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Interesting - and scary.
But if McKinley runs a 4.58 at the combine, and does 23 reps, then he has skills that Jones never had.
you don't think Williams arrest will possibly drop him down some?
Ask 5: Which position in 2017 NFL Draft is the deepest?

Daniel Jeremiah
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Daniel Jeremiah: 2017 draft class is 'loaded' with defensive talent
After a remarkable*Super Bowl, all 32 teams can now put their focus on the offseason. The NFL*Scouting Combine*is only a few weeks away (March 3-6 on*NFL Network) and I can't wait to see all of the talent on display in Indianapolis. Some draft classes have elite players at the top, while other classes offer tremendous depth and value in the middle rounds. The 2017*NFL Draft*will offer both quality and quantity at several positions. I reached out to five NFL personnel executives and asked them which position they thought was the deepest in the upcoming draft. Here are their answers.

2017 NFL DRAFT
Executive 1:*Tight end
"This is the best group of tight ends I've seen in a long time. There are 7 guys at the position that are going to come in and be major contributors in Year One. I think the safety group is a close second. You are going to see some really good players still on the board in the fourth and fifth rounds."
Executive 2:*Safety
"Overall, this is the best group of DBs we've had in several years. Specifically, I love the safety depth. I keep watching one good player after another. The UConn kid (Obi Melifonwu) was a revelation at the*Senior Bowl. The safety at Utah (Marcus Williams) is a great player and he isn't even one of the five best safeties in the draft."
Executive 3:*Cornerback
"This draft is loaded with corners. There are some elite guys at the top of the draft, but I think there are some excellent value guys in the middle rounds and a bunch of sleepers I really like on Day 3 (Rounds 4-7)."
Executive 4:*Cornerback
"I think it's a very deep draft at several positions, but cornerback is the deepest, followed closely by the running back group. I think we could see a major run on cornerbacks in the first three rounds. I think we could see 20 of them go off the board in the top 100 picks."
Executive 5:*Cornerback
"I love the corners in this draft. I think every team has them in a different order and I'm fascinated to see how they come off the board."
Summary:*That's three votes for cornerback and one apiece for safety and tight end.
Conclusion:*I think you can make a case for several positions being the deepest in the upcoming draft, but I believe cornerback belongs at the top of the list. I currently have 10 cornerbacks in*my top 50 players*and I felt guilty for leaving a handful of other cornerbacks off my list. The running back and tight end groups are also loaded with quality depth. Although I'm not in love with the top-tier talent at the position, I believe there is some depth in the quarterback class as well.
Just going to place this here Del hope you don't mind.
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Daniel Jeremiah
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Daniel Jeremiah: 2017 draft class is 'loaded' with defensive talent
After a remarkable*Super Bowl, all 32 teams can now put their focus on the offseason. The NFL*Scouting Combine*is only a few weeks away (March 3-6 on*NFL Network) and I can't wait to see all of the talent on display in Indianapolis. Some draft classes have elite players at the top, while other classes offer tremendous depth and value in the middle rounds. The 2017*NFL Draft*will offer both quality and quantity at several positions. I reached out to five NFL personnel executives and asked them which position they thought was the deepest in the upcoming draft. Here are their answers.

2017 NFL DRAFT
Executive 1:*Tight end
"This is the best group of tight ends I've seen in a long time. There are 7 guys at the position that are going to come in and be major contributors in Year One. I think the safety group is a close second. You are going to see some really good players still on the board in the fourth and fifth rounds."
Executive 2:*Safety
"Overall, this is the best group of DBs we've had in several years. Specifically, I love the safety depth. I keep watching one good player after another. The UConn kid (Obi Melifonwu) was a revelation at the*Senior Bowl. The safety at Utah (Marcus Williams) is a great player and he isn't even one of the five best safeties in the draft."
Executive 3:*Cornerback
"This draft is loaded with corners. There are some elite guys at the top of the draft, but I think there are some excellent value guys in the middle rounds and a bunch of sleepers I really like on Day 3 (Rounds 4-7)."
Executive 4:*Cornerback
"I think it's a very deep draft at several positions, but cornerback is the deepest, followed closely by the running back group. I think we could see a major run on cornerbacks in the first three rounds. I think we could see 20 of them go off the board in the top 100 picks."
Executive 5:*Cornerback
"I love the corners in this draft. I think every team has them in a different order and I'm fascinated to see how they come off the board."
Summary:*That's three votes for cornerback and one apiece for safety and tight end.
Conclusion:*I think you can make a case for several positions being the deepest in the upcoming draft, but I believe cornerback belongs at the top of the list. I currently have 10 cornerbacks in*my top 50 players*and I felt guilty for leaving a handful of other cornerbacks off my list. The running back and tight end groups are also loaded with quality depth. Although I'm not in love with the top-tier talent at the position, I believe there is some depth in the quarterback class as well.
Just going to place this here Del hope you don't mind.
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Not sure if this is the only time he has been in trouble. Question is, if does drop to us, do we need another potential distraction on this team?
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...rrested-handgun-no-permit-marijuana/91268026/
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/...illiams-clouded-after-arrest-for-gun-charges/
Good news since the Steelers need a CB, TE, and RB.
And an elite pass rusher.
Pass rusher at 30, and can still get a quality CB or S at 62, and a top-flight S or CB (whichever is left) at 94.
Yes, yes, I know, going D in the first 3 rounds 2 years in a row is risky, and the offense needs a TE, RB and possibly a WR ... but quality is available round 4 and later for those positions. I hope. Because I go D 1-2-3 again.
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I agree with most of that so far from what I've watched on tape. The cornerbacks were endless. Every time I'd pop another tape in on someone I'd say "another good one". It gets to the point you want to stop giving round 2-3 grades on people because you think you are doing something wrong. I mean you compare some of the CB's I'm putting 4th round grades on (let's say 10th on the list or something) and they are VASTLY better than guys I probably had 4th round grades on last year. Better height, tougher, longer, probably faster, solid man-2-man skills. Stuff like that.
All that won't come together for me until the very last part of the process. After the combine and we can start creating the final "Big Board". But for people 2-3 months ahead of me, I don't doubt they can say stuff like the TE's are really good, the DB's are very deep, edge rushers are good, etc.
I see it.
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He came through to me on a randomized list of Outside Linebackers and when I saw he only weighed 230 lbs, I think I assumed he was a runner/hitter OLB or WILL prospect.
I planned on scouting him when I do all my linebackers. Sometimes I will catch someone on film during linebackers that plays more like an edge player and move them to that list. Just like sometimes I will scout someone I thought was an edge player and might move to my defensive lineman group (i.e. almost never plays outside the tackle and is more of a 3-4 DE).
I just scouted some offensive guards this morning and David Sharp got labeled a guard prospect but he's going to move back to my tackle list as I see him as a RT only guy.
Sometimes guys slip through the cracks as well.
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If he does this, I will look at another couple of games. I admit after watching another film, I might have been too tough on McKinley. I think I have a subconscious bias against UCLA players. I don't think Jim Mora is a good coach and I don't think he's prepared very good NFL players (unless like you said, they have exceptional athletic talent).
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PRE COMBINE TIGHT END NOTES
O.J. Howard, Alabama (6’6”, 250#)
Well built with great height and length for position. Excellent athlete for size with more wiggle than you’d expect. Very capable pass blocker who uses his reach very well and will excel if asked to “stay in and block” at the next level. A bit tall/lanky to be a power in-line guy at this point but effort is there and he is exceptional down field blocker on runs/screens. More of a size mismatch in pass game than speed/change of direction but exhibits decent hands and knack for getting into space. Curious about timed speed because if he runs like a 4.6 no way he gets out of round 1. Round 1
NFL Comparison: Jason Witten
David Njoku*, Miami (6’4”, 245#)
Superior athlete. Will likely blow up combine with speed/weight/jump ability. Very raw blocker and has chip on his shoulder and might not be willing to do dirty work. More interested in being a WR and having the spotlight. Does not anchor well in any blocking play and is often pushed around. Best as H-back/slot or in stacked formations. With a clean release, he is a terror to cover by any LB and teams will scheme to create mismatches for him. Round 1
NFL Comparison: Vernon Davis
Jeremy Sprinkle, Arkansas (6’6”, 255#)
Legit in-line TE that played in tight formations and unbalance lines for Arkansas. Good blocker with nice length and bubble. Straight line athlete that ramps up to top speed. Not often a turn-and-sit route runner. More clear outs, seem and diagonal routes downfield. Not a great, soft hand catcher but gets the job done. There’s a lot to like as a #2 TE and offers a lot of versatility for run first offenses. Is not the “new school” type guy that lines up as a big slot receiver but most teams want guys like this on their roster. Round 2-3
NFL Comparison: Austin Sefarian-Jenkins
Jordan Leggett, Clemson (6’5”, 255#)
Long legged athlete that can really ramp up speed and threaten on seem routes. Willing blocker and does his part but is not elite and doesn’t have physicality/nastiness in the run game. Good hand catcher and makes catches even with defenders in his area. Reminds me a lot of Jace Amaro/Eric Ebron (everything looks easy for them in high-powered college offenses but lacks interest in contact which will hurt at the next level). Round 2-3
NFL Comparison: Jace Amaro
Bucky Hodges*, Virginia Tech (6’7”, 245#)
Played wide receiver for VT and sometimes just manhandled outside the numbers man-2-man coverage. Very physical receiver that pushes off and isn’t afraid of contact and goes up and gets ball. Very similar scouting analysis to Mike Evans with limited route tree with a very specific roll in offense but will not be the speed athlete Evans is/was. Abused Pittsburgh on film and was a force. Non-existent blocking inside the numbers and needs a lot of work. Is not a tight end. A poor man’s Dorial Green-Beckham, Mike Evans or Devin Funchess but isn’t near the athlete those guys are. Very tough scout to predict how he fits at the next level. Might have to move him to WR group. Round 3-4
Gerald Everett, South Alabama (6’4”, 240#)
Very good athlete with legit change of direction skills and body control for his size. Will be hard for NFL linebackers to stick with him. Should run very well at combine (4.6?). Willing blocker and plays with nastiness/toughness although technique is sloppy and can lose leverage easily (NFL coaching should clean this up). Slightly undersized for inline work and will be more of an H-back, slot TE or move guy but the athlete here is very tempting. Poor man’s David Njoku in this draft. Round 4
NFL Comparison: Jordan Reed
Jake Butt, Michigan (6’6”, 243#)
Nice size/build of a traditional in-line TE and has experience playing in good system at Michigan. Lacks a step in speed that will hold him back but does all the little things you want. Average catcher and would like to see more hand action. Not a superior athlete. Has room to gain a little weight. Round 4
NFL Comparison: Anthony Fassano
Cole Hikutini, Louisville (6’5”, 248#)
Pretty smooth athlete that doesn’t look that big on film. Plays more of a move-TE, H-back that lines up in slot on pass downs. Similar to someone like Zach Ertz/Brett Celek and won’t be a force as he gets closer to the line. Is best in spread/motion type offense that likes to mix up targets. Sill better than many TE’s I’ve scouted in past years and very curious to see how he runs at combine and what his true size is. Could be decent depth selection later in draft. Round 4-5
Evan Engram, Mississippi (6’3”, 227#)
More of a blocking WR-type than tight end. Plays the game very similar to how Hines Ward played receiver. Lots of motion and slot receiver stuff. Crack down blocks or motion H-back blocks. Eye-of-the-beholder player and will have to find a coach willing to find a roll for him. NFL athlete is there but it’s tough to judge off film. Combine will matter because he has to match up with the receivers rather than the tight ends. Round 4-5 (WR)
NFL Comparison: Hines Ward
Michael Roberts, Toledo (6’5”, 270#)
Really big with huge frame, long arms and bubble. Almost a potential tackle prospect. Decent athlete but lacks a bit of lateral movement skills for open field blocking. Effort is there but mental game is a bit sloppy. Skating by on athletic talent right now and is a raw, developmental prospect. Shows okay hands for his size and can run. A matchup problem just based on size. For a late round project blocking TE/LT guy he’s better than most I see. Round 5-6
George Kittle, Iowa (6’4”, #235)
He’s a lot like what Blake Jarvin should be. Just a lot better technically/mentally and more smooth an athlete. Very good space blocker and really does a good job. Unfortunately is very undersized for position and not sure he has much room to grow/get bigger. You rout for him to succeed and might be worth a flyer but is limited because of size. Round 6
Blake Jarwin, Oklahoma State (6’5”, 245#)
Lacks NFL athleticism and is a jack-of-all-trades type. Nothing more than a #2/backup and will have to show a bit more than what I saw on film to earn/keep a roster spot. Effort and try-hard kid that will have to out think people at the next level. Decent size and will not be outmatched on that aspect of position. Round 6-7
Adam Shaheen*, Ashland (6’6”, 277#)
No film. Leaving early from small school? Could be super athlete?
