Cowher calls out the Rooney traditions

[str8liner]

This year is about a playoff win.

If they get bounced in the first round again the fire Tomlin chants will start back up.

 

[bkwheat28]

I won’t open after reading through this thread. Obviously fake news. On a side note, @warriors42 dick itch comment was ******* hilarious and I can’t quit laughing about it

 

[SojournerSteel]

Deuce need to tell Cowher to kiss his ***, we're doing things the Steeler Way, keeping Tomlin forever and letting him hire his buddies as assistants, and if we never win another playoff game at least we've only three head coaches since 1969.

Maybe Tomlin will remind people that Bill Cowher "is an old white guy" like when he threw DL under the bus when his feathers got ruffled years ago,

 

[Troglodyte]

The Rooney Rule Rooneys are in a tough situation with Tomlin. If they fire him, they will come under scrutiny, fair or not. If they don’t replace him with another minority head coach, it’ll be even worse. They’d almost be limited to minority candidates. I think they’re proud to be known for the Rooney Rule and are clinging to the hope that they’ll be proven right in sticking with Tomlin. Not defending them, just explaining why they would be reluctant to fire him. Anyway, it’s not happening anytime soon.

 

[diver]

The Rooney Rule Rooneys are in a tough situation with Tomlin. If they fire him, they will come under scrutiny, fair or not. If they don’t replace him with another minority head coach, it’ll be even worse. They’d almost be limited to minority candidates. I think they’re proud to be known for the Rooney Rule and are clinging to the hope that they’ll be proven right in sticking with Tomlin. Not defending them, just explaining why they would be reluctant to fire him. Anyway, it’s not happening anytime soon.

Idk, you are probably right with the way the world is, but employing him for 18 years or what ever it is to this point isn't enough to show they are racist?

 

[SojournerSteel]

The Rooney Rule Rooneys are in a tough situation with Tomlin. If they fire him, they will come under scrutiny, fair or not. If they don’t replace him with another minority head coach, it’ll be even worse. They’d almost be limited to minority candidates. I think they’re proud to be known for the Rooney Rule and are clinging to the hope that they’ll be proven right in sticking with Tomlin. Not defending them, just explaining why they would be reluctant to fire him. Anyway, it’s not happening anytime soon.

If they fired him the sports intelligentsia would go thermonuclear because he never had a losing season and Marvin Lewis and Lovie Smith would also be included in the equation. They would absolutely never fire Tomlin in large part because of nonlosing season baseline but also to your point the intangible social capital invested. Not to mention he's universally revered by the casual fan -- none of which has anything to do with the price of tea in China or managing timeouts at the end of halves.

He'd have to walk away or have a quietly massaged exit behind the scenes with face saving for all.

 

[Avoid_Lloyd]

Ok. If true, how? How do you want the Steelers to evolve? This is about the coach. It is always about the coach. It is a damn obsession. What else is there? They spend to the cap every year, so the old trope about them being cheap is bullshiit.

They aren't getting rid of Tomlin. I wish they would have moved on too, I really do, but I'm left with 3 choices as I see it. Deal with it and continue to be a Steeler fan, be a fan of some other team, or just quit being a fan of football altogether. So I just choose to be a Steeler fan and hope. But this shiit just gets so damn redundant.

What's more redundant-watching this team not win a playoff game and being basically an irrelevant franchise for the past 7 seasons compared to where Cowher had this team, or hearing people complain about it on a chatboard devoted to Steeler football?

I swear you old heads need to shut the **** up about go find another team, spoiler alert we've been following the team all our lives, ain't gonna happen, you could always put us on ignore or leave the board yourself if its so terrible for you...as much as I love this board its getting more dead as they years go by so telling people to go away/stop following football probably isn't in your best interests if you want to come on here and preach to people skippy...

To answer you question on how? If they're not going to get rid of Tomlin, the least the Rooney's could do is:
1. Give more power to a young/smart GM on the rise like Omar to be involved in hiring/making decisions on if to retain assistant coaches
2. Pay top dollar to the assistant coaches
3. Invest top dollar into the scouting program

 

[steelhurt]

I actually saw this the other day and thought, this is just click bait. No way Bill Cowher does something like this. That’s just not Bill and how he operates.
Besides, he knows the Steelers are all in on Tomlin so why in the hell would he jeopardize his relationship with the Rooney’s even if he did feel that way? He wouldn’t! Just sayin!

