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Covid Vaccine

SteelerInLebanon said:
And your side determines what is and isn’t a lie based on your own agenda. So dissent is ok as long as it doesn’t go against my beliefs.
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Sides? Beliefs? Let me know when 270 doctors come to Logan’s defense and we’ll talk about sides and beliefs. Until then let’s call it what it is.
 
SteelerInLebanon said:
And your side determines what is and isn’t a lie based on your own agenda. So dissent is ok as long as it doesn’t go against my beliefs.
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Modis Operandi for this brownshirt.
 
LeXX75 said:
so I know I aint the brightest bulb in the shed ..but how is this possible. My employee whom I got the covid from around the 28th of Dec has tested negative the last 2 weeks once with an at home test once at the doctor because he went with his prego GF as well as her testing negative after she had tested positive when he did. She went into labor today they went to the hospital....they both tested positive...something sure smells fishy...they are both vaxedx2
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The tests are about as effective as the shot
 
Troglodyte said:
A financial motive? You must find it strange that those medical institutions implemented vaccine mandates…

www.beckershospitalreview.com

COVID-19 will push hospital losses to $54B this year, report estimates

A new analysis shows the COVID-19 pandemic will continue to drive hospital and health system losses throughout 2021.
www.beckershospitalreview.com www.beckershospitalreview.com
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You now question financial motives too? LMAO.

Some hospitals were receiving up to $30K per patient listed as a Covid patient. Most states I believe it was like $15K per patient.

Are you going to argue that is NOT a financial motive?

Oh this ought to be good.
 
Troglodyte said:
“Because of Covid or due to Covid”?

WHAT!?!?
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It's actually becoming comical at this point. Like when I talk to my dog. Or I talk to a 3 year old.

OK Floggy....sit still and listen closely. And we will make it as simple as we can for your small brain.

This is what Bret said:

BAIER: Speaking of statistics, it seems to make a big difference if a person in the hospital is in the hospital for COVID-19 or with COVID-19. It's been almost a year since you've been running the agency. Do we have that split on numbers?

Here is Bret's picture: 1642190900829.png. Bret is a nice man. He said the words above^^^^

This is how the CDC director Walensky responded:

WALENSKY: You know, what I will say it differs by each variant. First of all, we're doing screening in many hospitals, of everybody who’s walking in the door.

Here is her picture: 1642190973986.png. She is an idiot. She said the words above^^^^

Her response is an acknowledgment of Bret's question. That means agreement. She is agreeing not only that there is a difference between patients hospitalized WITH Covid or BECAUSE of Covid, but says they are looking into it also and that their data sucks.

Maybe the video would help you to see you've been spanked again?


It may be pack up shop and go home time Floggy. I mean, I don't mind administering these beatings if you want to continue though.
 
Troglodyte said:
No, it couldn’t be 336,000. How? Statistically? If you were counting anyone who was within 7 years of death? Sure, I could possibly see that. Within 7 days of death? Nowhere close.

If the death ticker was partisan, why has it kept ticking after Inauguration Day?
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FEAR! It is the only way to keep your lemmings in line and from realizing the truth. The second they do you will be swept from power.
 
Troglodyte said:
It has to do with what you loonies are willing to believe.
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Everything we've believed so far has been proven true since the onset of this thing. I'm kinda good with that.
Troglodyte said:
Define “not 100%”.
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Define a Brazilian?

Troglodyte said:
How many deaths are you claiming and how do you estimate the likelihood of the coincidence of someone having Covid and dying of another cause completely unrelated to Covid?
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I'm not. Once again you miss the.....

200w.webp


We have been saying all along the numbers aren't accurate and overblown. We includes millions of people. By how much? Who knows. So you divert to asking by how much? Who could calculate that? Your CDC hasn't updated some critical data since October. There's no standard of reporting.

All we know is the #s are wrong. Probably way wrong but there's no way to track that.

Yet.
 