O.J. Howard, Alabama (6’6”, 250#)
Well built with great height and length for position. Excellent athlete for size with more wiggle than you’d expect. Very capable pass blocker who uses his reach very well and will excel if asked to “stay in and block” at the next level. A bit tall/lanky to be a power in-line guy at this point but effort is there and he is exceptional down field blocker on runs/screens. More of a size mismatch in pass game than speed/change of direction but exhibits decent hands and knack for getting into space. Curious about timed speed because if he runs like a 4.6 no way he gets out of round 1. Round 1
NFL Comparison: Jason Witten
David Njoku*, Miami (6’4”, 245#)
Superior athlete. Will likely blow up combine with speed/weight/jump ability. Very raw blocker and has chip on his shoulder and might not be willing to do dirty work. More interested in being a WR and having the spotlight. Does not anchor well in any blocking play and is often pushed around. Best as H-back/slot or in stacked formations. With a clean release, he is a terror to cover by any LB and teams will scheme to create mismatches for him. Round 1
NFL Comparison: Vernon Davis
Jeremy Sprinkle, Arkansas (6’6”, 255#)
Legit in-line TE that played in tight formations and unbalance lines for Arkansas. Good blocker with nice length and bubble. Straight line athlete that ramps up to top speed. Not often a turn-and-sit route runner. More clear outs, seem and diagonal routes downfield. Not a great, soft hand catcher but gets the job done. There’s a lot to like as a #2 TE and offers a lot of versatility for run first offenses. Is not the “new school” type guy that lines up as a big slot receiver but most teams want guys like this on their roster. Round 2-3
NFL Comparison: Austin Sefarian-Jenkins
Jordan Leggett, Clemson (6’5”, 255#)
Long legged athlete that can really ramp up speed and threaten on seem routes. Willing blocker and does his part but is not elite and doesn’t have physicality/nastiness in the run game. Good hand catcher and makes catches even with defenders in his area. Reminds me a lot of Jace Amaro/Eric Ebron (everything looks easy for them in high-powered college offenses but lacks interest in contact which will hurt at the next level). Round 2-3
NFL Comparison: Jace Amaro
Bucky Hodges*, Virginia Tech (6’7”, 245#)
Played wide receiver for VT and sometimes just manhandled outside the numbers man-2-man coverage. Very physical receiver that pushes off and isn’t afraid of contact and goes up and gets ball. Very similar scouting analysis to Mike Evans with limited route tree with a very specific roll in offense but will not be the speed athlete Evans is/was. Abused Pittsburgh on film and was a force. Non-existent blocking inside the numbers and needs a lot of work. Is not a tight end. A poor man’s Dorial Green-Beckham, Mike Evans or Devin Funchess but isn’t near the athlete those guys are. Very tough scout to predict how he fits at the next level. Might have to move him to WR group. Round 3-4
Gerald Everett, South Alabama (6’4”, 240#)
Very good athlete with legit change of direction skills and body control for his size. Will be hard for NFL linebackers to stick with him. Should run very well at combine (4.6?). Willing blocker and plays with nastiness/toughness although technique is sloppy and can lose leverage easily (NFL coaching should clean this up). Slightly undersized for inline work and will be more of an H-back, slot TE or move guy but the athlete here is very tempting. Poor man’s David Njoku in this draft. Round 4
NFL Comparison: Jordan Reed
Jake Butt, Michigan (6’6”, 243#)
Nice size/build of a traditional in-line TE and has experience playing in good system at Michigan. Lacks a step in speed that will hold him back but does all the little things you want. Average catcher and would like to see more hand action. Not a superior athlete. Has room to gain a little weight. Round 4
NFL Comparison: Anthony Fassano
Cole Hikutini, Louisville (6’5”, 248#)
Pretty smooth athlete that doesn’t look that big on film. Plays more of a move-TE, H-back that lines up in slot on pass downs. Similar to someone like Zach Ertz/Brett Celek and won’t be a force as he gets closer to the line. Is best in spread/motion type offense that likes to mix up targets. Sill better than many TE’s I’ve scouted in past years and very curious to see how he runs at combine and what his true size is. Could be decent depth selection later in draft. Round 4-5
Evan Engram, Mississippi (6’3”, 227#)
More of a blocking WR-type than tight end. Plays the game very similar to how Hines Ward played receiver. Lots of motion and slot receiver stuff. Crack down blocks or motion H-back blocks. Eye-of-the-beholder player and will have to find a coach willing to find a roll for him. NFL athlete is there but it’s tough to judge off film. Combine will matter because he has to match up with the receivers rather than the tight ends. Round 4-5 (WR)
NFL Comparison: Hines Ward
Michael Roberts, Toledo (6’5”, 270#)
Really big with huge frame, long arms and bubble. Almost a potential tackle prospect. Decent athlete but lacks a bit of lateral movement skills for open field blocking. Effort is there but mental game is a bit sloppy. Skating by on athletic talent right now and is a raw, developmental prospect. Shows okay hands for his size and can run. A matchup problem just based on size. For a late round project blocking TE/LT guy he’s better than most I see. Round 5-6
George Kittle, Iowa (6’4”, #235)
He’s a lot like what Blake Jarvin should be. Just a lot better technically/mentally and more smooth an athlete. Very good space blocker and really does a good job. Unfortunately is very undersized for position and not sure he has much room to grow/get bigger. You rout for him to succeed and might be worth a flyer but is limited because of size. Round 6
Blake Jarwin, Oklahoma State (6’5”, 245#)
Lacks NFL athleticism and is a jack-of-all-trades type. Nothing more than a #2/backup and will have to show a bit more than what I saw on film to earn/keep a roster spot. Effort and try-hard kid that will have to out think people at the next level. Decent size and will not be outmatched on that aspect of position. Round 6-7
Adam Shaheen*, Ashland (6’6”, 277#)
No film. Leaving early from small school? Could be super athlete?
Thinking the Steelers won't go TE one, unless one of the top two is there and a clear value.
Which makes me zero in on Hodges..... some interesting match up problems that he could create IMO
Which makes me zero in on Hodges..... some interesting match up problems that he could create IMO
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Del, great previews so far!
Looking at the edge defenders, would love the Steelers to get top prospect in the first and again late in the draft with a guy like Price. A first rounder would clearly be groomed into the starting role, but you could use a player such as a Price as a pass rushing specialist. You just can't enough players who can get to the quarterback.
Looking at the edge defenders, would love the Steelers to get top prospect in the first and again late in the draft with a guy like Price. A first rounder would clearly be groomed into the starting role, but you could use a player such as a Price as a pass rushing specialist. You just can't enough players who can get to the quarterback.
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This is my first year trying to do this stuff in a bubble. I'm sure I'm wrong on a lot of guys.
I only have four positions left (LB, DT, WR & QB). As soon as I'm done I can start comparing and seeing how bad I did vs. some of the "lists" and "experts" out there. You guys have clued me in on a few I probably am way off on (McKinley) but it was meant to be an experiment at first and then the big board will start to come together as I discuss it with everyone and start reading up on the prospects.
Like I didn't/don't know that Tim Williams has an arrest record or anything like that.
I only have four positions left (LB, DT, WR & QB). As soon as I'm done I can start comparing and seeing how bad I did vs. some of the "lists" and "experts" out there. You guys have clued me in on a few I probably am way off on (McKinley) but it was meant to be an experiment at first and then the big board will start to come together as I discuss it with everyone and start reading up on the prospects.
Like I didn't/don't know that Tim Williams has an arrest record or anything like that.
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PRE COMBINE CORNERBACK NOTES
Marlon Humphrey*, Alabama (6’1”, 198#)
One of the better, pure man-2-man guys I’ve scouted in a while. Can really stick with players downfield and is never out of a play. Good play awareness and times his contact well. Willing run defender. Really had a good test vs. Williams of Clemson. Timed speed will likely dictate spot in round 1 but he is a very solid cornerback prospect.
