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Covid Vaccine

so i was thinking of getting a covid test, and found i could get one at rite aid. I click on the website to see about maybe doing an appointment. It then redirects to a website run by google and it tells me a must have a googe ID to go forward. It then has a nice disclaimer that says google promises that they won't collect and use your date for any bad purposes.

I literally laughed out loud and closed the page.

Next i saw that there is a new testing site set being set up by the government. It says that you go there and you will have to scan a QR code with your phone and then the required forms will pop up on your phone and you can fill them out. Yeah, probably not installing a tracker on your phone or anything.

I think i'll pass on the testing. I already feel better, just slightly crappy. I got some groceries delivered and Monday is a holiday. I'll just stay home and watch football for a few days.
 

Professor Ehud Qimron, head of the Department of Microbiology and Immunology at Tel Aviv University and one of the leading Israeli immunologists, has written an open letter sharply criticizing the Israeli – and indeed global – management of the coronavirus pandemic.

Original letter in Hebrew
: N12 News (January 6, 2022); translated by Google/SPR. See also: Professor Qimron’s prediction from August 2020: “History will judge the hysteria” (INN).

∗∗∗

Ministry of Health, it’s time to admit failure​

In the end, the truth will always be revealed, and the truth about the coronavirus policy is beginning to be revealed. When the destructive concepts collapse one by one, there is nothing left but to tell the experts who led the management of the pandemic – we told you so.

Two years late, you finally realize that a respiratory virus cannot be defeated and that any such attempt is doomed to fail. You do not admit it, because you have admitted almost no mistake in the last two years, but in retrospect it is clear that you have failed miserably in almost all of your actions, and even the media is already having a hard time covering your shame.

You refused to admit that the infection comes in waves that fade by themselves, despite years of observations and scientific knowledge. You insisted on attributing every decline of a wave solely to your actions, and so through false propaganda “you overcame the plague.” And again you defeated it, and again and again and again.

You refused to admit that mass testing is ineffective, despite your own contingency plans explicitly stating so (“Pandemic Influenza Health System Preparedness Plan, 2007”, p. 26).

You refused to admit that recovery is more protective than a vaccine, despite previous knowledge and observations showing that non-recovered vaccinated people are more likely to be infected than recovered people. You refused to admit that the vaccinated are contagious despite the observations. Based on this, you hoped to achieve herd immunity by vaccination — and you failed in that as well.

You insisted on ignoring the fact that the disease is dozens of times more dangerous for risk groups and older adults, than for young people who are not in risk groups, despite the knowledge that came from China as early as 2020.

You refused to adopt the “Barrington Declaration”, signed by more than 60,000 scientists and medical professionals, or other common sense programs. You chose to ridicule, slander, distort and discredit them. Instead of the right programs and people, you have chosen professionals who lack relevant training for pandemic management (physicists as chief government advisers, veterinarians, security officers, media personnel, and so on).

You have not set up an effective system for reporting side effects from the vaccines, and reports on side effects have even been deleted from your Facebook page. Doctors avoid linking side effects to the vaccine, lest you persecute them as you did with some of their colleagues. You have ignored many reports of changes in menstrual intensity and menstrual cycle times. You hid data that allows for objective and proper research (for example, you removed the data on passengers at Ben Gurion Airport). Instead, you chose to publish non-objective articles together with senior Pfizer executives on the effectiveness and safety of vaccines.

Irreversible damage to trust

However, from the heights of your hubris, you have also ignored the fact that in the end the truth will be revealed. And it begins to be revealed. The truth is that you have brought the public’s trust in you to an unprecedented low, and you have eroded your status as a source of authority. The truth is that you have burned hundreds of billions of shekels to no avail – for publishing intimidation, for ineffective tests, for destructive lockdowns and for disrupting the routine of life in the last two years.

You have destroyed the education of our children and their future. You made children feel guilty, scared, smoke, drink, get addicted, drop out, and quarrel, as school principals around the country attest. You have harmed livelihoods, the economy, human rights, mental health and physical health.

You slandered colleagues who did not surrender to you, you turned the people against each other, divided society and polarized the discourse. You branded, without any scientific basis, people who chose not to get vaccinated as enemies of the public and as spreaders of disease. You promote, in an unprecedented way, a draconian policy of discrimination, denial of rights and selection of people, including children, for their medical choice. A selection that lacks any epidemiological justification.

When you compare the destructive policies you are pursuing with the sane policies of some other countries — you can clearly see that the destruction you have caused has only added victims beyond the vulnerable to the virus. The economy you ruined, the unemployed you caused, and the children whose education you destroyed — they are the surplus victims as a result of your own actions only.

