.
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The problem is how would you ever know? Depending on which side you fall on, the other side declares it misinformation immediately. Hell, our own CDC has been caught lying about this stuff and our politicians don't follow their own edicts on this stuff. Then, they sit there and say they can't understand why someone is skeptical or confused. People are skeptical and confused because the government had an agenda, the media covered it and played along and the messaging has been an unmitigated disaster. Just tell the truth. It's not hard. They can't even do that.
 
Troglodyte said:
Prove that Sandy Hook never actually happened and I’ll consider your request as potentially worthwhile.
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then what? need Tim to prove Jesus existed? maybe Allah? what else?
you're a goddamn idiot
 
Tim Steelersfan said:
My point was you were wrong. You spread misinformation.



She is an outlier in both. Young people do not get sick from Covid, vaxxed or not. Those numbers are miniscule. You continue to ignore this fact. 2 per 100K people under 18 are hospitalized. Hmmm.




I provided you ICU beds and total beds. Another proof point that you don't read, comprehend or both.




Wrong again. Read the data this time.

This was as of Friday. 81.83% of ICU beds in use.. 28.51% in use are due to Covid.

Please, for the love of God, know what you speak about.

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Again, her age made her an outlier, her vaccination status certainly did not. A hospitalized Covid patient being unvaccinated is not an outlier. And so what if childhood Covid hospitalizations are minuscule? They’re not as minuscule as adverse vaccine reactions.

Hospitalization levels vary widely from region to region, state to state, etc. They are also up 83% in the past 14 days. So where will we be 14 days from now? 28 days from now? Since you know what you’re talking about and all…

Here comes the “I’m not making any predictions, I’m saying right now” walk back in 3, 2, 1….
 
Badcat said:
I'm pretty sure Zona knows this and although it's the politicians and Media destroying the world over, the virus is the tool to git 'er done! As Winston Churchill one stated "never let a good crisis go to waste"
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Yep, I should have worded it better. The reaction to this virus has played hell on the entire planet.
 
Tim Steelersfan said:
Alex Berenson! InfoWars! Tucker Carlson! All whackjob Right Wing loonies, spreading conspiracy theories!!!

Funny how so much has proven to be true, is it not?
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Like none of it? Yes, it’s funny but also kinda disturbing.
 
Troglodyte said:
Again, her age made her an outlier, her vaccination status certainly did not. A hospitalized Covid patient being unvaccinated is not an outlier. And so what if childhood Covid hospitalizations are minuscule? They’re not as minuscule as adverse vaccine reactions.

Hospitalization levels vary widely from region to region, state to state, etc. They are also up 83% in the past 14 days. So where will we be 14 days from now? 28 days from now? Since you know what you’re talking about and all…

Here comes the “I’m not making any predictions, I’m saying right now” walk back in 3, 2, 1….
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wouldnt her age and vaxx status contribute to making her an anomaly? can you prove this person exists?
 
Troglodyte said:
Again, her age made her an outlier, her vaccination status certainly did not. A hospitalized Covid patient being unvaccinated is not an outlier. And so what if childhood Covid hospitalizations are minuscule? They’re not as minuscule as adverse vaccine reactions.

Hospitalization levels vary widely from region to region, state to state, etc. They are also up 83% in the past 14 days. So where will we be 14 days from now? 28 days from now? Since you know what you’re talking about and all…

Here comes the “I’m not making any predictions, I’m saying right now” walk back in 3, 2, 1….
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We will never really know the actual number of people hospitalized because of COVID as we know the number has included those hospitalized/admitted for something else, but tested positive for COVID while being admitted.

14 days, 28 days from now won't matter because the actual numbers are not actual.
 
MTC said:
He’s not bright
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Hey, VaxMan ...



Pfizer CEO: "2 Doses Offer Very Limited Protection If Any" against Omicron and "New Version of Shot That Will Cover Omicron Will Be Ready In March"
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So the goddamn CEO of the company which has made billions of dollars off the vaccines - and God bless the benefits the vaccine has provided - admits that two shots offer limited protection (i.e., are useless) against the Omicron.