NFL Comparison: Marcus Peters
Tre’Davious White, LSU (5’11”, 190#)
Looks the part and plays rough, physical man-2-man coverage when asked. Uses hand at line of scrimmage and one of the few prospects I’ve scouted that jams and plays hand combat early in routes. Good size/length on film. Good footwork and hips. Physicality could draw penalties at next level but seems to have the ability to adjust and learn. Returned punts in college. Round 1
NFL Comparison: Vontae Davis
Marshon Lattimore*, Ohio State (6’0”, 190#)
Given the famed #2 at OSU and is coming out as a RS Sophomore. Really athletic, highly recruited prospect. Great height/length for position and will likely run very fast. Potential to get better. Lots of M2M stuff (along with Conley) and almost all the plays against OSU were in the middle of the field away from these guys. Better prospect to me than someone like Eli Apple from last year (who went #10 overall). Round 1
NFL Comparison: Jonathan Joseph
Teez Tabor*, Florida (6’0”, 199#)
There’s a lot to like on tape and not a lot of weaknesses. Timed speed will matter but really trusts his ability to mirror and stick with people. Not afraid to break off route and make plays. Good athlete but didn’t quite jump off film as great athlete. Fundamentals are very solid. Should be an immediate contributor to secondary. Round 1-2
NFL Comparison: Darrell Revis
Desmond King*, Iowa (5’-11”, 203#)
Well put together athlete that is thick in the lower half and strong. Returned kicks and punts for Iowa and likely their best athlete. Could potentially be a better safety prospect and can play a variety of secondary positions. Decent CB with smooth hip transition and speed to stick with people. Very curious how he tests at combine and could be exceptional athlete in which a case for 1st round grade might be warranted. Reminds me of a poor man’s Jalen Ramsey from last year. Round 2
NFL Comparison: Jalen Ramsey
Adoree’ Jackson, USC (5’11”, 185#)
A bit undersized but looks to have speed to burn and can really stick with downfield routes. Never run away from. Trusts his coverage to his legs and isn’t a press/bump/physical player at this point. Length looks good on film. As good a tackler as you can expect at his size/weight. Fundamentally sound athlete and smooth. Round 2
NFL Comparison:
Gareon Conley*, Ohio State (6’0”, 195#)
Pretty solid cornerback prospect with good height, length and athleticism for position. Moves well and is a fluid athlete. Played almost all man-2-man for OSU and was better the closer to the boundary he was. Mostly did a good job of sticking with receivers and being in the play. Not a lot of yards after catch against. A few hiccups in run support and needs to do better wrapping up. Round 2
Cameron Sutton, Tennessee (5’11”, 186#)
Smaller, feisty, aggressive cornerback prospect in the mold of Peanut Tillman and Pacman Jones. Very quick click-and-close ability. Is susceptible to double moves and pump fakes due to aggressiveness. Returns punts. Good SEC athlete. Another decent corner that has a good path to success and contribution at the next level. Safe pick. Round 2
NFL Comparison: Adam Jones
Marquez White, Florida State (6’1”, 185#)
Reminds me a lot of fellow FSU prospect P.J. Williams a few years ago (and maybe some Artie Burns). Will be a good athlete but not sure he’s super fast. Can get clutch/grabby on routes and will have to adjust to pass interference in the NFL. Very good size/length and lots of success will have to do with correct matchups. Did not have great tape vs. Houston in bowl game but is still a solid athlete/size prospect that can play. Round 3
NFL Comparison: P.J. Williams
Quincy Wilson*, Florida (6’1”, 213#)
Great size/length for position but quicker, smaller receivers are going to give him a really hard time. Cannot stop/start and has to play a physical game at the line of scrimmage. Anything with a quick break creates separation from him. But he’s a very good athlete and great size that is a perfect matchup vs. bigger receivers or slot tight ends. Might be able to convert to safety. Round 3
NFL Comparison: Malcolm Jenkins
Damontae Kazee, San Diego State (5’11”, 185#)
Very tough player and really loves to come downhill to support run. Hits with authority. Played RCB in lots of man setups. Speed & COD will matter, but looks like a very good slot corner because of toughness and willingness to get into the mix in run support. Can make plays on ball. Not sure I see an elite deep coverage guy and won’t stick with anyone for 3 seconds, but there’s a lot to like. Round 3-4
NFL Comparison: Orlando Scandrick
Cordrea Tankersley, Clemson (6’1”, 195#)
Another very tall and long CB prospect. Might question his top speed and struggles to keep up on fly routes. Is a very good zone defender with great wingspan and tackling ability. Not afraid to play physical. Best when plays are in front of him. Potential as a FS maybe? Good ball awareness and hands. Needs the right scheme and right expectations but can play football. Round 3-4
NFL Comparison: T. J. Green
Sidney Jones*, Washington (6’0”, 180#)
M2M, left cornerback in Washington’s aggressive scheme with lots of cushion/bail technique. Saw a few jams and blitzes in repertoire but nothing really stood out. As a man coverage guy he’s okay. Good height/length and speed will matter (didn’t see super speed on tape). Below average in run support and would have liked to see more urgency/toughness to get involved. Treats his job like he does only one thing (cover his guy) and that’s it. Round 4
NFL Comparison: Jeremy Lane
Channing Stribling, Michigan (6’2”, 175#)
Another very tall, long, skinny prospect in the mold of King and Witherspoon. Tape was decent vs. Ohio State and did some man-under and zone concepts in addition to straight deep man stuff. Follows deep ball well and is a very good coverage guy on downfield stuff due to speed/length. Underneath and quicker COD routes can give him a bit of trouble as he’s all arms/legs and can’t quite keep up with speedy, smaller guys. Willing tackler but can easily be wiped out by big, physical receivers that might have 20-30lbs on him. Round 4
Corn Elder, Miami (5’10”, 183#)
He’s a Steelers type of CB. Plays a lot of off-man coverage and is a willing and good tackler despite size limitations. Decent athlete and can run. Active player involved in a lot of the action. Effort is very good on special teams coverage and makes plays. Will never be the type to cover a #1 WR by himself but can contribute in a group secondary mentality. Round 4-5
NFL Comparison: William Gay
Kevin King, Washington (6’3”, 190#)
Super tall and long for position with huge wingspan. Is not the shiftiest of athletes and can clutch/grab against quick cuts and change of directions. Decent run support but is more a wrap-and-fall type of tackler and not very physical or punishing. Gives up plays and not the most productive. 2015 tape as slot/zone defender was not very good. Eye of beholder player (like teammate Jones) and combine will matter to both players. Round 4-5
Jourdan Lewis, Michigan (5’10”, 175#)
Very undersized and plays aggressive in-your-pocket coverage all over field in talented Michigan secondary. When bigger receivers try to play stop/start games with him, he’s right there, but too many times on film I see guys run away from him on longer, crossing or downfield routes (top speed?). For size, still shows toughness and willing tackler. Can return kicks. Will start career as a slot/matchup defender and kickoff guy that needs right system. Round 5
Ahkello Witherspoon, Colorado (6’3”, 190#)
Very tall and long. Looks very good off snap with low back peddle and nice hip turn. Might lack top-speed or 2nd gear because I see receivers get separation when ball is in air. Does not have good ball awareness or play sense. Kind of locked into his own world of M2M coverage. Needs improvement on run support and toughness. Another tall CB in the mold of Kevin King that will have to run fast and show COD skills. Round 5
Chidobe Awuzie, Colorado (6’0”, 203#)
Looks more like a projected safety type and lacks required speed/COD to be NFL cornerback. Good athlete and coverage player on special teams and should offer competition to those groups early while he finds a spot on defense. A zone defender on the outside that tackles decent (not great) and can offer some edge blitzes or slot defending. Has trouble whenever he follows a receiver for long across or down field. Round 6
Jalen Myrick, Minnesota (5’10”, 205#)
Not a sum of his parts. Will likely run very fast and has track build with huge thighs. Returns kicks and is a straight line athlete. Hips are stiff and can look awkward in space. Limited game awareness (just starting game or position switch?). Does not pick up ball well in air and is not a playmaker. Round 6-7
Fabian Moreau, UCLA (6’0”, 200#)
Very nice size for position but top end speed and athletic limitations could be a move to safety or bust. Kind of lacks the wherewithal to play the type of man-2-man coverage he was asked as UCLA. Will likely not test well at Indianapolis. Not a playmaker (3 INT’s in career) and older after an injury senior season gave him a redshirt year. Is likely a maxed out player and what you see is what you get. A size athlete, project safety and special teams contributor. Round 7
Rasul Douglas, West Virginia (6’2”, 203#)
Almost identical scouting report to Moreau. You want to like the size but he is very limited athletically and will never be able to move and keep up with NFL receivers. This is a special teamer/safety project or a sub package/matchup/depth player on your roster. Round 7
Aarion Penton, Missouri (5’10”, 190#)
Very nondescript prospect that will likely not run fast (4.6?) enough to be worth discussion as an NFL starter. He’s fundamentally okay and can backpedal and turn but he lacks that last step to make plays on a consistent basis. Roll player or special teamer at best. Round 7
Brendan Langley, Lamar (6’1”, 190#)
Converted WR. Only film I have is as WR vs. Baylor in 2015 (where he played 5 plays and scored a TD).
Howard Wilson*, Houston (6’1”, 185#)
No film yet. Redshirt sophomore.
Marlon Humphrey*, Alabama (6’1”, 198#)
One of the better, pure man-2-man guys I’ve scouted in a while. Can really stick with players downfield and is never out of a play. Good play awareness and times his contact well. Willing run defender. Really had a good test vs. Williams of Clemson. Timed speed will likely dictate spot in round 1 but he is a very solid cornerback prospect.
