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Amen.
This may be the fairest overall take on the Pretti incident. Turley is wicked brilliant, but fair always.
George Washington University law professor Jonathan Turley noted that questions about the fatal shooting of a man by a Border Patrol agent Saturday were “legitimate” after initial accounts from the Department of Homeland Security were apparently contradicted by video.
A Border Patrol agent fatally shot 37-year-old Alex Pretti Saturday during a scuffle while a “targeted” enforcement operation was underway in Minneapolis, triggering riots. Turley said that it would be important to review the moments before an agent shouted a warning about the pistol Pretti was reportedly carrying.
“I do believe that there was an unforced error with regard to the administration and their initial accounts of the shooting,” Turley told “America Reports” co-hosts John Roberts and Sandra Smith. “Those accounts are not borne out by those videotapes. I mean, it does not appear that he was threatening the officer. It appears that this certainly escalated after that first contact. And that is not the impression you received from those early statements.”
Turley observed that Pretti had failed to follow orders from the agents, repeatedly going into the road.
“He was not obeying orders, that is also clear,” Turley said. “He came back into the road after being told to get out of the road, but what we really need to see is that short period before you hear an officer say gun. There’s an indication that one of the officers removed his gun and during that period, one of the other officers said gun and the shooting occurred shortly after that.”
Turley also noted that Democratic Gov. Tim Walz of Minnesota had painted himself into a corner by referring to United States Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) as “Gestapo.”
“Minnesota is right in one respect: They should be part of the investigation, and I don’t think the administration gives up much certainly by allowing them to be part of that,” Turley said. “This is obviously an incredibly traumatic moment for everyone involved.”
“Minnesota should be part of that process, but Minnesota for its part, has got to step forward and show greater responsibility,” Turley continued. “Governor Waltz just referred to the taking of individuals for removal under a federal law as analogous to capturing people for genocide. He actually said that the children of Minnesota are like Anne Frank. That’s the type of rhetoric that is still coming out of the governor’s office.”
According to neighbors, Pretti was in a local group that monitored ICE operations in the Minneapolis area, the Mirror reported. At least one similar group in Minnesota has been monitoring vehicles used by ICE, sharing their locations, and calling for others to confront the agents, which has often resulted in assaults and physical altercations, according to Fox News Digital.
The fatal shootings of Pretti and Renee Nicole Good took place during confrontations arising from “rapid-response” actions to ICE efforts to apprehend illegal aliens with criminal records.
Independent journalist Cam Higby shared a copy of the “rapid response” network manual on X. The document directs members in the network to claim that “armed men” were “getting ready to hurt or attack someone” or that a kidnapping is in progress when calling 911.
Jonathan Turley Flags ‘Legitimate Questions’ Surrounding Border Patrol Shooting Of Anti-ICE Demonstrator
George Washington University law professor Jonathan Turley noted that questions about the fatal shooting of a man by a Border Patrol agent Saturday were “legitimate” after initial accounts from the Department of Homeland Security were apparently contradicted by video.
A Border Patrol agent fatally shot 37-year-old Alex Pretti Saturday during a scuffle while a “targeted” enforcement operation was underway in Minneapolis, triggering riots. Turley said that it would be important to review the moments before an agent shouted a warning about the pistol Pretti was reportedly carrying.
“I do believe that there was an unforced error with regard to the administration and their initial accounts of the shooting,” Turley told “America Reports” co-hosts John Roberts and Sandra Smith. “Those accounts are not borne out by those videotapes. I mean, it does not appear that he was threatening the officer. It appears that this certainly escalated after that first contact. And that is not the impression you received from those early statements.”
Turley observed that Pretti had failed to follow orders from the agents, repeatedly going into the road.
“He was not obeying orders, that is also clear,” Turley said. “He came back into the road after being told to get out of the road, but what we really need to see is that short period before you hear an officer say gun. There’s an indication that one of the officers removed his gun and during that period, one of the other officers said gun and the shooting occurred shortly after that.”
Turley also noted that Democratic Gov. Tim Walz of Minnesota had painted himself into a corner by referring to United States Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) as “Gestapo.”