 

[diver]

What's more redundant-watching this team not win a playoff game and being basically an irrelevant franchise for the past 7 seasons compared to where Cowher had this team, or hearing people complain about it on a chatboard devoted to Steeler football?

I swear you old heads need to shut the **** up about go find another team, spoiler alert we've been following the team all our lives, ain't gonna happen, you could always put us on ignore or leave the board yourself if its so terrible for you...as much as I love this board its getting more dead as they years go by so telling people to go away/stop following football probably isn't in your best interests if you want to come on here and preach to people skippy...

To answer you question on how? If they're not going to get rid of Tomlin, the least the Rooney's could do is:
1. Give more power to a young/smart GM on the rise like Omar to be involved in hiring/making decisions on if to retain assistant coaches
2. Pay top dollar to the assistant coaches
3. Invest top dollar into the scouting program

Shiit, I never told you to find another team. I simply stated that is the choices I feel I'm faced with. Notice I said I, not you. I never told you what you should or should not do. Stop being over emotional. Maybe you youngasters need to uncinch your panties and get out of your safe rooms.

You are correct. it's a message board. You have the right to gripe all the time about Tomlin. I have the right to say I get tired of hearing it.

 

[Avoid_Lloyd]

Shiit, I never told you to find another team. I simply stated that is the choices I feel I'm faced with. Notice I said I, not you. I never told you what you should or should not do. Stop being over emotional. Maybe you youngasters need to uncinch your panties and get out of your safe rooms.

You are correct. it's a message board. You have the right to gripe all the time about Tomlin. I have the right to say I get tired of hearing it.

oh, I'm no youngster

Tomlin is the core of the problem: would you agree or disagree with that? He's going to get a lot of focus, but by all means complain away about what people post here if it gets your rocks off

 

[diver]

oh, I'm no youngster

Tomlin is the core of the problem: would you agree or disagree with that? He's going to get a lot of focus, but by all means complain away about what people post here if it gets your rocks off

Look, I would have moved on from him. Honestly, he would have been gone for something not football related about 2016. That was the little debacle with AV and the National Anthem in Chicago that time. AV was an Army vet that saw combat. As he coach, you tell the team we are all going out to support the one guy who did that. But if it's football related, I don't know how he survived the Matt Canada debacle.

But they aren't firing him. They aren't. I'm old enough to remember Chuck Noll. What a great coach. But not so much in the '80s. In the '80s it got to the point where you realized that he was going to leave when he wanted to, not the other way around and you stopped worrying about it. You saw a Bill Walsh, Joe Gibbs, or Parcells, or Jimmy Johnson...these younger or more innovative guys and got jealous. It's kinda where we are now.

 

[Avoid_Lloyd]

Look, I would have moved on from him. Honestly, he would have been gone for something not football related about 2016. That was the little debacle with AV and the National Anthem in Chicago that time. AV was an Army vet that saw combat. As he coach, you tell the team we are all going out to support the one guy who did that. But if it's football related, I don't know how he survived the Matt Canada debacle.

But they aren't firing him. They aren't.

I agree 100% with all of this, that Bears game is the only Steeler game I didn't watch in the last 25 years, turned it off right after the anthem-in retrospect I don't hold that against Tomlin-it was league wide and would have taken more stones than any NFL leader had to run against it in that moment...I think he gave a speech later that kind of atoned for it as well

Its a chatboard and venting is what its for to a degree tho

 

[SteelerSask2]

I really don't get this. There is no specific quote that could be perceived as disrespectful to the Rooney family. Maybe a generic statement that game is evolving and you can't stay static. Maybe.

 

[suncitysteel]

When you get sensationalist statements like the awkward title and this:

"While the public fallout remains to be seen, one thing is clear: Cowher’s remarks have sent shockwaves through Pittsburgh’s football community, leaving fans, analysts, and the Rooney family themselves wondering what comes next…"

... you know you're reading fake news. Then like someone said here, those alleged Cowher statements are nowhere else to be found on the interwebs.