NFL Comparison: Marcus Peters
Tre’Davious White, LSU (5’11”, 190#)
Looks the part and plays rough, physical man-2-man coverage when asked. Uses hand at line of scrimmage and one of the few prospects I’ve scouted that jams and plays hand combat early in routes. Good size/length on film. Good footwork and hips. Physicality could draw penalties at next level but seems to have the ability to adjust and learn. Returned punts in college. Round 1
NFL Comparison: Vontae Davis
Marshon Lattimore*, Ohio State (6’0”, 190#)
Given the famed #2 at OSU and is coming out as a RS Sophomore. Really athletic, highly recruited prospect. Great height/length for position and will likely run very fast. Potential to get better. Lots of M2M stuff (along with Conley) and almost all the plays against OSU were in the middle of the field away from these guys. Better prospect to me than someone like Eli Apple from last year (who went #10 overall). Round 1
NFL Comparison: Jonathan Joseph
Teez Tabor*, Florida (6’0”, 199#)
There’s a lot to like on tape and not a lot of weaknesses. Timed speed will matter but really trusts his ability to mirror and stick with people. Not afraid to break off route and make plays. Good athlete but didn’t quite jump off film as great athlete. Fundamentals are very solid. Should be an immediate contributor to secondary. Round 1-2
NFL Comparison: Darrell Revis
Desmond King*, Iowa (5’-11”, 203#)
Well put together athlete that is thick in the lower half and strong. Returned kicks and punts for Iowa and likely their best athlete. Could potentially be a better safety prospect and can play a variety of secondary positions. Decent CB with smooth hip transition and speed to stick with people. Very curious how he tests at combine and could be exceptional athlete in which a case for 1st round grade might be warranted. Reminds me of a poor man’s Jalen Ramsey from last year. Round 2
NFL Comparison: Jalen Ramsey
Adoree’ Jackson, USC (5’11”, 185#)
A bit undersized but looks to have speed to burn and can really stick with downfield routes. Never run away from. Trusts his coverage to his legs and isn’t a press/bump/physical player at this point. Length looks good on film. As good a tackler as you can expect at his size/weight. Fundamentally sound athlete and smooth. Round 2
NFL Comparison:
Gareon Conley*, Ohio State (6’0”, 195#)
Pretty solid cornerback prospect with good height, length and athleticism for position. Moves well and is a fluid athlete. Played almost all man-2-man for OSU and was better the closer to the boundary he was. Mostly did a good job of sticking with receivers and being in the play. Not a lot of yards after catch against. A few hiccups in run support and needs to do better wrapping up. Round 2
Cameron Sutton, Tennessee (5’11”, 186#)
Smaller, feisty, aggressive cornerback prospect in the mold of Peanut Tillman and Pacman Jones. Very quick click-and-close ability. Is susceptible to double moves and pump fakes due to aggressiveness. Returns punts. Good SEC athlete. Another decent corner that has a good path to success and contribution at the next level. Safe pick. Round 2
NFL Comparison: Adam Jones
Marquez White, Florida State (6’1”, 185#)
Reminds me a lot of fellow FSU prospect P.J. Williams a few years ago (and maybe some Artie Burns). Will be a good athlete but not sure he’s super fast. Can get clutch/grabby on routes and will have to adjust to pass interference in the NFL. Very good size/length and lots of success will have to do with correct matchups. Did not have great tape vs. Houston in bowl game but is still a solid athlete/size prospect that can play. Round 3
NFL Comparison: P.J. Williams
Quincy Wilson*, Florida (6’1”, 213#)
Great size/length for position but quicker, smaller receivers are going to give him a really hard time. Cannot stop/start and has to play a physical game at the line of scrimmage. Anything with a quick break creates separation from him. But he’s a very good athlete and great size that is a perfect matchup vs. bigger receivers or slot tight ends. Might be able to convert to safety. Round 3
NFL Comparison: Malcolm Jenkins
Damontae Kazee, San Diego State (5’11”, 185#)
Very tough player and really loves to come downhill to support run. Hits with authority. Played RCB in lots of man setups. Speed & COD will matter, but looks like a very good slot corner because of toughness and willingness to get into the mix in run support. Can make plays on ball. Not sure I see an elite deep coverage guy and won’t stick with anyone for 3 seconds, but there’s a lot to like. Round 3-4
NFL Comparison: Orlando Scandrick
Cordrea Tankersley, Clemson (6’1”, 195#)
Another very tall and long CB prospect. Might question his top speed and struggles to keep up on fly routes. Is a very good zone defender with great wingspan and tackling ability. Not afraid to play physical. Best when plays are in front of him. Potential as a FS maybe? Good ball awareness and hands. Needs the right scheme and right expectations but can play football. Round 3-4
NFL Comparison: T. J. Green
Sidney Jones*, Washington (6’0”, 180#)
M2M, left cornerback in Washington’s aggressive scheme with lots of cushion/bail technique. Saw a few jams and blitzes in repertoire but nothing really stood out. As a man coverage guy he’s okay. Good height/length and speed will matter (didn’t see super speed on tape). Below average in run support and would have liked to see more urgency/toughness to get involved. Treats his job like he does only one thing (cover his guy) and that’s it. Round 4
NFL Comparison: Jeremy Lane
Channing Stribling, Michigan (6’2”, 175#)
Another very tall, long, skinny prospect in the mold of King and Witherspoon. Tape was decent vs. Ohio State and did some man-under and zone concepts in addition to straight deep man stuff. Follows deep ball well and is a very good coverage guy on downfield stuff due to speed/length. Underneath and quicker COD routes can give him a bit of trouble as he’s all arms/legs and can’t quite keep up with speedy, smaller guys. Willing tackler but can easily be wiped out by big, physical receivers that might have 20-30lbs on him. Round 4
Corn Elder, Miami (5’10”, 183#)
He’s a Steelers type of CB. Plays a lot of off-man coverage and is a willing and good tackler despite size limitations. Decent athlete and can run. Active player involved in a lot of the action. Effort is very good on special teams coverage and makes plays. Will never be the type to cover a #1 WR by himself but can contribute in a group secondary mentality. Round 4-5
NFL Comparison: William Gay
Kevin King, Washington (6’3”, 190#)
Super tall and long for position with huge wingspan. Is not the shiftiest of athletes and can clutch/grab against quick cuts and change of directions. Decent run support but is more a wrap-and-fall type of tackler and not very physical or punishing. Gives up plays and not the most productive. 2015 tape as slot/zone defender was not very good. Eye of beholder player (like teammate Jones) and combine will matter to both players. Round 4-5
Jourdan Lewis, Michigan (5’10”, 175#)
Very undersized and plays aggressive in-your-pocket coverage all over field in talented Michigan secondary. When bigger receivers try to play stop/start games with him, he’s right there, but too many times on film I see guys run away from him on longer, crossing or downfield routes (top speed?). For size, still shows toughness and willing tackler. Can return kicks. Will start career as a slot/matchup defender and kickoff guy that needs right system. Round 5
Ahkello Witherspoon, Colorado (6’3”, 190#)
Very tall and long. Looks very good off snap with low back peddle and nice hip turn. Might lack top-speed or 2nd gear because I see receivers get separation when ball is in air. Does not have good ball awareness or play sense. Kind of locked into his own world of M2M coverage. Needs improvement on run support and toughness. Another tall CB in the mold of Kevin King that will have to run fast and show COD skills. Round 5
Chidobe Awuzie, Colorado (6’0”, 203#)
Looks more like a projected safety type and lacks required speed/COD to be NFL cornerback. Good athlete and coverage player on special teams and should offer competition to those groups early while he finds a spot on defense. A zone defender on the outside that tackles decent (not great) and can offer some edge blitzes or slot defending. Has trouble whenever he follows a receiver for long across or down field. Round 6
Jalen Myrick, Minnesota (5’10”, 205#)
Not a sum of his parts. Will likely run very fast and has track build with huge thighs. Returns kicks and is a straight line athlete. Hips are stiff and can look awkward in space. Limited game awareness (just starting game or position switch?). Does not pick up ball well in air and is not a playmaker. Round 6-7
Fabian Moreau, UCLA (6’0”, 200#)
Very nice size for position but top end speed and athletic limitations could be a move to safety or bust. Kind of lacks the wherewithal to play the type of man-2-man coverage he was asked as UCLA. Will likely not test well at Indianapolis. Not a playmaker (3 INT’s in career) and older after an injury senior season gave him a redshirt year. Is likely a maxed out player and what you see is what you get. A size athlete, project safety and special teams contributor. Round 7
Rasul Douglas, West Virginia (6’2”, 203#)
Almost identical scouting report to Moreau. You want to like the size but he is very limited athletically and will never be able to move and keep up with NFL receivers. This is a special teamer/safety project or a sub package/matchup/depth player on your roster. Round 7
Aarion Penton, Missouri (5’10”, 190#)
Very nondescript prospect that will likely not run fast (4.6?) enough to be worth discussion as an NFL starter. He’s fundamentally okay and can backpedal and turn but he lacks that last step to make plays on a consistent basis. Roll player or special teamer at best. Round 7
Brendan Langley, Lamar (6’1”, 190#)
Converted WR. Only film I have is as WR vs. Baylor in 2015 (where he played 5 plays and scored a TD).
Howard Wilson*, Houston (6’1”, 185#)
No film yet. Redshirt sophomore.
I wouldn't be upset with two prospects early and mid round.........
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Like I said earlier in the thread, I think Cornerback is the best position in this draft. Obviously a lot of that has to do with timed speed. I've seen whole groups of corners run like 4.5 to 4.6 at the combine and then you really have to second guess what you want to do.
But I suspect many of these guys have legit 4.4 speed and if that's the case I think this will be THE position people are talking about after the first 2 rounds of the draft. It would not shock me that 10 corners (and possibly 5 safeties) get drafted in the first two rounds this year.
But I suspect many of these guys have legit 4.4 speed and if that's the case I think this will be THE position people are talking about after the first 2 rounds of the draft. It would not shock me that 10 corners (and possibly 5 safeties) get drafted in the first two rounds this year.
