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Cutch traded to the Giants

I am surprised they didn't trade Rivero.

Have to wander how many times they will have the lead and actually need a closer the next 4 years lol.

And to think we actually thought they gave a **** about winning for a few years.

Silly us.

All you need to know about Nutless Nutting, he said FOREVER that he would invest the money into the team when they had a team that could be competitive and was worth investing money into. When they had a team that was producing, winning, and making into the post season, he never dropped one more dime into the payroll. He is without a doubt the biggest full of **** and incompetent owner of any professional sports team. Haslam in Cleveland is a God compared to the Nutless Wonder.
 
If they were smart they would go a long way towards restoring the fans' faith if they used the money they are saving by trading Cole and Cutch to sign a couple of respectable free agents. I doubt they will do it, but it would sure would make a lot of sense. Probably too much sense.
 
If they were smart they would go a long way towards restoring the fans' faith if they used the money they are saving by trading Cole and Cutch to sign a couple of respectable free agents. I doubt they will do it, but it would sure would make a lot of sense. Probably too much sense.

If history is any indication they would overlay for past prime free agents anyway.
 
After a few days to settle in after these deals, why are the Pirates trying to sell contending rather than owning up to a rebuild?
 
After a few days to settle in after these deals, why are the Pirates trying to sell contending rather than owning up to a rebuild?

Seems like they are trying to do a little of both....which usually is a failing recipe. They could solve so many of their problems by signing a legit free agent of two and showing fans (not to mention the guys already on the roster) they are at least making an effort for 2018. Don't know that they care enough about winning to do that though.
 
The Pirates continue to be my favorite Minor League team with moves like this...
 
Just saw a raffle where the top prize is two Pirate season tickets. The second place prize was four season tickets.

You could sell those on ebay and make $100 and $200 off of those!
 
Seems like they are trying to do a little of both....which usually is a failing recipe. They could solve so many of their problems by signing a legit free agent of two and showing fans (not to mention the guys already on the roster) they are at least making an effort for 2018. Don't know that they care enough about winning to do that though.

Now the players' union wants to investigate the Pirates and Marlins for allegedly not spending their revenue sharing money on players and improving the team.

https://sports.yahoo.com/mlbpa-looking-pirates-marlins-spending-habits-174042989.html

The Major League Baseball Players Association is investigating whether to file grievances against the Miami Marlins and Pittsburgh Pirates for circumventing rules in the collective-bargaining agreement that call for teams to put revenue-sharing dollars back into baseball operations, sources familiar with the situation told Yahoo Sports.

An offseason in which both teams have dumped star players piqued the interest of the players’ union, particularly as both teams receive in excess of $50 million from the program that redistributes money from higher-revenue to lower-revenue teams. The union has targeted both teams in the past, coming to an agreement with the Marlins to increase spending in 2010 and looking into the Pirates’ spending habits.

The potential grievances come during an offseason in which a frozen free-agent market has left players confused and emboldened teams to dig in and seek bargains. Neither the Marlins nor the Pirates have bothered to participate, not signing one major league free agent with spring training less than three weeks away.

The process to go from investigating a grievance to filing one is long, and with the Marlins’ current payroll in the $87 million range and the Pirates’ near $84 million, it could prove a difficult case to make. Nonetheless, the union’s power under the collective-bargaining agreement to serve as a watchdog on teams potentially pocketing revenue-sharing dollars or using them to buy down debt is important to help protect not just the players from having money shielded but showing good faith to the larger-market teams that distribute the money.

The CBA says “each Club shall use its revenue sharing receipts … in an effort to improve its performance on the field.” Each team files an annual financial-outlay document that includes its payroll, expenses from player development, revenue and other metrics. Should the union and MLB find issue with a team’s financials, commissioner Rob Manfred can penalize the team or, as was the case with the Marlins, impel it to spend.

The Marlins’ history does not help their case, as a team’s historical use of revenue-sharing money can be held against it. At the same time, the severe debt that new Marlins ownership is trying to mitigate can play into the parties’ thinking as well, according to the CBA. Miami has dealt star outfielders Giancarlo Stanton, Marcell Ozuna and Christian Yelich this winter in addition to All-Star second baseman Dee Gordon.

The Pirates’ financial situation is far rosier. Over the past eight years, Pirates teams have profited more than a quarter of a billion dollars, according to calculations from Forbes. In that same time period, the franchise’s worth has jumped more than a billion dollars, to $1.25 billion. The Pirates recently traded franchise icon Andrew McCutchen and opening day starter Gerrit Cole.
 
The Pirates situation has a lot of blame to go around. a good amount of it lies with fans who support the nonsense...

If the city had balls, they would declare eminent domain on the franchise and try to argue that the massive monetary gains the past decade are directly tied to the publicly funded stadium the team got to compete, then bailed on that promise when they opted to penny pinch rather than make a real run for a championship in three seperate seasons before this rebuilding began... totally broke its promise to the city.... kick em out... those fans still going would probably watch a pickup game in that stadium and never be wiser... probably see better baseball for the next few years too
 
The Pirates situation has a lot of blame to go around. a good amount of it lies with fans who support the nonsense...

If the city had balls, they would declare eminent domain on the franchise and try to argue that the massive monetary gains the past decade are directly tied to the publicly funded stadium the team got to compete, then bailed on that promise when they opted to penny pinch rather than make a real run for a championship in three seperate seasons before this rebuilding began... totally broke its promise to the city.... kick em out... those fans still going would probably watch a pickup game in that stadium and never be wiser... probably see better baseball for the next few years too

The Washington Wild Things could move a few miles north.
 
The Pirates situation has a lot of blame to go around. a good amount of it lies with fans who support the nonsense...

No way. You cannot blame people who like to go watch baseball on an owner who doesn't want to spend and a GM who commits to mediocrity.
 
Hey, when the Bucs play the Giants this year it will be like an intersquad game. Giants sign Tony Watson to go with Melancon and Cutch.
 
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