I'd like for us to somehow win a SB this year or next, allowing Tomlin to ride off into the sunset on top and onto his next chapter in life. He will forever remain a Pittsburgh legend!! . Then bring in a disciplinarian. I've been reading about IU coach Curt Cignetti. His wiki page says he's a Pittsburgh native, learned under Saban, and he even recruited Russell Wilson while an assistant at NC St. More from wiki:

Curt Cignetti's coaching philosophy reflects a disciplined, detail-oriented approach shaped by his experiences, including a formative four-year stint under Nick Saban, which he describes as a "doctorate-level course" in program building. He emphasizes structure, organization, and a commitment to excellence, focusing not only on practice and in-game strategy but also on maintaining a culture of accountability and high standards—even during sustained success. Central to his philosophy is a relentless drive to keep players and staff motivated, ensuring complacency never sets in.

But it certainly isn't the Steeler/Rooney or even the NFL way to give an NFL HC job to college coaches who have no pro experience. But one can imagine...

 

[paperclip]

cowher would never harshly criticize the Rooney family

this thread is lame

 

[Fiji Mariner]

The Steelers are indeed stuck in the past and the league has evolved beyond a place that allows their methodology to keep them as relevant SB contenders.

They may stumble into a playoff win someday, but sans getting lucky and having a franchise QB fall
in their lap again they will largely remain irrelevant as a true contender until they do evolve to modern era football.

Hope the idiots drafting in front of us drop
Another HoF QB in our laps soon…pretty much the only hope to overcoming the hurdles of playing the modern game while stuck with obsolete outdated philosophies.

 

[Fiji Mariner]

I wonder what Bill was alluding to in terms of evolving from traditions…. fire coaches every few years like many other owners do until they get it right?

Don’t waste 1st round picks on RBs in a passing league?
Don’t allocate so many assets to D in an offensive league?
Move on from a coach whose message has gotten stale and allows the players to feel too comfortable?
Spend assets to attain an actual franchise QB in a
passing league?
Negotiate in season if necessary to retain talent?
Move on from the philosophy of loyalty above all else (what have you done for me lately in the Not for long league)?
Move on to a legit X and O passing guru OC?
Leave the 3 yards and a cloud of dust mentality?
Maybe invest in better facilities and training staff?

Probably a combination of a few or several things

 

[Black & Gold Bleeder]

fiji, you tweaking on ice?

 

[slashsteel]

Don’t waste 1st round picks on RBs in a passing league?
Don’t allocate so many assets to D in an offensive league?
Move on from a coach whose message has gotten stale and allows the players to feel too comfortable?
Spend assets to attain an actual franchise QB in a
passing league?
Negotiate in season if necessary to retain talent?
Move on from the philosophy of loyalty above all else (what have you done for me lately in the Not for long league)?
Move on to a legit X and O passing guru OC?
Leave the 3 yards and a cloud of dust mentality?
Maybe invest in better facilities and training staff?

Probably a combination of a few or several things

Hard to get another franchise when they win yearly.

They probably will just have to keep using free agency as their hope to get lucky.

 

[MTC]

Here is another thing from that site

https://nellysports.co.uk/2024/12/17/news-now-san-francisco-49ers-staggering-million-pounds-deal-collapses-in-tears/

The person or AI writing this confuses things that happen in European foootball aka Soccer with American football...


Its a trash clickbait news generator... thats why the quotes are vague..

Yeah the story is fake. Buncha pop ads

 

[MTC]

I wonder what Bill was alluding to in terms of evolving from traditions…. fire coaches every few years like many other owners do until they get it right?

Nothing. Article is not real

 

[Fiji Mariner]

fiji, you tweaking on ice?

Naw, lol
Just woke up and found out
It’s ******* Groundhog’s Day again!!!!!
WTF!!!!!!!!!

 

[slashsteel]

Naw, lol
Just woke up and found out
It’s ******* Groundhog’s Day again!!!!!
WTF!!!!!!!!!

What do you mean …… again.

That would suggest it left and came back.

 

[Fiji Mariner]

Sorry Slash, still
It’s STILL effin Groundhog’s Day

i was sayin again and again and again and again and again…we wake up…yup GHD again!!!

 

[Fiji Mariner]

Imma need a bacon sandwich if I gotta sit through this **** show again