Democrats play to win

[ExUSAF]

One thing I have to hand to the Democrats - they play to win and they stay united. They don't have their Mitt Romneys. They were going to take Trump out and it didn't matter how many ballots they had to print. They were going to win both Georgia Senate contests because they already had all the tools in place. The Republicans might as well disband for all the good they do when they are in the minority. Go along - get along. The only thing that put some steel in Mitch McConnell's spine was 4 years of Trump.

The next election I hope the Republican candidate, whoever it is, learns from this. You don't need to debate - in fact, I'd refuse to debate. It's a waste of time. You don't need to campaign, either. Just sit in your basement and let the political machinery do the heavy lifting.

 

[MT~Forged]

I actually hope that Trump devotes his time and financial resources to getting EVERY REPUBLICAN tossed out on their *****. I hope that someone emerges who people can vote FOR, and that Trump backs them all the way.

PRIMARY every last one of them, not because they disagreed with the President, but because they are spineless and corrupt, and DESERVE IT.

 

[Djfan]

Political parties come and go. Both the dems and the GOP are on the ropes. They have created a divided nation to gain power. Can't see where it's going, but can't see either party being for the people. At this point it's all about party triage and life support, which has little to do with what us citizens needs.

This next few years should be a bumpy ride.

Gonna pray for this president.

 

[Tibs]

Political parties come and go.

They do?

Republican Party founded: March 20, 1854, 167 years ago.
Democratic Party founded: January 8, 1828, 193 years ago.

 

[diver]

Huh, and for the Democrat Party 193 years of slavery and Jim Crow in various forms.

 

[Steeler Pride]

They do?

Republican Party founded: March 20, 1854, 167 years ago.
Democratic Party founded: January 8, 1828, 193 years ago.

He didn't say in the US. Also, try looking at some countries that have been around a little longer than 200+ years. The US is in its infancy compared to most of the world.

 

[Stewey]

Yep.
The Dems stick together no matter how evil the cause.

Republicans don't. Dems depend on those Reps who take the moral high ground condemning acts such as those taken place at the Capitol.. because it gives the illusion that Reps/Conservatives are the bad guys.
Dems are especially grateful for Rinos.

 

[FSF]

Just under a year ago, the Democrats were a disaster and had no chance of winning.

Covid saved their *** to give an excuse. They exploited it.

They are a fractured group that was United only by desire to defeat Trump.

It won’t take long before they implode


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[SteelChip]

Political parties come and go. Both the dems and the GOP are on the ropes. They have created a divided nation to gain power. Can't see where it's going, but can't see either party being for the people. At this point it's all about party triage and life support, which has little to do with what us citizens needs.

This next few years should be a bumpy ride.

Gonna pray for this president.

Lot of truth there DJ. My prayers will be directed at the US of A and it's future under the thumb of socialism.

As far as I'm concerned there isn't much difference in the Party's, just the people they pander to. I have never considered myself a Republican and never will. I am a Conservative.. period.
...and we are getting screwed, blued and tampered with by both Party's.

This is a repeat but it is becoming my flag...so to speak.

Maybe it is time to revitalize the JBS and for us true Conservatives to get back to our roots. We are being overrun by wackos, corrupt politicians and woke morons and we are doing nothing to counter their attack. Appeasement and pandering is the order of the day instead of common sense and the rule of law.

We have pure evil racists calling white policemen criminals and we accept it. We have black criminals being made into heroes solely based on the color of their skin and we accept it. We have woke liberals so brainwashed that they do not comprehend which side of earth is up, what part of science defines gender, what the rule of law actually means and what part of their life includes responsibility.

Yes I truly believe it is time to rally to the Conservative cause for the America rescue effort that needs to start yesterday. jus sayin'

 

[DBS1970]

Of course they do. That’s why they HATE President Trump so much, he showed the Republicans the way to FIGHT BACK. Now we are going to see an attempt to take revenge on conservatives that will most likely spark a civil war. Get ready for Balkanization guys.

BLOAT

 

[SteelChip]

Of course they do. That’s why they HATE President Trump so much, he showed the Republicans the way to FIGHT BACK. Now we are going to see an attempt to take revenge on conservatives that will most likely spark a civil war. Get ready for Balkanization guys.

BLOAT

Yep...true nuff but you gotta remember that some of yur your audience don't got your book lernin'.

Balkanization indeed.

here for the rest of yinz.....https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balkanization

 

[DBS1970]

Yep...true nuff but you gotta remember that some of yur your audience don't got your book lernin'.

Balkanization indeed.

here for the rest of yinz.....https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balkanization

Book Lernin,

Ha Ha Ha.

You have me confused with Steeltime. I ain’t got no fancy letters after my name like JD Esq.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

Of course they do. That’s why they HATE President Trump so much, he showed the Republicans the way to FIGHT BACK. Now we are going to see an attempt to take revenge on conservatives that will most likely spark a civil war. Get ready for Balkanization guys.

BLOAT

Been waiting all my life for a Republican President who hits back.