“Minnesota is right in one respect: They should be part of the investigation, and I don’t think the administration gives up much certainly by allowing them to be part of that,” Turley said. “This is obviously an incredibly traumatic moment for everyone involved.”
“Minnesota should be part of that process, but Minnesota for its part, has got to step forward and show greater responsibility,” Turley continued. “Governor Waltz just referred to the taking of individuals for removal under a federal law as analogous to capturing people for genocide. He actually said that the children of Minnesota are like Anne Frank. That’s the type of rhetoric that is still coming out of the governor’s office.”
According to neighbors, Pretti was in a local group that monitored ICE operations in the Minneapolis area, the Mirror reported. At least one similar group in Minnesota has been monitoring vehicles used by ICE, sharing their locations, and calling for others to confront the agents, which has often resulted in assaults and physical altercations, according to Fox News Digital.
The fatal shootings of Pretti and Renee Nicole Good took place during confrontations arising from “rapid-response” actions to ICE efforts to apprehend illegal aliens with criminal records.
Independent journalist Cam Higby shared a copy of the “rapid response” network manual on X. The document directs members in the network to claim that “armed men” were “getting ready to hurt or attack someone” or that a kidnapping is in progress when calling 911.
So I have posted about the SIGNAL chats going on in Minneapolis. It shows a highly coordinated, war-like effort going on in MN. As O'Keefe mentioned, this revelation (what he saw) scared him more than anything he has seen. He couldn't lose a tail (he's never ever been able to lose a tail). He indicated the spotters and the network on the ground was so extensive, it followed him into the suburbs. Lots of very coordinated levels of an organization, working together. Again, a war-like effort.
I've posted the links to the SIGNAL manuals being exposed including how to join them, how quickly they are found, ended, then recreated to continue the effort. These SIGNAL chats need coordination. Guess who is one of the Admins? The Governor's (Tim Walz) Lt. Gov.
It's pretty obvious Timmy's directly involved in all of this. This is State sponsored insurrection. But, but, but, but...J6!!
I've posted the links to the SIGNAL manuals being exposed including how to join them, how quickly they are found, ended, then recreated to continue the effort. These SIGNAL chats need coordination. Guess who is one of the Admins? The Governor's (Tim Walz) Lt. Gov.
It's pretty obvious Timmy's directly involved in all of this. This is State sponsored insurrection. But, but, but, but...J6!!
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Few things are more cringey and awkward than watching MAGA yahoos on this board twist into pretzels trying to force their narrative.
Sure, all is well on the immigration front. Things with ICE are going swimmingly. It's all leftist provocation, and propaganda, that is causing the backlash.
So Trump yanked Nazi-cosplaying clown Bovino off the job yesterday, and Kristi Noem is in trouble. Problem is, they can't get rid of Stephen Miller, as he is the de facto President, and if he's gone, there's nobody left to run the country.
Sure, all is well on the immigration front. Things with ICE are going swimmingly. It's all leftist provocation, and propaganda, that is causing the backlash.
So Trump yanked Nazi-cosplaying clown Bovino off the job yesterday, and Kristi Noem is in trouble. Problem is, they can't get rid of Stephen Miller, as he is the de facto President, and if he's gone, there's nobody left to run the country.
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No one said all is well. We simply disagree on the reasons all is not well.Few things are more cringey and awkward than watching MAGA yahoos on this board twist into pretzels trying to force their narrative.
Sure, all is well on the immigration front. Things with ICE are going swimmingly. It's all leftist provocation, and propaganda, that is causing the backlash.
So Trump yanked Nazi-cosplaying clown Bovino off the job yesterday, and Kristi Noem is in trouble. Problem is, they can't get rid of Stephen Miller, as he is the de facto President, and if he's gone, there's nobody left to run the country.
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Why were there no protests when Clinton and Obama deported millions Tibs? Why were Dem governors and mayors not begging people to interfere and resist?
Dem leaders and their complicit media are entirely responsible for putting our law enforcement officers and citizens in danger. Yeah public opinion is turning against them, that’s by design.
I will agree with you as I did with Trog (and Jonathan Turley) that the inaccurate messaging on this incident by Noem and Trump isn’t helping.
why do you believe that illegal immigrants defrauding the American taxpayer, and sexual predators and criminals from other countries should be allowed into this country?Few things are more cringey and awkward than watching MAGA yahoos on this board twist into pretzels trying to force their narrative.
