Covid Vaccine

[Troglodyte]

Jake Tapper now arguing what WE were arguing in March 2020. Welcome to the future asshat.

Much more relevant with the extremely contagious Omicron variant, is it not? The odds that someone has an acute disease (Covid) at the same time they happen to be hospitalized for something else has increased several fold within the past few weeks.

 

[Ironcitysteelers]

Wait, somebody you work with tested positive for the Rona? Noooo ...

I think laboratories across the country are going to change "Petri dish" to "Jizzer dish" and start charging $50 for each one.

So a sock?

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Finally, a sliver of good news.

Cannabinoids Block Cellular Entry of SARS-CoV-2 and the Emerging Variants - PubMed

As a complement to vaccines, small-molecule therapeutic agents are needed to treat or prevent infections by severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus-2 (SARS-CoV-2) and its variants, which cause COVID-19. Affinity selection-mass spectrometry was used for the discovery of botanical ligands to...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

There's been plenty of good news reported here and other places. A lot of it in fact.

Novavax approved? Crickets from you.
Two other promising vaccines on the way? Crickets from you.
The NCAA considering natural immunity to be "vaccinated". Crickets from you.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Your post didn’t specify vaccinated deaths and, as such, was out of context (as noted).

Do you realize it’s an endorsement of the vaccines?

LMAO, no, it is not. The numbers have been provided to you. 25-40% of deaths being those vaccinated....you're just obtuse.

Do you not realize that now the CDC is having to defend the deaths AMONG THE VACCINATED and the media is asking questions???

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

The science the NCAA is relying on says natural immunity needs a booster every 90 days. That’s almost as ****** as J&J.

Can you even form a coherent sentence?

Interpreting your intent....yes, the NCAA is saying 90 days. For now. This is a step in the right direction. THE SCIENCE shows natural immunity to be long lasting, now up to 18 months+. So the NCAA isn't following THE SCIENCE they should be, yet.

90 days is as bad as ALL of the vaccines in use Floggy. The 3 in use in the USA suck. They all wane. Badly. Very, very badly.

 

[Troglodyte]

If you're honest, which I don't expect you to be, can you say my correction of your quote is 100% inaccurate?
4 comorbidities, who is to say that CHF wasn't the cause of death, exasperated by Covid possibly, but none of us are getting out of here alive.

If that average 4 comorbidity patient was healthy, would they have died with/of this virus?

To paraphrase Atul Gawande “[Nobody] dies of any one thing”

The point of “75% of vaccinated deaths having four comorbidities” is that the same thing cannot be said of the unvaccinated that died. They were generally younger and healthier by comparison. 85+% of people who are well aware that their immune system isn’t what it used to be got vaccinated, unfortunately that won’t help some of them and Covid (or the flu, or a bad cold) will be the final straw.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Much more relevant with the extremely contagious Omicron variant, is it not? The odds that someone has an acute disease (Covid) at the same time they happen to be hospitalized for something else has increased several fold within the past few weeks.

You're an idiot. An absolute, stupid, lying troll.

It doesn't matter if we are on variant 1 that has a death rate of 1.3% or on variant 4 and it has a death rate of 0.3% or the contagion levels of any of them - the reporting should be accurate. Always. At no point in time should someone in the hospital with an arrow through their thigh be deemed a hospitalized-because-of-Covid case, EVEN IF THEY HAVE COVID....no matter if it is day 1 or day 697 of a pandemic.

Are you seriously this stupid?

Yes. Yes....you are.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

I just had an employee test positive. She was double vaccinated last February and boosted in october. Her 14yr old tested positive last Thursday who was also double vaxxed. Both just have basic severe cold symptoms. Low fever, achy, cough, sneeze, etc etc..

So you're saying two things:

1. Being vaccinated does jack **** to keep you from catching Covid
2. You still work in the most dangerous place on the planet.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

I’m still battling a fever. Low fever at that. But it’s been since Saturday

That's how mine was. Got real hot day one, showered, it came down. That was a Friday. I battled a low fever for 5-6 days. Weird how persistent it was.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

They were generally younger and healthier by comparison.

It would hurt a normal person to be as wrong as you consistently are. They would show some self awareness and begin to speak less, proclaim less, pontificate less. Nope, you double and triple down on stupid daily.

Number of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) deaths in the U.S. as of January 6, 2022, by age*



You are making the claim that the unvaccinated population suffered far more younger deaths than the vaccinated population, when everything shows the elderly are the ones dying (vaxed or unvaxed). We would have seen an uptick in younger deaths, AND the media would have jumped all over that.

That is a super monumental claim you have made.

Prove it.

 

[Troglodyte]

LMAO, no, it is not. The numbers have been provided to you. 25-40% of deaths being those vaccinated....you're just obtuse.

Do you not realize that now the CDC is having to defend the deaths AMONG THE VACCINATED and the media is asking questions???