There is currently no medical emergency, but you have been cultivating such a condition for two years now because of lust for power, budgets and control. The only emergency now is that you still set policies and hold huge budgets for propaganda and psychological engineering instead of directing them to strengthen the health care system.

This emergency must stop!

Professor Udi Qimron, Faculty of Medicine, Tel Aviv University
 

Professor Ehud Qimron, head of the Department of Microbiology and Immunology at Tel Aviv University and one of the leading Israeli immunologists, has written an open letter sharply criticizing the Israeli – and indeed global – management of the coronavirus pandemic.

Original letter in Hebrew
: N12 News (January 6, 2022); translated by Google/SPR. See also: Professor Qimron’s prediction from August 2020: “History will judge the hysteria” (INN).

∗∗∗

Ministry of Health, it’s time to admit failure​

In the end, the truth will always be revealed, and the truth about the coronavirus policy is beginning to be revealed. When the destructive concepts collapse one by one, there is nothing left but to tell the experts who led the management of the pandemic – we told you so.

Two years late, you finally realize that a respiratory virus cannot be defeated and that any such attempt is doomed to fail. You do not admit it, because you have admitted almost no mistake in the last two years, but in retrospect it is clear that you have failed miserably in almost all of your actions, and even the media is already having a hard time covering your shame.

You refused to admit that the infection comes in waves that fade by themselves, despite years of observations and scientific knowledge. You insisted on attributing every decline of a wave solely to your actions, and so through false propaganda “you overcame the plague.” And again you defeated it, and again and again and again.

You refused to admit that mass testing is ineffective, despite your own contingency plans explicitly stating so (“Pandemic Influenza Health System Preparedness Plan, 2007”, p. 26).

You refused to admit that recovery is more protective than a vaccine, despite previous knowledge and observations showing that non-recovered vaccinated people are more likely to be infected than recovered people. You refused to admit that the vaccinated are contagious despite the observations. Based on this, you hoped to achieve herd immunity by vaccination — and you failed in that as well.

You insisted on ignoring the fact that the disease is dozens of times more dangerous for risk groups and older adults, than for young people who are not in risk groups, despite the knowledge that came from China as early as 2020.

You refused to adopt the “Barrington Declaration”, signed by more than 60,000 scientists and medical professionals, or other common sense programs. You chose to ridicule, slander, distort and discredit them. Instead of the right programs and people, you have chosen professionals who lack relevant training for pandemic management (physicists as chief government advisers, veterinarians, security officers, media personnel, and so on).

You have not set up an effective system for reporting side effects from the vaccines, and reports on side effects have even been deleted from your Facebook page. Doctors avoid linking side effects to the vaccine, lest you persecute them as you did with some of their colleagues. You have ignored many reports of changes in menstrual intensity and menstrual cycle times. You hid data that allows for objective and proper research (for example, you removed the data on passengers at Ben Gurion Airport). Instead, you chose to publish non-objective articles together with senior Pfizer executives on the effectiveness and safety of vaccines.

Irreversible damage to trust

However, from the heights of your hubris, you have also ignored the fact that in the end the truth will be revealed. And it begins to be revealed. The truth is that you have brought the public’s trust in you to an unprecedented low, and you have eroded your status as a source of authority. The truth is that you have burned hundreds of billions of shekels to no avail – for publishing intimidation, for ineffective tests, for destructive lockdowns and for disrupting the routine of life in the last two years.

You have destroyed the education of our children and their future. You made children feel guilty, scared, smoke, drink, get addicted, drop out, and quarrel, as school principals around the country attest. You have harmed livelihoods, the economy, human rights, mental health and physical health.

You slandered colleagues who did not surrender to you, you turned the people against each other, divided society and polarized the discourse. You branded, without any scientific basis, people who chose not to get vaccinated as enemies of the public and as spreaders of disease. You promote, in an unprecedented way, a draconian policy of discrimination, denial of rights and selection of people, including children, for their medical choice. A selection that lacks any epidemiological justification.

When you compare the destructive policies you are pursuing with the sane policies of some other countries — you can clearly see that the destruction you have caused has only added victims beyond the vulnerable to the virus. The economy you ruined, the unemployed you caused, and the children whose education you destroyed — they are the surplus victims as a result of your own actions only.

There is currently no medical emergency, but you have been cultivating such a condition for two years now because of lust for power, budgets and control. The only emergency now is that you still set policies and hold huge budgets for propaganda and psychological engineering instead of directing them to strengthen the health care system.

This emergency must stop!

Professor Udi Qimron, Faculty of Medicine, Tel Aviv University

One cannot like this enough.

Well said Professor. Eloquently stated.