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PRE COMBINE OFFENSIVE GUARDS/CENTERS TAPE EVALUATION
Dan Feeney, Indiana (6’4”, 310#)
I really liked his tape. Physical and plays through whistle and is a 60-minute player; relentless. Powerful in drive blocks without having to be 340lbs. and can really anchor and turn the tide in a one-on-one battle. Moves very well on pulls and finds and buries targets consistently. I’m not saying he’s as good as David DeCatro, but he looks an awful lot like him on film (down to the white/red uniform). Round 1-2
NFL Comparison: David DeCastro
Dorian Johnson, Pittsburgh (6’5”, 300#)
Very athletic interior player that has excellent wheels and frame for NFL work. Very comparable to the Pouncey twins when you watch his tape. Often releases his line block too quick and races to the 2nd level (Pounceys do this too). Excellent 2nd level blocker and is often involved downfield. Decent, but not great, in pass protection. Quick off snap. Offers versatility and likely could play center. Round 2
NFL Comparison: Mike Pouncey
Nico Siragusa, San Diego St. (6’5”, 335#)
Big and strong and built as a natural power guard. Should do very well on strength tests in Indianapolis. Often pulled from LG spot but I wouldn’t say he always hits his targets. Is best when just firing out of stance and manning up on guys. Decent move skills and adequate at pass protection. I think he’s a pretty safe and solid left guard prospect and while he’s not the most position versatile has legitimate starter qualities. Round 2-3
NFL Comparison: Mike Iaputi
Danny Isidora, Miami (6’4”, 310#)
There is nice athleticism to his game and he maintains his balance and footwork throughout the play. Very good explosion off snap and stays low. Looks more like a 6’2” or 6’3” guard and might be a bit undersized for some and his lack of height/length exposes itself when asked to pass block one-on-one. Can often get out over his feet and lunge in pass protection. I always like these types of guys on tape, but they fail to live up to my expectations/draft rankings. Very similar to recent prospects Jonathan Cooper and A.J. Cann. Round 3-4
NFL Comparison: Jonathan Cooper/A.J. Cann
Zach Banner, USC (6’9”, 360#)
He’s the biggest lineman I’ve ever scouted I think. Massive human being that can swallow up pass rushers but once a guy releases from him, it’s a hold EVERY TIME. Played RT for USC and while he obviously struggles laterally can run okay for his girth. I don’t know what to say. Not many of these types of lineman in the league anymore. Is probably not the athlete of someone like Leonard Davis was and reminds me more of Hermann Johnson out of LSU in 2009 (who I liked but never developed into anything in the pros). Like Davis will be heavily penalized but has the unique ability of just destroying people on plays. Very tough scout. Round 3-4
NFL Comparison: Leonard Davis/Hermann Johnson
Isaac Asiata, Utah (6’3”, 323#)
Strong, mauling LG for Utes that is best when he can lock on and turn his man. Lacks quality footwork and can struggle with lateral movements and guys that cross his face. Not very good in pass protection and when going backward. Not a 2nd level type of guard. Pull ability is adequate but not great due to general lack of athleticism. Limited positional versatility. Round 4
NFL Comparison: Gabe Jackson
Damien Mama*, USC (6’4”, 355#)
Really big and thick and maybe carries too much weight. Can be a little top heavy at times and when he goes down, he’s down for the count. Surprisingly gets walked back into pocket too often for his size and doesn’t anchor as well as you’d like. He has exceptional feet for a man his size and often is involved at the 2nd level and can pull, but can’t always get a clean lick on the LB’s to block them and ends up leaning or diving at legs. Frustrating film because he does move very well for a guy 350 pounds but it doesn’t translate into the kind of wow blocks you would expect. Round 4
NFL Comparison: John Jerry/Chris Kemoeatu
Sean Harlow, Oregon (6’4”, 300#)
Played left tackle for the Ducks but projects more inside due to height/length issues. Will struggle adapting to NFL power at the next level and saw him hip tossed a few times. Will have to change body type a bit his rookie season. Is better as a move/zone blocking type and often pulled even from the tackle spot. Athletic looking on the move. Not a bad player, but has to find the right scheme fit and maybe invest a year or two to pay dividends. Round 4-5
Jordan Morgan, Kutztown (6’4”, 320#)
Small school left tackle with NFL size/length. Might even project to RT in pros as much as guard. Mostly a power blocker in college and does not quite have the finesse/technique of a FBS prospect. Shows good nastiness for the position and likes contact. Like a lot of small school prospect worth checking out Shrine Game or Senior Bowl on how he held up vs. FBS prospects. Might be another Willie Colon type. Round 5
NFL Comparison: Willie Colon
Pat Elflein, Ohio State (6’3”, 300#)
Not the most physically gifted athlete in terms of size/length, but he fights through the whistle. Technically sound player that doesn’t have a major weakness and will do the little things well. A bit undersized at this point to be a backup guard and dress for game days but he’s very close to being NFL ready as a center. Not a dominant one-on-one type player but more a cog in the wheel of a good offensive line group. Round 5
Kyle Fuller, Baylor (6’5”, 305#)
Really tall and long limbed for position (played center) and relies on length to do all his work for him. Excellent at pass blocking and combination blocks. Is not a hold and drive type talent and is a perfect fit for a similar type Baylor, spread system. Can’t pull effectively and on short yardage has a tough time getting low on power runs. Very unusual shape and I didn’t want to like him but he had very good film vs. Texas Tech. Round 5-6
Ethan Pocic, LSU (6’7”, 309#)
Intriguing size prospect and seems to do job okay as center for LSU but nothing really jumps out at you as super special. Size to play a lot of spots on the offensive line and that will get him drafted but not sure quite where he fits right now. Interesting comparison to another tall center in Kyle Fuller because of the drastic differences in offensive systems. Round 5-6
Tyler Orlosky, West Virginia (6’4”, 295#)
Good height/length for a center prospect and likely offers some position versatility. Played in very high-paced, spread offense and did a lot of work in quick pass blocking schemes. Not a physical, mauling player and everything was tandem blocks and likely will struggle with physically powerful nose tackles and 1-techniques. Cut block at times and might be best in zone blocking scheme concepts. Eye of beholder player that needs right system to do well but as teams move to more spread concepts and zone blocking, this type of prospect with his height/length fits. Round 6
Forrest Lamp, Western Kentucky (6’4”, 300#)
Small school left tackle and best lineman on his team looking for a chance inside at the next level to provide position versatility as a backup. Not bad effort guy but whole team was outclassed by Alabama on film I watched. Will have to watch combine on him to judge movement skills and maybe where he fits but looks like a late draft depth guy. Round 6
Jon Toth, Kentucky (6’5”, 310#)
Very good size for a C/G type but really lacks athleticism and footwork. A plodding player that often stops feet on contact and can lose leverage and power. Lunges often and is below average in space. Size and center experience are only positives and looks to be a career backup to me. Round 6-7
Kareem Are, Florida State (6’6”, 325#)
Did not like tape vs. Wake Forest. Too often loses man, twists and on ground. Loses one-on-one battle often and can get pushed off spot despite size. Lacks lateral footwork once contact is engaged and is susceptible on swims and strong moves across his face. Slow and plodding on pulls. Covered up by the talent of Roderick Johnson who played next to him. Round 6-7
Dan Feeney, Indiana (6’4”, 310#)
I really liked his tape. Physical and plays through whistle and is a 60-minute player; relentless. Powerful in drive blocks without having to be 340lbs. and can really anchor and turn the tide in a one-on-one battle. Moves very well on pulls and finds and buries targets consistently. I’m not saying he’s as good as David DeCatro, but he looks an awful lot like him on film (down to the white/red uniform). Round 1-2
NFL Comparison: David DeCastro
Dorian Johnson, Pittsburgh (6’5”, 300#)
Very athletic interior player that has excellent wheels and frame for NFL work. Very comparable to the Pouncey twins when you watch his tape. Often releases his line block too quick and races to the 2nd level (Pounceys do this too). Excellent 2nd level blocker and is often involved downfield. Decent, but not great, in pass protection. Quick off snap. Offers versatility and likely could play center. Round 2
NFL Comparison: Mike Pouncey
Nico Siragusa, San Diego St. (6’5”, 335#)
Big and strong and built as a natural power guard. Should do very well on strength tests in Indianapolis. Often pulled from LG spot but I wouldn’t say he always hits his targets. Is best when just firing out of stance and manning up on guys. Decent move skills and adequate at pass protection. I think he’s a pretty safe and solid left guard prospect and while he’s not the most position versatile has legitimate starter qualities. Round 2-3
NFL Comparison: Mike Iaputi
Danny Isidora, Miami (6’4”, 310#)
There is nice athleticism to his game and he maintains his balance and footwork throughout the play. Very good explosion off snap and stays low. Looks more like a 6’2” or 6’3” guard and might be a bit undersized for some and his lack of height/length exposes itself when asked to pass block one-on-one. Can often get out over his feet and lunge in pass protection. I always like these types of guys on tape, but they fail to live up to my expectations/draft rankings. Very similar to recent prospects Jonathan Cooper and A.J. Cann. Round 3-4
NFL Comparison: Jonathan Cooper/A.J. Cann
Zach Banner, USC (6’9”, 360#)
He’s the biggest lineman I’ve ever scouted I think. Massive human being that can swallow up pass rushers but once a guy releases from him, it’s a hold EVERY TIME. Played RT for USC and while he obviously struggles laterally can run okay for his girth. I don’t know what to say. Not many of these types of lineman in the league anymore. Is probably not the athlete of someone like Leonard Davis was and reminds me more of Hermann Johnson out of LSU in 2009 (who I liked but never developed into anything in the pros). Like Davis will be heavily penalized but has the unique ability of just destroying people on plays. Very tough scout. Round 3-4
NFL Comparison: Leonard Davis/Hermann Johnson
Isaac Asiata, Utah (6’3”, 323#)
Strong, mauling LG for Utes that is best when he can lock on and turn his man. Lacks quality footwork and can struggle with lateral movements and guys that cross his face. Not very good in pass protection and when going backward. Not a 2nd level type of guard. Pull ability is adequate but not great due to general lack of athleticism. Limited positional versatility. Round 4
NFL Comparison: Gabe Jackson
Damien Mama*, USC (6’4”, 355#)
Really big and thick and maybe carries too much weight. Can be a little top heavy at times and when he goes down, he’s down for the count. Surprisingly gets walked back into pocket too often for his size and doesn’t anchor as well as you’d like. He has exceptional feet for a man his size and often is involved at the 2nd level and can pull, but can’t always get a clean lick on the LB’s to block them and ends up leaning or diving at legs. Frustrating film because he does move very well for a guy 350 pounds but it doesn’t translate into the kind of wow blocks you would expect. Round 4
NFL Comparison: John Jerry/Chris Kemoeatu
Sean Harlow, Oregon (6’4”, 300#)
Played left tackle for the Ducks but projects more inside due to height/length issues. Will struggle adapting to NFL power at the next level and saw him hip tossed a few times. Will have to change body type a bit his rookie season. Is better as a move/zone blocking type and often pulled even from the tackle spot. Athletic looking on the move. Not a bad player, but has to find the right scheme fit and maybe invest a year or two to pay dividends. Round 4-5
Jordan Morgan, Kutztown (6’4”, 320#)
Small school left tackle with NFL size/length. Might even project to RT in pros as much as guard. Mostly a power blocker in college and does not quite have the finesse/technique of a FBS prospect. Shows good nastiness for the position and likes contact. Like a lot of small school prospect worth checking out Shrine Game or Senior Bowl on how he held up vs. FBS prospects. Might be another Willie Colon type. Round 5
NFL Comparison: Willie Colon
Pat Elflein, Ohio State (6’3”, 300#)
Not the most physically gifted athlete in terms of size/length, but he fights through the whistle. Technically sound player that doesn’t have a major weakness and will do the little things well. A bit undersized at this point to be a backup guard and dress for game days but he’s very close to being NFL ready as a center. Not a dominant one-on-one type player but more a cog in the wheel of a good offensive line group. Round 5
Kyle Fuller, Baylor (6’5”, 305#)
Really tall and long limbed for position (played center) and relies on length to do all his work for him. Excellent at pass blocking and combination blocks. Is not a hold and drive type talent and is a perfect fit for a similar type Baylor, spread system. Can’t pull effectively and on short yardage has a tough time getting low on power runs. Very unusual shape and I didn’t want to like him but he had very good film vs. Texas Tech. Round 5-6
Ethan Pocic, LSU (6’7”, 309#)
Intriguing size prospect and seems to do job okay as center for LSU but nothing really jumps out at you as super special. Size to play a lot of spots on the offensive line and that will get him drafted but not sure quite where he fits right now. Interesting comparison to another tall center in Kyle Fuller because of the drastic differences in offensive systems. Round 5-6
Tyler Orlosky, West Virginia (6’4”, 295#)
Good height/length for a center prospect and likely offers some position versatility. Played in very high-paced, spread offense and did a lot of work in quick pass blocking schemes. Not a physical, mauling player and everything was tandem blocks and likely will struggle with physically powerful nose tackles and 1-techniques. Cut block at times and might be best in zone blocking scheme concepts. Eye of beholder player that needs right system to do well but as teams move to more spread concepts and zone blocking, this type of prospect with his height/length fits. Round 6
Forrest Lamp, Western Kentucky (6’4”, 300#)
Small school left tackle and best lineman on his team looking for a chance inside at the next level to provide position versatility as a backup. Not bad effort guy but whole team was outclassed by Alabama on film I watched. Will have to watch combine on him to judge movement skills and maybe where he fits but looks like a late draft depth guy. Round 6
Jon Toth, Kentucky (6’5”, 310#)
Very good size for a C/G type but really lacks athleticism and footwork. A plodding player that often stops feet on contact and can lose leverage and power. Lunges often and is below average in space. Size and center experience are only positives and looks to be a career backup to me. Round 6-7
Kareem Are, Florida State (6’6”, 325#)
Did not like tape vs. Wake Forest. Too often loses man, twists and on ground. Loses one-on-one battle often and can get pushed off spot despite size. Lacks lateral footwork once contact is engaged and is susceptible on swims and strong moves across his face. Slow and plodding on pulls. Covered up by the talent of Roderick Johnson who played next to him. Round 6-7
question....