LOL! You have lost track of your arguments once again. You literally said that 75% of vaccinated deaths weren’t Covid deaths at all because of the four comorbidities.

 

[Troglodyte]

It would hurt a normal person to be as wrong as you consistently are. They would show some self awareness and begin to speak less, proclaim less, pontificate less. Nope, you double and triple down on stupid daily.

Number of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) deaths in the U.S. as of January 6, 2022, by age*

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You are making the claim that the unvaccinated population suffered far more younger deaths than the vaccinated population, when everything shows the elderly are the ones dying (vaxed or unvaxed). We would have seen an uptick in younger deaths, AND the media would have jumped all over that.

That is a super monumental claim you have made.

Prove it.

Showing all deaths is irrelevant to comparing vaccinated vs unvaccinated deaths. You’re delusional.

Minnesota’s COVID-19 fatalities trend younger. Most were unvaccinated.

“These deaths are preventable and didn’t have to happen,” a state health official said.

www.mercurynews.com

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

LOL! You have lost track of your arguments once again. You literally said that 75% of vaccinated deaths weren’t Covid deaths at all because of the four comorbidities.

No, that is not what I said. It's funny how much time you spend telling other people what they typed when you can't understand the simplest of sentences.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Showing all deaths is irrelevant to comparing vaccinated vs unvaccinated deaths. You’re delusional.

Minnesota’s COVID-19 fatalities trend younger. Most were unvaccinated.

“These deaths are preventable and didn’t have to happen,” a state health official said.

www.mercurynews.com

I asked you to prove your claim, that the unvaccinated who die are generally younger than the vaccinated who die.

Your article doesn't prove that. You made the claim as if this is the norm. I'm talking CDC, NIH, Johns Hopkins level stuff given the size and import of your claim.

And I'll hit you with a Flogtard response: "Mecury news!? JFC!!!" That article also does a terrible job of trying to correlate the data to a population. One person's opinion is listed. If you look at nearly everything said in the article, they say we saw the average death age drop by 9 year this year...and more people are unvaccinated, so therefore....and we guess this...and therefore it's possible that maybe we uh think...and eureka that's a wrap.

You made a grand claim. Provide a valid source.

PROVE IT

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

WV Gov Jim Justice, triple vaxxed, apparently not doing well at all. Someone told me if you get the vaccines, they prevent serious illness and all that.



CHARLESTON — Gov. Jim Justice has tested positive for the coronavirus.

The Governor’s Office late Tuesday announced Justice opted to get tested after experiencing “the sudden onset of symptoms,” including congestion and coughing.

Justice is fully vaccinated, and he has received a booster dose. He is experiencing mild symptoms and remains isolated at home. Justice said in a statement he was feeling “extremely unwell at this point.”

“While I was surprised that my test results came back positive, I’m thankful to the Lord above that I’ve been vaccinated, I’ve been boosted, and that I have an incredible support system, especially my loving family.”

The governor received monoclonal antibody treatment on Tuesday because of his age.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

This topic is becoming a mainstream news topic over the past few weeks. The scientific community is now really beginning to believe that persistent shots/boosting is going to be harmful.

Duh.

EU Warns Repeat Boosters Could Weaken Immune System

European Union regulators warned that frequent Covid-19 booster shots could adversely affect the immune system and may not be feasible.

www.bloomberg.com

European Union regulators warned this evening that frequent Covid booster shots could adversely affect the immune system and may not be feasible for Europe.

Repeat booster doses every four months could eventually weaken the immune system and tire out people, according to the European Medicines Agency. Instead, countries should leave more time between booster programs and tie them to the onset of the cold season in each hemisphere, following the blueprint set out by influenza vaccination strategies, the agency said.

The advice comes as some countries consider the possibility of offering people second booster shots in a bid to provide further protection against omicron infections. Earlier this month Israel became the first nation to start a second booster, or fourth shot, to those over 60. The U.K. has said that boosters are providing good levels of protection and there is no need for a second booster shot at the moment, but will review data as it evolves.

Boosters “can be done once, or maybe twice, but it’s not something that we can think should be repeated constantly,” Marco Cavaleri, the EMA head of vaccines strategy, said at a press briefing on Tuesday. “We need to think about how we can transition from the current pandemic setting to a more endemic setting.”

The EU regulator also said at the briefing that oral and intravenous antivirals, such as Paxlovid and Remdesivir, maintain their efficacy against omicron. The agency said that April is the soonest it could approve a new vaccine targeting a specific variant, as the process takes about three to four months. Some of the world’s largest vaccine-makers have said they are looking at producing vaccines that could target new variants.

 

[Superman]

The science the NCAA is relying on says natural immunity needs a booster every 90 days. That’s almost as ****** as J&J.

Also Flog

The vaccines WORK!