 

[SteelChip]

Been waiting all my life for a Republican President who hits back.

Kinda short lived though..huh Burgundy ? Didn't take long for the swamp to engulf that little fantasy.

 

[Djfan]

They do?

Republican Party founded: March 20, 1854, 167 years ago.
Democratic Party founded: January 8, 1828, 193 years ago.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_parties_in_the_United_States

 

[JMM]

How about that Whig Party?

 

[Stewey]

Lot of truth there DJ. My prayers will be directed at the US of A and it's future under the thumb of socialism.

All this needs is a liberal locking lips with the democrat.

 

[deljzc]

Maybe the MAIN reason Trump must go is that he is so divisive a figure that he makes it easy for the left to "unify" against him, even when internally, they are a mess with policy positions.

As long as Trump remains in the news and in the spotlight, the left will be somewhat unified against him. And that is a losing proposition long-term for conservative politicians.

Trump has always been about net total results. Yes, he might draw more votes on the right (opening up new demographics, etc.). But if he draws less votes on the right than he CREATES on the left due to his toxicity, he is obviously not a good candidate, no matter how popular he is.

I think much of the blindness on this board when it comes to Trump is their bubbles do not show them (or they underestimate) how many votes Trump generates on the left because they just don't like him. You guys concentrate WAY too much on only your side, only the votes he adds, only the groups you hang out with (where Trump is very popular). You see this popularity and think, "How could he lose?", when you ignore the group that voted for Biden almost 100% primarily because they hate Trump. And I'm telling all of you: if you leave your bubbles enough to notice, that group is very, very large.

 

[Stewey]

Maybe the MAIN reason Trump must go is that he is so divisive a figure that he makes it easy for the left to "unify" against him, even when internally, they are a mess with policy positions.

As long as Trump remains in the news and in the spotlight, the left will be somewhat unified against him. And that is a losing proposition long-term for conservative politicians.

Trump has always been about net total results. Yes, he might draw more votes on the right (opening up new demographics, etc.). But if he draws less votes on the right than he CREATES on the left due to his toxicity, he is obviously not a good candidate, no matter how popular he is.

I think much of the blindness on this board when it comes to Trump is their bubbles do not show them (or they underestimate) how many votes Trump generates on the left because they just don't like him. You guys concentrate WAY too much on only your side, only the votes he adds, only the groups you hang out with (where Trump is very popular). You see this popularity and think, "How could he lose?", when you ignore the group that voted for Biden almost 100% primarily because they hate Trump. And I'm telling all of you: if you leave your bubbles enough to notice, that group is very, very large.

This is absurd. We're also not supposed to like Trump because he's a meanie and has a bad personality?

You've just explained why we are 100% on board with Trump...its because the left hates him. Why? Because they hate him, that's why. That is irrational.

Give me a list of reasons pertaining to his policies and accomplishments that were detrimental to this nation to the extent that would evoke such hate.... and only then could your post have some validity.

While Trump was working hard getting **** done the last 4 years, all the demonrats were doing the last 4 years was being hard at work trying to figure out a way to get rid of him.

 

[JMM]

Maybe the MAIN reason Trump must go is that he is so divisive a figure that he makes it easy for the left to "unify" against him, even when internally, they are a mess with policy positions.

As long as Trump remains in the news and in the spotlight, the left will be somewhat unified against him. And that is a losing proposition long-term for conservative politicians.

Trump has always been about net total results. Yes, he might draw more votes on the right (opening up new demographics, etc.). But if he draws less votes on the right than he CREATES on the left due to his toxicity, he is obviously not a good candidate, no matter how popular he is.

I think much of the blindness on this board when it comes to Trump is their bubbles do not show them (or they underestimate) how many votes Trump generates on the left because they just don't like him. You guys concentrate WAY too much on only your side, only the votes he adds, only the groups you hang out with (where Trump is very popular). You see this popularity and think, "How could he lose?", when you ignore the group that voted for Biden almost 100% primarily because they hate Trump. And I'm telling all of you: if you leave your bubbles enough to notice, that group is very, very large.

I think the reason the left couldn't/can't stand him is they learned in short order that he couldn't be bought and was an outsider. He did not make decisions based on how it might affect his career long term in politics or how it could financially impact him or his family.

Everyone clamored for decades for a president who was not a career politician. They got one and he was essentially crucified. Yes he was a loud mouth, did not talk like a politician, and frankly talked a bunch of **** without thinking about it but I guess that is who he is and he didn't make any excuses for it. There are a lot of things I wish he would have let go like the whole McCain thing. That got old and it cost him but you could also see where the media knew it was a sore point and they kept needling him. He should have recognized when he was being egged on and when to let it go but again, that's not one of his characteristics.

That said, I can't stand loud mouth Yankees but I thought he was the perfect person to get stuff done in DC and try to pull the power away from the career politicians and put it back in the hands of the people. Didn't work out and I would not be surprised that at some point in the future many will wake up to see how the country is a radically different place to the one they grew up in and maybe they should have given that loud mouthed Yankee a chance.