This current experiment must end. The approaches have failed. Utterly, failed.
 
I know many people that rushed out, even driving to a different county, to get the shot. That was a while ago before anyone had seen any side effects. I wonder how they feel about being in such a rush to get injected with the experimental substance now?

I know a guy that had a stroke 4 weeks after getting his second injection.

They used to say the injection was the answer. Now they say the injection prevents hospitalization. I suppose if you die you need a funeral home, not a hospital. This must be what they were talking about.
 
Posted on Facebook about my kid getting Covid again, this time while vaxed so friends/family knew, but also to ask them "How many of the people that you know who have Covid would you say ar vaxed?"

One friend is a nurse. Her reply:

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83.3% of her patients this week in the Covid ward are vaccinated. Hospitalized.

But...the vaccines work.


Everyone I know with the this new nasty cold mutation has had their worthless flu shot. E V E R Y O N E. That's at least 15 people right this very moment.

And you really can't differentiate it from the common cold. Be it a nasty cold.
 
Protect the vulnerable, the rest get back to normal.

Tibby and Floggy's version of hell:

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I always thought it was handburger...because you hold it with your hand....Wow man.

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Everyone I know with the this new nasty cold mutation has had their worthless flu shot. E V E R Y O N E. That's at least 15 people right this very moment.

And you really can't differentiate it from the common cold. Be it a nasty cold.

Your post made me think about something... All of us have been forthright about our Rona experiences these past 2 years. I've shared every instance with my family and me getting it. Sarge has. OFTB has. Stupid has. All of you all...have. We've all been forthright about our experiences and honest.

Which made me think. You know what crowd would not be honest and not share if they had it/got it? TibsFlogged21. The virtue signaling must continue. To admit having Covid would be to admit the vaccines don't work as well as they should also, so never confess.

Question: So what do you think the odds are that they/their families have had it and they've kept it quiet?

My boys have had it twice. OFTB's family has had it twice while being vaxed. I think Sarge said his family, 2x each and vaxed. Many of the rest of you have admitted as such. How many people do you know that have NEVER had it? I can think of maybe 4 total in my network.

Yet they and their families haven't gotten it...once. :unsure::unsure::unsure:
 
One cannot like this enough.

Well said Professor. Eloquently stated.

This current experiment must end. The approaches have failed. Utterly, failed.
I like what he said last year “history will judge the hysteria.”

It wasn’t that long ago the unvaccinated were being wished dead as Death dealers to the rest of humanity. Well I mean some of that probably is still out there, but we sure have seen a lot of people shut up pretty quick when they realized it could be contracted and spread by the vaccinated.
 
Yet they and their families haven't gotten it...once.

All five of us in our immediate fam got 2x vaccines + booster shots. We've been consistent with wearing masks on public transport & indoors while shopping and the like. Thankfully, we've steered clear of catching the Rona thus far. I'd say half of the kids in both my daughters' classes have had it, as well as numerous teachers. My son's been working criss-cross across the States over the past year for an event organizer, helping run EDC Las Vegas, Bonnaroo (got nixed when he got there due to hurricane), Imagine Festival, Firefly, Freaky Deaky, Astroworld, Electric Daisy. Managed to not catch Covid during it all, fully masked and 3x innoculated.

Have plenty of friends, other fam members, staffers who've caught it, some got real sick, others hardly noticed. Some vaxxed, some not. One friend in his mid forties passed away, leaving a thriving ceramic factory behind, along with wife and three kids. Was an ardent covid/vaccine denier. Another friend, an excellent lawyer, just passed last week in Massachusetts. Mid fifties, diabetic, anti-vaxxer. An ex-Olympic gymnast here in town, in his mid fifties, tip-top physical shape, no underlying illnesses, has been on a ventilator for over a month, fighting for his life. Checked his FB feed, full of anti-vax, bullshit propaganda.

All in all, my tangible, personal experience matches up with what seems to be the case worldwide. Mitigation measures work, vaccines + booster shots will keep you from getting gravely ill or dying. No guarantees, regardless what you do, but you can at least take some easy steps to safeguard yourself, family and loved ones. That's all I know.
 
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All five of us in our immediate fam got 2x vaccines + booster shots. We've been consistent with wearing masks on public transport & indoors while shopping and the like. Thankfully, we've steered clear of catching the Rona thus far. I'd say half of the kids in both my daughters' classes have had it, as well as numerous teachers. My son's been working criss-cross across the States over the past year for an event organizer, helping run EDC Las Vegas, Bonnaroo (got nixed when he got there due to hurricane), Imagine Festival, Firefly, Freaky Deaky, Astroworld, Electric Daisy. Managed to not catch Covid during it all, fully masked and 3x innoculated.