 

[Superman]

To paraphrase Atul Gawande “[Nobody] dies of any one thing”

The point of “75% of vaccinated deaths having four comorbidities” is that the same thing cannot be said of the unvaccinated that died. They were generally younger and healthier by comparison. 85+% of people who are well aware that their immune system isn’t what it used to be got vaccinated, unfortunately that won’t help some of them and Covid (or the flu, or a bad cold) will be the final straw.

are you now saying that the body's natural immune system might help stave off sickness and disease? oh, my. how intellectual of you to come to this startling revelation. truly a scholar.

 

[Steelr4evr]

Wait, somebody you work with tested positive for the Rona? Noooo ...

I think laboratories across the country are going to change "Petri dish" to "Jizzer dish" and start charging $50 for each one.

His whole company staff has had the rona 12 times each and run an iv of flu shot juice 24/7

 

[Troglodyte]

You're an idiot. An absolute, stupid, lying troll.

It doesn't matter if we are on variant 1 that has a death rate of 1.3% or on variant 4 and it has a death rate of 0.3% or the contagion levels of any of them - the reporting should be accurate. Always. At no point in time should someone in the hospital with an arrow through their thigh be deemed a hospitalized-because-of-Covid case, EVEN IF THEY HAVE COVID....no matter if it is day 1 or day 697 of a pandemic.

Are you seriously this stupid?

Yes. Yes....you are.

Math, Tim, math…

Covid lasts 10 days. If several million people have it, the odds that some of them are hospitalized with another disease is far greater than if (only) 50,000 have it.

 

[Troglodyte]

No, that is not what I said. It's funny how much time you spend telling other people what they typed when you can't understand the simplest of sentences.

OK, when you said “Covid deaths come crashing down” what were you saying exactly? And about whom?

 

[IndySteel]

 

[Troglodyte]

I asked you to prove your claim, that the unvaccinated who die are generally younger than the vaccinated who die.

Your article doesn't prove that. You made the claim as if this is the norm. I'm talking CDC, NIH, Johns Hopkins level stuff given the size and import of your claim.

And I'll hit you with a Flogtard response: "Mecury news!? JFC!!!" That article also does a terrible job of trying to correlate the data to a population. One person's opinion is listed. If you look at nearly everything said in the article, they say we saw the average death age drop by 9 year this year...and more people are unvaccinated, so therefore....and we guess this...and therefore it's possible that maybe we uh think...and eureka that's a wrap.

You made a grand claim. Provide a valid source.

PROVE IT

How can you be so unaware and misinformed? Here’s four more **** sandwiches, eat up.

Covid-19 Deaths in Delta Surge Trend Younger in U.S.

A surge in deaths caused by the highly contagious Delta variant is hitting working-age people hard while highlighting the risks for people who remain unvaccinated.

www.wsj.com

As Adult ICU Patients Hit Record Highs for the Pandemic, New Report Shows Unvaccinated People Are More Than 15 Times More Likely to Die From COVID-19 Compared to Vaccinated People | NCDHHS

The North Carolina Department of Health and Human Services yesterday released new data in the weekly respiratory surveillance report showing that unvaccinated people were 15.4 times, or 1,540 percent, more likely to die from COVID-19 during the four-week period ending Aug. 21, 2021. This comes...

www.ncdhhs.gov

Health officials: Majority of hospitalizations, deaths at Munson Healthcare are younger, unvaccinated people

TRAVERSE CITY — The majority of hospitalizations and deaths attributed to COVID-19 in the Grand Traverse region are younger, unvaccinated people, health officials said Tuesday.

www.record-eagle.com

Colorado hospitals overwhelmed by young, 'dramatically ill' unvaccinated COVID patients

Nationwide hospitalizations and deaths from COVID-19 have been on the rise again. The numbers are rising in the Midwest and New England, and remain dangerously high in parts of the West. Some states like Colorado have seen spikes that threaten to overwhelm hospitals. Amna Nawaz discusses with...

www.pbs.org

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Math, Tim, math…

Covid lasts 10 days. If several million people have it, the odds that some of them are hospitalized with another disease is far greater than if (only) 50,000 have it.

No you ******* dipshit, this isn't about math. It's about accurate reporting to the American public, eliminating deceptive and/or erroneous practices, as we have been calling for for 2 years.

It doesn't matter if you have 1 or a million deaths, it doesn't matter if contagion is mild or defcon5, it doesn't matter if the IFR is high or low....you report the truth.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

OK, when you said “Covid deaths come crashing down” what were you saying exactly? And about whom?

Exactly that. The overall Covid deaths numbers in the USA have been overinflated and the story around them is crashing down.

In 2020, every person who had covid or was suspected of having had covid, even if shot in the head, was called covid death. That inflated the numbers.
Hospitals were paid extra money for each covid case.
On...
and on....
and on.

The numbers we have been given will never be cleaned up they are so damaged. We will never know the true numbers.

And data like this shows that what we have been fed is bullshit. Vaccinated or not, if you have 4 comorbidities, there's a super high chance your death was likely caused by one of those instead of Covid. The CDC is admitting as such. As they should have in 2020.