I'd like to see us draft Tim Williams... and who wouldn't.
But, let's say for ***** and giggles he's taken midway through the draft.
and Jabrill Peppers is still available.
Would you package to move up and draft him? A secondary of Peppers, Burns and Davis (and later CB) would be pretty ******* awesome for years to come.
I'd like to see us draft Tim Williams... and who wouldn't.
But, let's say for ***** and giggles he's taken midway through the draft.
and Jabrill Peppers is still available.
Would you package to move up and draft him? A secondary of Peppers, Burns and Davis (and later CB) would be pretty ******* awesome for years to come.
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As a fan of a different B1G team who has watched Peppers play a lot, my opinion is that Peppers is not worth a trade-up. If he's available at 30, then okay I'll think about it because he has elite athletic ability. But his lack of actual production is alarming. He's like a Ferrari whose driver is afraid to go over 60mph. I think he caused a total of 1 or 2 turnovers his entire college career. He scored 6 TDs total (offense, defense, return game) in his career. Unbelievable physical ability, but I'll believe he's a first rounder when I see him actually making those game-changing plays that you expect when you draft an elite athlete
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Rueben Foster, Alabama (6’1”, 240#)
Really, really good second gear that jumps out on film. Often slides around/under blockers because of sneaky speed and acceleration into play. Unloads on tackles and is great at creating power from his frame and unwinds hips naturally. Would not say he’s elite at pass rushing and stops moves when running into lineman. Has the quicks to play man-under coverage and is great at sniffing out screens. Legit sideline-to-sideline coverage. He’s a very good inside linebacker prospect and has all the tools/ability you want to play in multiple fronts. Round 1
NFL Comparison: Sean Lee
Jarrad Davis, Florida (6’2”, 230#)
SEC runner-hitter athlete who’s a little light in the pants for grunt work in the trenches. Very good at delay reads and then coming downhill fast into play. Click-and-close speed is very good. Can cover a TE man-2-man with his length and speed and plays a bit like a SS/WILL hybrid (which are popular these days). Should contribute on special teams day 1 and could be very good coverage guy. Round 2-3
NFL Comparison: Lavonte David
Alex Anzalone*, Florida (6’3”, 241#)
Very nice height/size for position. Is a very active participant in plays and moves very well as an athlete. Reminds me a lot of Kiko Alonso and plays a very similar type game. Sneaky athlete in pass defense with a good feel for zones and reads play well. Nothing “wow” on film but as an underclassman should get a lot of interest for his skill set. Round 2-3
NFL Comparison: Kiko Alonso
Zach Cunningham*, Vanderbilt (6’4”, 230#)
Tall, rangy, athletic build that looks like a pass rusher more than the traditional linebacker he plays. Extremely long arms. Kind of a bull in a china shop at times and searching for his natural position. Elite athlete that is still a work in progress. Should test well at Indy. Frame to gain weight and will have to be molded by good staff. Kind of reminds me of a poor-mans Leonard Floyd from last year’s draft but Cunningham isn’t quite that elite edge rusher. I think he should have stayed in school to develop more pass rush skills, but he will get drafted due to raw ability and production. Round 3
NFL Comparison: Chad Greenway/Leonard Floyd
Kendell Beckwith, LSU (6’2”, 252#)
Ideal size/build and looks the part but as you watch the film it just doesn’t come all together. Might be an overhyped player? Is best when coming downhill strong and blowing up blockers and often creates movement in running backs that lead to tackles elsewhere. Very average as an underneath zone defender and is not the quickest in/out of breaks. A step late in space. If he is tentative in his reads, guards/centers can get into him and cause him issues. There are some guys like this around as SAM (4-3) or ILB (3-4) but not a lot of systems are going bigger/slower in their linebacking core. A bit like the older, bulked up Lawrence Timmons. Round 3
NFL Comparison: Rey Maualuga
Raekwon McMillan*, Ohio State (6’2”, 240#)
Very similar analysis to Beckwith. A bigger, inside-the-box MLB that stays predominantly within 10 yards of the line of scrimmage. Best when coming downhill into play where his size/power can work. Not elite at any one thing and struggles in space and against shifty opponents. Not elite speed to really cover sideline-to-sideline. Solid technician and doesn’t give up gaps as quick as Beckwith does and is probably a bit surer tackler. But still he is lacking a step and might be restricted to 2-down work at the next level. Round 4
Nick DeLuca, North Dakota St. (6’3”, 240#)
Really smooth athlete on film for a small-school prospect. Can really turn hips well and run. Film shows him all over field both deep/short and is not just an in-the-box player. I really like his tape. He’s not the fastest (though he’s not slow) or the toughest, but just gets the job done and is very versatile and can maybe play all three linebacker spots in a pinch. Round 4-5
Duke Riley, LSU (6’1”, 230#)
You can see the dynamic between Riley and fellow Tiger, Beckwith. Best when Beckwith is the hammer and blows up blockers while Riley cleans things up. An athletic runner/hitter that looks to have okay speed and sideline-to-sideline coverage. Saw him run with RB’s and receivers on short routes and is not afraid to turn and run. Not a bad player but limited to scheme fit at WILL. Combine will matter to see how good an athlete he is and how he compares to the list of undersized 220-230 lb. weak side prospects in this draft. Round 5
Anthony Walker Jr.*, Northwestern (6’1”, 235#)
Slightly bowlegged, squatty, sideline-to-sideline interior linebacker. Not the best in traffic and often takes the path of least resistance even if it takes him out of play or off his gap. A bit slippery when getting off blocks and effort is there to sometimes make plays. Limited in coverage and would be a liability in man-under concepts. Not elite height/length for zone. Round 5-6
Marquel Lee, Wake Forest (6’3”, 240#)
Is probably not the best athlete, but he does a lot right. Slightly odd build/bubble, but has very long arms and disengages well (although often being pushed back). Does not have great “pop” and power to his game and lacks some hip action during contact. Smooth at running down line and finding gap openings. Not bad in trash. Okay tackler but not great. Zone defense type pass defender due to arm length. Timed speed will matter and I suspect he’s a tick on the slow side but there is production in his play and he often gets the job done. Might be maxed out as a good college player and doesn’t have that next level of athleticism to continue the journey. Round 6
Paul Magloire Jr., Arizona (6’0”, 225#)
An undersized WILL/S hybrid that despite his size limitations can really do a lot as a player. Lined up all over Arizona’s front-7 and saw him even pass rush OT’s as an edge defender. Quick more than fast and is best at sliding through/around traffic. Made a lot of plays at the East-West Shrine Game and was all over the field. Looks like a standout special teamer that could surprise a bit as a WILL prospect. Round 6
Elijah Lee*, Kansas St. (6’3”, 220#)
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Rueben Foster, Alabama (6’1”, 240#)
Really, really good second gear that jumps out on film. Often slides around/under blockers because of sneaky speed and acceleration into play. Unloads on tackles and is great at creating power from his frame and unwinds hips naturally. Would not say he’s elite at pass rushing and stops moves when running into lineman. Has the quicks to play man-under coverage and is great at sniffing out screens. Legit sideline-to-sideline coverage. He’s a very good inside linebacker prospect and has all the tools/ability you want to play in multiple fronts. Round 1
NFL Comparison: Sean Lee
Jarrad Davis, Florida (6’2”, 230#)
SEC runner-hitter athlete who’s a little light in the pants for grunt work in the trenches. Very good at delay reads and then coming downhill fast into play. Click-and-close speed is very good. Can cover a TE man-2-man with his length and speed and plays a bit like a SS/WILL hybrid (which are popular these days). Should contribute on special teams day 1 and could be very good coverage guy. Round 2-3
NFL Comparison: Lavonte David
Alex Anzalone*, Florida (6’3”, 241#)
Very nice height/size for position. Is a very active participant in plays and moves very well as an athlete. Reminds me a lot of Kiko Alonso and plays a very similar type game. Sneaky athlete in pass defense with a good feel for zones and reads play well. Nothing “wow” on film but as an underclassman should get a lot of interest for his skill set. Round 2-3
NFL Comparison: Kiko Alonso
Zach Cunningham*, Vanderbilt (6’4”, 230#)
Tall, rangy, athletic build that looks like a pass rusher more than the traditional linebacker he plays. Extremely long arms. Kind of a bull in a china shop at times and searching for his natural position. Elite athlete that is still a work in progress. Should test well at Indy. Frame to gain weight and will have to be molded by good staff. Kind of reminds me of a poor-mans Leonard Floyd from last year’s draft but Cunningham isn’t quite that elite edge rusher. I think he should have stayed in school to develop more pass rush skills, but he will get drafted due to raw ability and production. Round 3
NFL Comparison: Chad Greenway/Leonard Floyd
Kendell Beckwith, LSU (6’2”, 252#)
Ideal size/build and looks the part but as you watch the film it just doesn’t come all together. Might be an overhyped player? Is best when coming downhill strong and blowing up blockers and often creates movement in running backs that lead to tackles elsewhere. Very average as an underneath zone defender and is not the quickest in/out of breaks. A step late in space. If he is tentative in his reads, guards/centers can get into him and cause him issues. There are some guys like this around as SAM (4-3) or ILB (3-4) but not a lot of systems are going bigger/slower in their linebacking core. A bit like the older, bulked up Lawrence Timmons. Round 3
