Defensive Gameplan against the Bengals

[Drink IRON City]

A little off topic, but when Tomlin leaves, it will take a few years to get rid of the trash - our huge collection of Swiss Army Knives - and rebuild. I just wish that process were starting today.

Add in the advantage of the multiple draft picks (12). Also the QB search could be delayed a year or two with the emergence of Will Howard.

Big mistake is to have Tomlin pick the QB and not develope (because his sub-coaching & him can’t) him into a productive measure, thus setting the franchise back 3 more years.

Can a fan become to familiar / know to much / see the future to clearly to remain a loyal fan ?



Salute the nation

 

[Drink IRON City]

Whatever it is.....it has been going on for years and years. It is what it is until Tomlin leaves. And that could be a decade or more from now.

ADD in the time to UNDO the damage and try to return to the Steelers Way of doing things. that speed of return will be hinged upon the new coaching and his ability to take control back to the appropriate people / coaches / players.

Cam Haywerd has done a lot of damage during his “leadership” here. He has continually sent the wrong message and that takes awhile to reverse.

Players in general have been allowed to stray so far away that the chemistry is self-promotion instead of the team attitude needed, communication(s) show proof of that.



Salute the nation

 

[Steelr4evr]

Add in the advantage of the multiple draft picks (12). Also the QB search could be delayed a year or two with the emergence of Will Howard.

Big mistake is to have Tomlin pick the QB and not develope (because his sub-coaching & him can’t) him into a productive measure, thus setting the franchise back 3 more years.

Can a fan become to familiar / know to much / see the future to clearly to remain a loyal fan ?



Salute the nation

Well when you follow the team every single day,watch every game and get every little bit of information possible over decades,it paints a picture for us that others don't see.

I measure it against the elite standard they used to reach. It makes it very hard to get excited about the season at all. At some point I'm just going to turn it off completely.

 

[MT~Forged]

Personnel and style are on Tomlin. Game plan, calls and adjustments are on Austin. Execution is on the players.

Last night was about Austin's inability to make adjustments more than anything, IMHO.

That would be true if Austin was really the DC and developed the game plans and could make adjustments.

That D is and has been 100% the product of MT.

 

[Fiji Mariner]

Personnel and style are on Tomlin. Game plan, calls and adjustments are on Austin. Execution is on the players.

Last night was about Austin's inability to make adjustments more than anything, IMHO.

I think you vastly underestimated Tomlin’s role and have over estimated the scapegoat’s role.

Austin sucks, no argument…like historically sucks! His past proves that for sure.
Tomlin definitely has him on a pretty short leash. Austin is just another in a long line of scapegoats to take the fall when Tomlin’s schemes/plans fail.

The one constant through several coordinators is nothing changes…that’s a pretty good sign that Tomlin is micromanaging the show and always driving the car.

Make no mistake about it
This IS Tomlin’s D

PS: Tomlin’s record as a DC is pretty bad too, so it kinda sucks lacking any intelligence in the defensive scheme, gameplan, audibles, adjustments, etc.

 

[MT~Forged]

The best offensive players since Ben left are a 41 year old QB, an overpaid WR you got on trade, and an UDFA RB
The 1 good weapon they drafted in the past 5 years was traded away.
Steelernation has been conned by Kahn

You can believe what you want, but the GP trade had all the hallmarks of a Mike Tomlin decision. He didn’t want a “hostage”.
Make no mistake, at this point Kahn is a GM in name only, he works for Tomlin.

 

[MT~Forged]

At some point I'm just going to turn it off completely.

I will watch every game I can for free, but I haven’t dropped a dime paying to watch any of them.

 

[Steelr4evr]

I will watch every game I can for free, but I haven’t dropped a dime paying to watch any of them.

I haven't dropped a dime to watch them on tv in years. After Thursday night, I damn sure am not losing sleep again. They showed me all I needed to see. That absolutely nothing has changed.

 

[SteelerFan448]

I read somewhere that Chase said that the Steelers Defense did what they always do and exactly what the Bengals expected them to do. So how many players from opposing teams have said that or something similar? You think they’d change, but they never do. This Tampa 2 hybrid is all Tomlin knows. It’s all he’s ever going to allow. They had guys running open all night. Everywhere. Flacco had all day to throw. Their running game looked elite. Guess the Steelers defense just wasn’t communicating very well.

 

[SteelerSask2]

I think you needed to play match man and bring more then 4. Death by a thousand cuts and trying to strip the ball every play was stupid.

 

[Steelr4evr]

Yep. I remember watching that. He didn't tell us anything we didn't already know,some just choose to ignore it.

There's been a lot of talk like that over the years.

You should never wonder why the pats**** beat the **** out of the Steelers and knew everything on offense and defense.

Yes,those cheating ******* recorded all kinds of **** on the Steelers,but they NEVER changed a thing, even after knowing they'd been severely compromised. So it was easy for them.


I honestly think the NFL is half bullshit /half legit.

 

[diver]

They are paying Watt 41 million. Highlight is well compensated. Heyward. Ramsey. They should make plays regardless of scheme. Why the hell pay them then? Quit making excuses for these guys.

Thats not some defense of the coaching. Don't take it as such.