 

[MT~Forged]

Been waiting all my life for a Republican President who hits back.

And he had to fight his own party too. What does that tell you?

 

[Confluence]

A small margin of victory in just a few states has decided POTUS the past two elections.
Since Reagan was able to attract "Reagan Democrats" in his landslide victories, no candidate, or President has been able attract from the center of the other party.

Trump won because, at the margin, a small group couldn't stand Hillary. Biden won because, at the margin a small group couldn't stand Trump. It isn't much more than that.

Hillary lost the election in 2016. Trump was the beneficiary. Her people freaked out for years.

Trump lost the 2020 election. Biden was the beneficiary. His people are freaking out, and will for some time.

Hillary Clinton was resoundingly criticized for not being likeable enough, even though she had two decades of exposure and was very well known to the people. Trump was in a similar situation, and simply could not find enough people to overcome the lamest Dem candidate since Dukakis.

Yes, i understand the voting issues in PA, WI, MI, AZ and GA. The next real leader of the Democrat party (it won't be Sleepy Joe) will be the person that drives an open process investigating voting issues that convinces a few Republicans that he/she can fairly represent that big middle voter block, like no one has since Reagan.


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[MT~Forged]

I truly wished that Trump would have stayed off of socialism media.

What he should have done was bring back the fireside chats. Every Monday evening post a video of no more than 30 minutes. In the first half lay out what he hopes to accomplish in the next week and what his reasoning is for doing it. The second half explain what wasn’t able to be accomplished and name those responsible for the failures. Be SPECIFIC and let the people know who is the problem.

The second thing he should have done was surrounded himself with OUTSIDERS in EVERY position. Outsiders that supported his vision, and would help to implement the needed changes.

The third thing, he needed to start developing another party that drew people that shared his philosophy. Targeted politicians to be primaried in 18, with a vengeance. Maybe 4-5 of them could have been ousted and replaced. Do the same for 20, 22 & 24. If he had stayed off Socialism media, and done the fireside chats, he would have been re-elected in a landslide. He could also have picked his successor in 24. At that point they could easily have switched out 15-20% of the swamp creatures, and had another candidate to carry out the same plan for another 8 years.

 

[ZonaBurgh]

I truly wished that Trump would have stayed off of socialism media.

What he should have done was bring back the fireside chats. Every Monday evening post a video of no more than 30 minutes..

I think everyone would agree with the first sentence, as for the second, it would be a good idea, but someone would have to broadcast it and doubt anyone would.

 

[JMM]

I truly wished that Trump would have stayed off of socialism media.

What he should have done was bring back the fireside chats. Every Monday evening post a video of no more than 30 minutes. In the first half lay out what he hopes to accomplish in the next week and what his reasoning is for doing it. The second half explain what wasn’t able to be accomplished and name those responsible for the failures. Be SPECIFIC and let the people know who is the problem.

The second thing he should have done was surrounded himself with OUTSIDERS in EVERY position. Outsiders that supported his vision, and would help to implement the needed changes.

The third thing, he needed to start developing another party that drew people that shared his philosophy. Targeted politicians to be primaried in 18, with a vengeance. Maybe 4-5 of them could have been ousted and replaced. Do the same for 20, 22 & 24. If he had stayed off Socialism media, and done the fireside chats, he would have been re-elected in a landslide. He could also have picked his successor in 24. At that point they could easily have switched out 15-20% of the swamp creatures, and had another candidate to carry out the same plan for another 8 years.

Socialism Media...I like that.

I agree about laying off the Tweets. Maybe occasionally but he was an addict for sure. He did explain that he tweeted so that he could get his side of the story out because he felt that he was not being given fair coverage with the media. Very interesting too that he did not simply leave it up to his press secretary to get the word out. He wanted that personal message. I think that in itself demonstrated how adamant he was about what he was trying to do. Most execs wouldn't have the time for that. Hell most don't have the time to do anything other than go golf or sit at the bar and schmooze.

I wish he had more TV broadcasts when something critical happened. The one which stands out was when he laid out the plan to restrict travel and essentially close everything down. That was a big speech and I thought he knocked it out of the park when the country was looking for leadership. I wish he had gone public in that manner after George Floyd and when all the mayhem was going down. He would have had to keep away from the personal attacks on the governors, mayors, etc. by name. Just say leadership.

I'd like to see him go on TV leading up to the inauguration and call for a peaceful transition. If he has to talk about the election maybe he can just state that this election will at the least bring about formative change to finally solidify and standardize the election processes across the nation. I think even the staunchest opponent to Trump, outside of the Beltway, could get behind that.

Totally agree that he should have surrounded himself with non DC career politicians. The Middle East peace processes came about with the work of a famiiy member, right? Guess he just did not have a big enough family. I think it would have been a much different story if Rudy was AG from the start rather than Sessions... That guy was a Swamp Creature from way back but I don't think he knew any better. Bottom line is, if the Dems don't scream bloody murder, you might want to second guess your pick.