NFL Comparison: Rey Maualuga
Raekwon McMillan*, Ohio State (6’2”, 240#)
Very similar analysis to Beckwith. A bigger, inside-the-box MLB that stays predominantly within 10 yards of the line of scrimmage. Best when coming downhill into play where his size/power can work. Not elite at any one thing and struggles in space and against shifty opponents. Not elite speed to really cover sideline-to-sideline. Solid technician and doesn’t give up gaps as quick as Beckwith does and is probably a bit surer tackler. But still he is lacking a step and might be restricted to 2-down work at the next level. Round 4
Nick DeLuca, North Dakota St. (6’3”, 240#)
Really smooth athlete on film for a small-school prospect. Can really turn hips well and run. Film shows him all over field both deep/short and is not just an in-the-box player. I really like his tape. He’s not the fastest (though he’s not slow) or the toughest, but just gets the job done and is very versatile and can maybe play all three linebacker spots in a pinch. Round 4-5
Duke Riley, LSU (6’1”, 230#)
You can see the dynamic between Riley and fellow Tiger, Beckwith. Best when Beckwith is the hammer and blows up blockers while Riley cleans things up. An athletic runner/hitter that looks to have okay speed and sideline-to-sideline coverage. Saw him run with RB’s and receivers on short routes and is not afraid to turn and run. Not a bad player but limited to scheme fit at WILL. Combine will matter to see how good an athlete he is and how he compares to the list of undersized 220-230 lb. weak side prospects in this draft. Round 5
Anthony Walker Jr.*, Northwestern (6’1”, 235#)
Slightly bowlegged, squatty, sideline-to-sideline interior linebacker. Not the best in traffic and often takes the path of least resistance even if it takes him out of play or off his gap. A bit slippery when getting off blocks and effort is there to sometimes make plays. Limited in coverage and would be a liability in man-under concepts. Not elite height/length for zone. Round 5-6
Marquel Lee, Wake Forest (6’3”, 240#)
Is probably not the best athlete, but he does a lot right. Slightly odd build/bubble, but has very long arms and disengages well (although often being pushed back). Does not have great “pop” and power to his game and lacks some hip action during contact. Smooth at running down line and finding gap openings. Not bad in trash. Okay tackler but not great. Zone defense type pass defender due to arm length. Timed speed will matter and I suspect he’s a tick on the slow side but there is production in his play and he often gets the job done. Might be maxed out as a good college player and doesn’t have that next level of athleticism to continue the journey. Round 6
Paul Magloire Jr., Arizona (6’0”, 225#)
An undersized WILL/S hybrid that despite his size limitations can really do a lot as a player. Lined up all over Arizona’s front-7 and saw him even pass rush OT’s as an edge defender. Quick more than fast and is best at sliding through/around traffic. Made a lot of plays at the East-West Shrine Game and was all over the field. Looks like a standout special teamer that could surprise a bit as a WILL prospect. Round 6
Elijah Lee*, Kansas St. (6’3”, 220#)
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Mitch Trubisky*, North Carolina (6’3”, 220#)
Athletic, gunslinger type that likes to push the ball downfield and trusts his arm. Pretty decent when pushed off his spot and keeps eyes downfield and can throw at odd arm angles. Velocity is above average and shows nice power off back foot and when feet aren’t perfect. One year starter and a bit inexperienced and is rising as a prospect. Potential is there to be best QB in this class and only one to show ability to attack all parts of the field consistently. Because of age/experience probably needs a year to mature, but talent is there to be long-term starter in the NFL. Round 1
NFL Comparison: Philip Rivers
One-year starter (13 games, 8-5), 34.3 att/game, 68% thrower, 30-6 TD-INT
Deshaun Watson*, Clemson (6’2”, 210#)
Very production, winning prospect that came in 3rd and 2nd in Heisman voting the last two seasons. 31-3 record as starter (lost first start as freshman) and ending as winning championship QB vs. Alabama. Played with lots of elite speed athletes in spread system. Explosive athlete with his legs with quick acceleration and movement skills. Can really burn defenses with designed runs and scrambles and gain chunks of yards quick. Good and adequate arm talent with quick wrist snap and velocity. Not a bad deep ball. Athletic talent to make rollouts look easy. Very similar to a college/rookie version of Robert Griffin III and could have that type of immediate success in right system/coaching with good athletes around him. Also similar to Griffin in his body shape and possible concerns about taking hits but he looks to protect his body much better than Griffin ever did/does. Long term evolution as a QB is tough to predict and while short term success is possible (maybe even likely) based on his explosive athleticism how he adjusts and grows will ultimately decide if he can produce a consistent top-10 offense. Round 1-2
NFL Comparison: Robert Griffin III
34 starts, 31-3 record, 35 att/game + 12 rushing att/game, 86-31 TD-INT in starts (26 rushing TD’s), 67.4% thrower, 8.4YPA
Brad Kaaya*, Miami (6’4”, 210#)
He’s a pretty decent arm talent and probably throws the best deep ball in this draft class. Can really drop it in a bucket. Arm strength to throw the deep out route. Started as true freshman and has 38 career starts. A bit raw on instincts for position at this point and doesn’t quite have the nuance of a great field general. A bit light in the seat/thighs but has frame to get bigger if necessary. Reminds me a bit of Joe Flacco and is best in a system that likes to throw the deep ball and deep outs combined with a lot of underneath stuff to pull up coverages. That’s his game and like a lot of the other top QB’s in this class can succeed as a top-15 type QB in the league but top end is limited and likely never a dynamic top-5 or top-10 QB consistently. Round 2
NFL Comparison: Joe Flacco
38 starts, 22-16 record, 31 att/game, 69-24 TD-INT, 60.6% thrower, 8.4YPA
DeShone Kizer*, Notre Dame (6’4”, 230#)
Very big and thick in the lower half. Stands tall in pocket with a bit of a windup and strong arm. Does not throw the prettiest ball, isn’t always a tight spiral, and might be difficult to catch at times (can overthrow). Can play the big, power-O option/wildcat stuff but is not a breakaway runner and will not run away from NFL athletes like he sometimes did in college. Decent on the move and can throw across his body. Very similar mold to Jameis Winston and Dak Prescott and I think that’s the peak for him at the next level. Is very young prospect (redshirt sophomore) so he might take time to develop. Expect growing pains and similar progression to Winston but there is upside in this prospect. Round 2
NFL Comparison: Jameis Winston
24 starts (part-time first start), 29 att/gm, 60.7% thrower, 47-19 TN-INT, 8.35 YPA
Nathan Peterman, Pittsburgh (6’2”, 225#)
Strong arm with short, compact motion off the shoulder. Can make most of the throws and is very decent at rolling right (need to see a more rollouts to left). Decent athleticism for a rollout system QB but is not a wildcat option. Good scrambler at times. A Tennessee transfer and older prospect. Lacks a bit of “feel” for the game and is a bit choppy/anxious in his body language. Might be a one speed thrower and lacks ability to throw at different arm angles or feel the correct touch on shorter balls. Has experience under center and with play action. Might need work on deep ball accuracy. A very similar prospect to Derek Carr and looks very similar on tape. Carr has a bit more instincts/calmness for the game but the skill set is almost identical. That’s his top potential. Round 4
NFL Comparison: Derek Carr
25 starts, 60% thrower, 24.6 att/game, only one 300 yard game, 47-13 TD-INT in starts, 8.3 YPA
Chad Kelly, Mississippi (6’2”, 215#)
There’s a lot of old-school football when you watch his film and reminds me of old black-and-white Johnny Unitas or Ken Stabler videos. Sometimes stupid tough and exposes himself to hits. Is not a “soft faller”. Coming off ACL surgery in November and could be injury prone. Has whippy arm action with good velocity but sometimes arm doesn’t deliver what his brain sees/thinks it can. A little David Fales/Colt McCoy in his game and could hang around in the league longer than you think. Seems to have a good understanding of the game and reads. Transfer from Clemson (away from Watson). Too bad, but I don’t think he can last as a starting QB playing as reckless as he does, but could be fun, exciting backup at times. Round 5-6
NFL Comparison: Colt McCoy
22 Starts (14-8), 36.5 att/game, 64% thrower, 50-21 TD-INT, 8.7YPA
Patrick Mahomes*, Texas Tech (6’3”, 219#)
Very raw, spread offense QB. Should have stayed in school because his lower body fundamentals are horrible. All arm thrower and very inconsistent accuracy. Tape against West Virginia was bad. Is not a great threat with his legs but is best when on the move rolling out and throwing downfield to broken coverage (although accuracy is still all over the place). Arm strength is there but not elite like Kapernick or Newton (similar arm throwers with questionable lower body fundamentals). I don’t like him as a prospect much at all. I revisited Dak Prescott’s tape to compare (because Mahomes would need a similar situation to be successful) and at least Prescott has solid fundaments in his lower half and decent accuracy because of it. Plus Prescott is bigger/thicker and offers some power wildcat stuff. Mahomes is just so poor in his lower half right now he’s at least 2-3 years away in my opinion. Round 6
NFL Comparison: Dak Prescott/Colin Kapernick
28 starts, 47 att/game, 63.5% thrower, once threw for 734 yards in a game (88 attempts), 91-27 TD-INT ratio
Davis Webb, California (6’5”, 225#)