Have plenty of friends, other fam members, staffers who've caught it, some got real sick, others hardly noticed. Some vaxxed, some not. One friend in his mid forties passed away, leaving a thriving ceramic factory behind, along with wife and three kids. Was an ardent covid/vaccine denier. Another friend, an excellent lawyer, just passed last week in Massachusetts. Mid fifties, diabetic, anti-vaxxer. An ex-Olympic gymnast here in town, in his mid thirties, tip-top physical shape, no underlying illnesses, has been on a ventilator for over a month, fighting for his life. Checked his FB feed, full of anti-vax, bullshit propaganda.

All in all, my tangible, personal experience matches up with what seems to be the case worldwide. Mitigation measures work, vaccines + booster shots will keep you from getting gravely ill or dying. No guarantees, regardless what you do, but you can at least take some easy steps to safeguard yourself, family and loved ones. That's all I know.
Just because your friend is a gymnast or being in shape doesn’t mean he’s healthy. There are a lot of competitve sport athletes who can eat fast food every meal, smoke like an 1800’s freight train and still have ripped physiques.


Being healthy is ensuring proper rest, hydration and hitting your macronutrients. That’s a lot more helpful in combatting any illness than looking the part
 
Official Covid death totals from New South Wales for January 12th. 14 of 22 deaths, vaccinated.

 
Just because your friend is a gymnast or being in shape doesn’t mean he’s healthy. There are a lot of competitve sport athletes who can eat fast food every meal, smoke like an 1800’s freight train and still have ripped physiques. Being healthy is ensuring proper rest, hydration and hitting your macronutrients. That’s a lot more helpful in combatting any illness than looking the part

Agreed. This dude was healthy, not just in good physical shape. You'll just have to take my word for it. He took good care of himself. Other than buying into the covid-hoax & anti-vaxx conpiracies, which has now left him on the edge of life & death for so long, they've stopped updating his condition.
 
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Your post made me think about something... All of us have been forthright about our Rona experiences these past 2 years. I've shared every instance with my family and me getting it. Sarge has. OFTB has. Stupid has. All of you all...have. We've all been forthright about our experiences and honest.

Which made me think. You know what crowd would not be honest and not share if they had it/got it? TibsFlogged21. The virtue signaling must continue. To admit having Covid would be to admit the vaccines don't work as well as they should also, so never confess.

Question: So what do you think the odds are that they/their families have had it and they've kept it quiet?

My boys have had it twice. OFTB's family has had it twice while being vaxed. I think Sarge said his family, 2x each and vaxed. Many of the rest of you have admitted as such. How many people do you know that have NEVER had it? I can think of maybe 4 total in my network.

Yet they and their families haven't gotten it...once. :unsure::unsure::unsure:
I’ve never had it. As far as I know anyway.
 
Meh to date I know of exactly one person to die from covid… i have no idea if he was vaxed or not…. He was a guy who used to occasionally drink at thecsame bar as I did…. In his sixties…. Took a trip to visit a friend on the west coast and got it and died out there…. The only person from my unvaccinated friend group to even be hospitalized is me… and i had a preexisting lung infection when i got it….

I know a bunch of vaccinated people who were already hospitalized when they got it so they really don’t count… mostly its been not relevant here…

Now i do know two much older people that died of strokes after being vaccinated and getting it, but they were already recovered so they don’t hit the books anywhere
 
Yep.
That’s a hysterical parody.
I’ll bet paychecks that you’ve never actually listened to a single podcast of his and simply wait for Rachel Maddow or Cooper Anderson’s interpretation of the article they read about an episode in The Huffington Post to tell you how you should feel about it.
 
I’ll bet paychecks that you’ve never actually listened to a single podcast of his and simply wait for Rachel Maddow or Cooper Anderson’s interpretation of the article they read about an episode in The Huffington Post to tell you how you should feel about it.

Ironically enough, I haven't listened to a single thing Maddow or Anderson Cooper have said in probably six months, maybe more, intermittently. I have listened in on a few Rogan podcasts, I know what he's about. Hold onto your paycheck instead of throwing it around so recklessly.
 
Ironically enough, I haven't listened to a single thing Maddow or Anderson Cooper have said in probably six months, maybe more.....
Nobody does.
 
I wonder what the percentage of vaxed who wouldn’t get it on a do over is? I know a lot who are refusing to get boostered… i know a bunch refusing to vax their kids and some of them were almost as pro vax as tibs and troglodyte are… a lot of data has come out especially among the medical professionals to make people nervous


Again they really should have just given informed consent
 
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