LeXX75 said:
so I know I aint the brightest bulb in the shed ..but how is this possible. My employee whom I got the covid from around the 28th of Dec has tested negative the last 2 weeks once with an at home test once at the doctor because he went with his prego GF as well as her testing negative after she had tested positive when he did. She went into labor today they went to the hospital....they both tested positive...something sure smells fishy...they are both vaxedx2
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See, the vaccines work!!!! /Floggy
 
Troglodyte said:
No, it couldn’t be 336,000. How? Statistically? If you were counting anyone who was within 7 years of death? Sure, I could possibly see that. Within 7 days of death? Nowhere close.

If the death ticker was partisan, why has it kept ticking after Inauguration Day?
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You're so *******, ridiculously, helplessly, bat-**** stupid, you screwed this up to.

He's talking about the death ticker.....you know...THIS death ticker

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The death tickers that were on CNN and PMSNBC all the time 247365 that suddenly disappeared in 2021 after say the Inauguration.

Despite having MORE deaths and MORE cases in 2021, the death tickers went away.

He's not talking about THIS type of death ticker you blithering imbecile:
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Troglodyte said:
It has to do with what you loonies are willing to believe.

Define “not 100%”. How many deaths are you claiming and how do you estimate the likelihood of the coincidence of someone having Covid and dying of another cause completely unrelated to Covid?
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let me sum up what most rational people now believe.

Vax may have worked somewhat to reduce severity of original COVID strains.
Vax now seems to do little if anything against delta and omicron
Vax does not prevent covid
vax does not prevent you spreading Covid
Delta and omicron are proven far less severe that previous variants
new studies are now suggesting that continued boosters can actually lower you body‘s immune system.
For people under 65 and without significant comorbidities, the side effects of the Vax are more worrisome than actually getting delta or omicron.
There are now proven therapeutic like monoclonal antibodies and ivermectin that make the Vax less necessary, nearly useless, or possibly even needlessly risky.

All very reasonable and based in fact.
 
Tim Steelersfan said:
You now question financial motives too? LMAO.

Some hospitals were receiving up to $30K per patient listed as a Covid patient. Most states I believe it was like $15K per patient.

Are you going to argue that is NOT a financial motive?

Oh this ought to be good.
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So you’re clueless about what a hospital stay costs let alone a week or two or three in the ICU.
 
Tim Steelersfan said:
It's actually becoming comical at this point. Like when I talk to my dog. Or I talk to a 3 year old.

OK Floggy....sit still and listen closely. And we will make it as simple as we can for your small brain.

This is what Bret said:

BAIER: Speaking of statistics, it seems to make a big difference if a person in the hospital is in the hospital for COVID-19 or with COVID-19. It's been almost a year since you've been running the agency. Do we have that split on numbers?

Here is Bret's picture: View attachment 7789. Bret is a nice man. He said the words above^^^^

This is how the CDC director Walensky responded:

WALENSKY: You know, what I will say it differs by each variant. First of all, we're doing screening in many hospitals, of everybody who’s walking in the door.

Here is her picture: View attachment 7790. She is an idiot. She said the words above^^^^

Her response is an acknowledgment of Bret's question. That means agreement. She is agreeing not only that there is a difference between patients hospitalized WITH Covid or BECAUSE of Covid, but says they are looking into it also and that their data sucks.

Maybe the video would help you to see you've been spanked again?


It may be pack up shop and go home time Floggy. I mean, I don't mind administering these beatings if you want to continue though.
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Please, she doesn’t say much of anything. You’re drawing conclusion while admitting you have no idea what the data shows.
 
Tim Steelersfan said:
You're so *******, ridiculously, helplessly, bat-**** stupid, you screwed this up to.

He's talking about the death ticker.....you know...THIS death ticker

View attachment 7791

The death tickers that were on CNN and PMSNBC all the time 247365 that suddenly disappeared in 2021 after say the Inauguration.

Despite having MORE deaths and MORE cases in 2021, the death tickers went away.

He's not talking about THIS type of death ticker you blithering imbecile:
View attachment 7792
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Uh, yeah. Covid and Covid deaths are still reported daily by every outlet. I thought you didn’t watch CNN?
 
tapeANaspirin2it said:
let me sum up what most rational people now believe.