And you keep pumping the vaccine organ like a good little monkey. You and Joe, two dullard freeloaders.
 
Troglodyte said:
A hospitalized Covid patient being unvaccinated is not an outlier.
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Yes it is if you are 18 and under.

Troglodyte said:
And so what if childhood Covid hospitalizations are minuscule?
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There's no question on this issue. Yesterday, in response to Lying Liberal Justice Sotamayor's stupid comments, Walensky was forced to admit there are 3,500 pediatric hospitalized Covid patients (no indication of WITH Covid or BECAUSE of Covid).

3,500. Miniscule.

Troglodyte said:
They’re not as minuscule as adverse vaccine reactions.
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Those 3,500 hospitalizations are likely much lower than the adverse reactions. Yet our Government (Federal and State) intentionally screws with numbers, holds back numbers, and issues false numbers. Up to Dec 31, 2021:

160K office visits last year due to vaccines
113K hospitalizations
111K urgent care visits

And given THESE numbers represent 1-10% of all events....

There are more adverse vaccine reactions.

Troglodyte said:
Hospitalization levels vary widely from region to region, state to state, etc. They are also up 83% in the past 14 days. So where will we be 14 days from now? 28 days from now? Since you know what you’re talking about and all…
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I'm giving you the dashboard from HHS. I provided this dashboard during the last wave when you and Tibsticles ran around here screaming about hospital capacity because your media told you to. The numbers then were highly similar to where they are now.

You make all the predictions you want to. That's not walking jack back, you're asking to play a dumbass game. Then again, you're a dumbass so the shoe fits.

I will note how funny it is that you went from cases early on to deaths to now your current fixation is hospitalizations. Know why? Because that is what your media is focused on...so therefore you have switched as well. Trying to keep people afraid.

Congrats, you're a sheep.
 
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Troglodyte said:
Like none of it? Yes, it’s funny but also kinda disturbing.
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Most all of it has been proven true from the Wuhan Lab to Gain of Function to falsified Covid death #s.

We've provided lists previously. Per the standard, you've forgotten them or ignored them because you're an idiot or an ideologue...or both.

Hit the back button. Go read. Actually....read.
 
See, because Alex Jones made his name by claiming Sandy Hook shooting was staged so if he says anything, you should not believe it because he lied about the school shooting. See how that works?

Fortunately for Floggy, that rule does not apply to the following:
  • Joe Biden, who lied about not enacting vaccine mandate, lied about his academic record, lied about his job history, lied about writing material that he actually stole, lied about visiting Nelson Mandela, lied about his massive social spending program "costing nothing," lied about being a "civil rights activist," lied about fixing the supply chain, lied about following the science regarding the Chinese flu, lied about his massive spending spree not raising taxes on anybody earning less than $400k per year, oh and HE HAS A PLAN TO DEFEAT THE VIRUS!!!!!!. You can still believe him.
  • Anthony Fauci, who not only lied about his NIH funding gain-of-function research in Wuhan but perjured himself in the process, lied about the origins of the Chinese flu, lied about mask efficacy or lack thereof. You can still believe him.
  • Rachel Walensky, who lied about the number of Chinese flu deaths, lied about the number of Chinese flu hospitalizations, lied about the benefits of school closures, lied about vaccine efficacy. You can still believe her.
  • Kamala Harris, who lied about Trump's response to the Chinese flu, lied about Trump supposedly ordering school closures, lied about Trump supposedly inheriting a booming economy from Barry the bungler, lied about her desire to ban fracking completely, lied about the cost of her green energy mandates, lied about the benefits to "climate change" for her multi-trillion dollar green energy mandates. You can still believe her.
  • "Vodka" Nancy Pelosi, who lied about being "set up" by a hairdresser, lied about following masking orders she helped enact, lied about Trump's condemnation of Charlottesville protesters, lied about Trump supposedly colluding with Russia, lied about Trump telephone call with Ukraine President, lied about the need to wear masks. You can still believe her.
Want me to go on Floggy??
 
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