Sure, all is well on the immigration front. Things with ICE are going swimmingly. It's all leftist provocation, and propaganda, that is causing the backlash.
So Trump yanked Nazi-cosplaying clown Bovino off the job yesterday, and Kristi Noem is in trouble. Problem is, they can't get rid of Stephen Miller, as he is the de facto President, and if he's gone, there's nobody left to run the country.
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The only logical (in my mind) conclusion that I can come up with is that these people are being paid to do this, how else do they survive, or they have all been brainwashed into believing it's somehow their calling in life. Either way, it boggles the mind.
CringeyFew things are more cringey and awkward than watching MAGA yahoos on this board twist into pretzels trying to force their narrative.
Sure, all is well on the immigration front. Things with ICE are going swimmingly. It's all leftist provocation, and propaganda, that is causing the backlash.
So Trump yanked Nazi-cosplaying clown Bovino off the job yesterday, and Kristi Noem is in trouble. Problem is, they can't get rid of Stephen Miller, as he is the de facto President, and if he's gone, there's nobody left to run the country.
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Awkward
MAGA yahoos
Nazi
Bravo!!
oh wait...
Tibs just unlocked a MAGA wet dream.
Stephen Miller as POTUS and Tom Homan as VPOTUS
Tibs just unlocked a MAGA wet dream.
Stephen Miller as POTUS and Tom Homan as VPOTUS
Oh please.Few things are more cringey and awkward than watching MAGA yahoos on this board twist into pretzels trying to force their narrative.
Sure, all is well on the immigration front. Things with ICE are going swimmingly. It's all leftist provocation, and propaganda, that is causing the backlash.
So Trump yanked Nazi-cosplaying clown Bovino off the job yesterday, and Kristi Noem is in trouble. Problem is, they can't get rid of Stephen Miller, as he is the de facto President, and if he's gone, there's nobody left to run the country.
There’s nothing being forced, only exposed.
To cry “forced narrative” as you demonstrate what a forced narrative actually looks like.
Oh the irony.
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how cringey and awkward of a post, you MAGA yahoo.
give Tibs back his flashbang grenade
You should give Tibs a break here, living in Budapest, where the streets are safe from illegal migrants, he has no idea what's going on other than reading internet feeds.
But here, we all look out our windows with a sigh of relief when the local police arrest a criminal that barricaded himself in the house across the street.
At the same time protests break out when attempting to arrest illegal criminal aliens.
I can't believe this country has sunken so low by allowing this to happen and all because of politics.
The chaos, the riots, the burning, the looting, the loss of lives, all politics, perpetrated by those safely out of harm's way.
Few things are more cringey and awkward than watching MAGA yahoos on this board twist into pretzels trying to force their narrative.
Sure, all is well on the immigration front. Things with ICE are going swimmingly. It's all leftist provocation, and propaganda, that is causing the backlash.
So Trump yanked Nazi-cosplaying clown Bovino off the job yesterday, and Kristi Noem is in trouble. Problem is, they can't get rid of Stephen Miller, as he is the de facto President, and if he's gone, there's nobody left to run the country.
Hey Tibs,
There is help available for you.
Check around. There may be facilities in Hungary that offer this treatment.
Read more about it here.
Oh, my God,
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My guess is he lives here in the US.
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They aren't even hiding it anymore. A man running for AG in the State of OH says he will kill Donald Trump by putting him on trial for murder and seeking the death penalty.
Lefties: Of course, why shouldn't we?
Lefties: Of course, why shouldn't we?
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It was being done legally and where it was needed and for immigration purposes. Do you really think there’s more of an immigration problem in Minnesota than there is in Texas or Florida?
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What evidence do you have that it's being done illegally, or only in Minnesota? Apparently there is a huge illegal immigrant fraud problem in Minnesota, so that may have caused some extra urgency. I live in Pennsylvania and there have been immigration operations near me. Texas and Florida aren't sanctuary states where state and local governments refuse to turn over criminal illegal aliens, eliminating much of the need for these types of raids.