Transferred from Texas Tech after losing starting job to Mahomes and replaced #1 pick Jared Goff for lone senior season at California. Very tall and well built prospect with decent throwing motion. As with many spread systems throws a LOT of passes behind line of scrimmage (vs. Stanford I saw him throw 6 WR screens in a row). As plays get further down the field his accuracy and decision making gets worse. Did not see a lot of reads and progressions. A lot of his work is short or deep bombs. Timed, intermediate routes do not seem part of his repertoire yet. When he looks off safeties it looks premeditated and robotic. Has okay legs for his height and can scramble for a few first downs a game, but is not a running QB and won’t outrun anyone at the pro level. He’s a tempting size athlete with okay velocity that likely needs a lot of technical work. Hard to judge growth in a system due to transfer (although Texas Tech and Cal run similar offensive styles). Hard to say he’s better than Mahomes, since he lost out his starting job to him (and Mahomes has a lot of flaws). Round 6
NFL Comparison: Dan Orlovsky
Joshua Dobbs, Tennessee (6’3”, 205#)
A poor-man’s Deshaun Watson. Very similar style when you watch the film but just isn’t as dynamic or strong an athlete. Spins the ball pretty well and spreads it out to his receivers. Has experience as starter since freshmen year with 37 career starts. Runs the option and can threaten defenses with his legs. Not an NFL starter but if he mirrors your starter and can run your system he’s not a bad option. I’m kind of afraid the Steelers will like him because he reminds me of Omar Jacobs, Tee Martin, Dennis Dixon types we’ve drafted late in the past. Round 7-FA
NFL Comparison: Dennis Dixon
Mitch Trubisky*, North Carolina (6’3”, 220#)
Athletic, gunslinger type that likes to push the ball downfield and trusts his arm. Pretty decent when pushed off his spot and keeps eyes downfield and can throw at odd arm angles. Velocity is above average and shows nice power off back foot and when feet aren’t perfect. One year starter and a bit inexperienced and is rising as a prospect. Potential is there to be best QB in this class and only one to show ability to attack all parts of the field consistently. Because of age/experience probably needs a year to mature, but talent is there to be long-term starter in the NFL. Round 1
NFL Comparison: Philip Rivers
One-year starter (13 games, 8-5), 34.3 att/game, 68% thrower, 30-6 TD-INT
Deshaun Watson*, Clemson (6’2”, 210#)
Very production, winning prospect that came in 3rd and 2nd in Heisman voting the last two seasons. 31-3 record as starter (lost first start as freshman) and ending as winning championship QB vs. Alabama. Played with lots of elite speed athletes in spread system. Explosive athlete with his legs with quick acceleration and movement skills. Can really burn defenses with designed runs and scrambles and gain chunks of yards quick. Good and adequate arm talent with quick wrist snap and velocity. Not a bad deep ball. Athletic talent to make rollouts look easy. Very similar to a college/rookie version of Robert Griffin III and could have that type of immediate success in right system/coaching with good athletes around him. Also similar to Griffin in his body shape and possible concerns about taking hits but he looks to protect his body much better than Griffin ever did/does. Long term evolution as a QB is tough to predict and while short term success is possible (maybe even likely) based on his explosive athleticism how he adjusts and grows will ultimately decide if he can produce a consistent top-10 offense. Round 1-2
NFL Comparison: Robert Griffin III
34 starts, 31-3 record, 35 att/game + 12 rushing att/game, 86-31 TD-INT in starts (26 rushing TD’s), 67.4% thrower, 8.4YPA
Brad Kaaya*, Miami (6’4”, 210#)
He’s a pretty decent arm talent and probably throws the best deep ball in this draft class. Can really drop it in a bucket. Arm strength to throw the deep out route. Started as true freshman and has 38 career starts. A bit raw on instincts for position at this point and doesn’t quite have the nuance of a great field general. A bit light in the seat/thighs but has frame to get bigger if necessary. Reminds me a bit of Joe Flacco and is best in a system that likes to throw the deep ball and deep outs combined with a lot of underneath stuff to pull up coverages. That’s his game and like a lot of the other top QB’s in this class can succeed as a top-15 type QB in the league but top end is limited and likely never a dynamic top-5 or top-10 QB consistently. Round 2
NFL Comparison: Joe Flacco
38 starts, 22-16 record, 31 att/game, 69-24 TD-INT, 60.6% thrower, 8.4YPA
DeShone Kizer*, Notre Dame (6’4”, 230#)
Very big and thick in the lower half. Stands tall in pocket with a bit of a windup and strong arm. Does not throw the prettiest ball, isn’t always a tight spiral, and might be difficult to catch at times (can overthrow). Can play the big, power-O option/wildcat stuff but is not a breakaway runner and will not run away from NFL athletes like he sometimes did in college. Decent on the move and can throw across his body. Very similar mold to Jameis Winston and Dak Prescott and I think that’s the peak for him at the next level. Is very young prospect (redshirt sophomore) so he might take time to develop. Expect growing pains and similar progression to Winston but there is upside in this prospect. Round 2
NFL Comparison: Jameis Winston
24 starts (part-time first start), 29 att/gm, 60.7% thrower, 47-19 TN-INT, 8.35 YPA
Nathan Peterman, Pittsburgh (6’2”, 225#)
Strong arm with short, compact motion off the shoulder. Can make most of the throws and is very decent at rolling right (need to see a more rollouts to left). Decent athleticism for a rollout system QB but is not a wildcat option. Good scrambler at times. A Tennessee transfer and older prospect. Lacks a bit of “feel” for the game and is a bit choppy/anxious in his body language. Might be a one speed thrower and lacks ability to throw at different arm angles or feel the correct touch on shorter balls. Has experience under center and with play action. Might need work on deep ball accuracy. A very similar prospect to Derek Carr and looks very similar on tape. Carr has a bit more instincts/calmness for the game but the skill set is almost identical. That’s his top potential. Round 4
NFL Comparison: Derek Carr
25 starts, 60% thrower, 24.6 att/game, only one 300 yard game, 47-13 TD-INT in starts, 8.3 YPA
Chad Kelly, Mississippi (6’2”, 215#)
There’s a lot of old-school football when you watch his film and reminds me of old black-and-white Johnny Unitas or Ken Stabler videos. Sometimes stupid tough and exposes himself to hits. Is not a “soft faller”. Coming off ACL surgery in November and could be injury prone. Has whippy arm action with good velocity but sometimes arm doesn’t deliver what his brain sees/thinks it can. A little David Fales/Colt McCoy in his game and could hang around in the league longer than you think. Seems to have a good understanding of the game and reads. Transfer from Clemson (away from Watson). Too bad, but I don’t think he can last as a starting QB playing as reckless as he does, but could be fun, exciting backup at times. Round 5-6
NFL Comparison: Colt McCoy
22 Starts (14-8), 36.5 att/game, 64% thrower, 50-21 TD-INT, 8.7YPA
Patrick Mahomes*, Texas Tech (6’3”, 219#)
Very raw, spread offense QB. Should have stayed in school because his lower body fundamentals are horrible. All arm thrower and very inconsistent accuracy. Tape against West Virginia was bad. Is not a great threat with his legs but is best when on the move rolling out and throwing downfield to broken coverage (although accuracy is still all over the place). Arm strength is there but not elite like Kapernick or Newton (similar arm throwers with questionable lower body fundamentals). I don’t like him as a prospect much at all. I revisited Dak Prescott’s tape to compare (because Mahomes would need a similar situation to be successful) and at least Prescott has solid fundaments in his lower half and decent accuracy because of it. Plus Prescott is bigger/thicker and offers some power wildcat stuff. Mahomes is just so poor in his lower half right now he’s at least 2-3 years away in my opinion. Round 6
NFL Comparison: Dak Prescott/Colin Kapernick
28 starts, 47 att/game, 63.5% thrower, once threw for 734 yards in a game (88 attempts), 91-27 TD-INT ratio
Davis Webb, California (6’5”, 225#)
Transferred from Texas Tech after losing starting job to Mahomes and replaced #1 pick Jared Goff for lone senior season at California. Very tall and well built prospect with decent throwing motion. As with many spread systems throws a LOT of passes behind line of scrimmage (vs. Stanford I saw him throw 6 WR screens in a row). As plays get further down the field his accuracy and decision making gets worse. Did not see a lot of reads and progressions. A lot of his work is short or deep bombs. Timed, intermediate routes do not seem part of his repertoire yet. When he looks off safeties it looks premeditated and robotic. Has okay legs for his height and can scramble for a few first downs a game, but is not a running QB and won’t outrun anyone at the pro level. He’s a tempting size athlete with okay velocity that likely needs a lot of technical work. Hard to judge growth in a system due to transfer (although Texas Tech and Cal run similar offensive styles). Hard to say he’s better than Mahomes, since he lost out his starting job to him (and Mahomes has a lot of flaws). Round 6
NFL Comparison: Dan Orlovsky
Joshua Dobbs, Tennessee (6’3”, 205#)
A poor-man’s Deshaun Watson. Very similar style when you watch the film but just isn’t as dynamic or strong an athlete. Spins the ball pretty well and spreads it out to his receivers. Has experience as starter since freshmen year with 37 career starts. Runs the option and can threaten defenses with his legs. Not an NFL starter but if he mirrors your starter and can run your system he’s not a bad option. I’m kind of afraid the Steelers will like him because he reminds me of Omar Jacobs, Tee Martin, Dennis Dixon types we’ve drafted late in the past. Round 7-FA
NFL Comparison: Dennis Dixon