Vax may have worked somewhat to reduce severity of original COVID strains.
Vax now seems to do little if anything against delta and omicron
Vax does not prevent covid
vax does not prevent you spreading Covid
Delta and omicron are proven far less severe that previous variants
new studies are now suggesting that continued boosters can actually lower you body‘s immune system.
For people under 65 and without significant comorbidities, the side effects of the Vax are more worrisome than actually getting delta or omicron.
There are now proven therapeutic like monoclonal antibodies and ivermectin that make the Vax less necessary, nearly useless, or possibly even needlessly risky.

All very reasonable and based in fact.
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Huh? We were talking about reported Covid deaths vs actual Covid deaths. Not about the vaccine.
 
Troglodyte said:
So you’re clueless about what a hospital stay costs let alone a week or two or three in the ICU.
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So you're clueless that other things that land people in the ICU don't offer a separate financial kick back?
 
Troglodyte said:
Please, she doesn’t say much of anything. You’re drawing conclusion while admitting you have no idea what the data shows.
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Oh she emphatically is. Says we are looking into that. If there had been no discrepancy by with covid and because of covid, she wouldn't admit they are screening patients as they come in....

God this is too easy.

You may be the only person of the planet still hanging on.
 
Tim Steelersfan said:
Oh she emphatically is. Says we are looking into that. If there had been no discrepancy by with covid and because of covid, she wouldn't admit they are screening patients as they come in....

God this is too easy.

You may be the only person of the planet still hanging on.
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Hospitals have been screening patients for Covid since April 2020, Tim.

God, you’re clueless.
 
Here’s something else becoming clear. The Dems are seeing the polls. They know that outside of NY and CA people are done with Covid. They have no fear of it and are living their lives normally and Dems know their over the top policies are going to crush them in the elections. So they are looking for a endgame where they don’t admit they are wrong.

That’s part of why they are desperate for mandates and Vax. They want to be able to say that their policies ended Covid and everything they did was justified. They can’t have it just go away on it’s own. Then people will feel violated and won’t as easily give up their freedoms for the next situation that they use to grab power.
 
Troglodyte said:
I provided a link showing hospital losses during Covid. Find something that refutes that. I’ll wait…
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And we've provided links showing what I'm claiming to be true. It is documented fact. You can find the information by state. How much each state was getting in kick backs per Covid case they handled.

There was irrefutably a financial incentive. It's not even arguable.

www.beckershospitalreview.com

State-by-state breakdown of federal aid per COVID-19 case

HHS recently began distributing the first $30 billion of emergency funding designated for hospitals in the Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security Act. Some of the states hit hardest by the COVID-19 pandemic will receive less funding than states touched relatively lightly, according to an...
www.beckershospitalreview.com www.beckershospitalreview.com

Below is a breakdown of how much funding per COVID-19 case each state will receive from the first $30 billion in aid. Kaiser Health News used a state breakdown provided to the House Ways and Means Committee by HHS along with COVID-19 cases tabulated by The New York Times for its analysis.

Alabama
$158,000 per COVID-19 case

Alaska
$306,000

Arizona
$23,000

Arkansas
$285,000

California
$145,000

Colorado
$58,000

Connecticut
$38,000

Delaware
$127,000

District of Columbia
$56,000

Florida
$132,000

Georgia
$73,000

Hawaii
$301,000

Idaho
$100,000

Illinois
$73,000

Indiana
$105,000

Iowa
$235,000

Kansas
$291,000

Kentucky
$297,000

Louisiana
$26,000

Maine
$260,000

Maryland
$120,000

Massachusetts
$44,000

Michigan
$44,000

Minnesota
$380,000

Mississippi
$166,000

Missouri
$175,000

Montana
$315,000

Nebraska
$379,000

Nevada
$98,000

New Hampshire
$201,000

New Jersey
$18,000

New Mexico
$171,000

New York
$12,000

North Carolina
$252,000

North Dakota
$339,000

Ohio
$180,000

Oklahoma
$291,000

Oregon
$220,000

Pennsylvania
$68,000

Rhode Island
$52,000

South Carolina
$186,000

South Dakota
$241,000

Tennessee
$166,000

Texas
$184,000

Utah
$94,000

Vermont
$87,000

Virginia
$201,000

Washington
$58,000

West Virginia
$471,000

Wisconsin
$163,000

Wyoming
$278,000

Yep. No financial incentive at all to **** with Covid numbers. Just $30Billion to be had.
 
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