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FBI executes search warrant at Trump's Mar-a-Lago

So in your view, there’s no difference between a coup against a democracy and a coup against a dictatorship, and its leftist to believe otherwise?

Wow!

no i don't think we should be starting coups anywhere. The leftists part is having no consistent standard. If a republican gets involved in something he's a warmonger but if it serves Dem agenda, it's all good.

Running an air conditioner bad. Charging an electric vehicle is good.
 
Christ it's only right there in my prior post and reported in nearly every writing about this incident. The DOJ knew about these documents for 18-19 months before acting on them.







Do you live under a rock? I'll repeat, you suck at this.

Sucking at this is you not being able to discern that the DOJ obviously wasn’t aware of all of documents in Trumps possession. If they were, how would have Trumps people been able to misrepresent what had been turned over? What information would the informant be able to provide that the DOJ didn’t already have? Please, do explain.
 
If anyone can decipher Flog's gibberish, please help?

God I hope this person doesn't write as a core requirement in his profession.

Er....let me take a stab at what I think he might thinks he's saying.

Sucking at this is you not being able to discern that the DOJ obviously wasn’t aware of all of documents in Trumps possession.

Link?

If they were, how would have Trumps people been able to misrepresent what had been turned over?

Link?

What information would the informant be able to provide that the DOJ didn’t already have? Please, do explain.

"We know that four days after the raid the Washington Post, and no other news outlet, cited “anonymous sources” to claim that the documents contained vital “nuclear secrets”—secrets so vital that the documents were not recovered for 19 months, and so “secret” that their alleged unsecured status was announced in a major national newspaper."

"Why did the DOJ wait 18 months to retrieve the sensitive documents Trump kept? “I don't know, but if the Trump people represented that they provided all the classified or national security information and didn't, that's a serious problem,” Rep. Schiff"

"If these documents were so important, if it was all this classified information, and it was so important, why wait 18 months? Why would Merrick Garland...if these documents were so important, why wait so long? If they were looking for specific information, why was a search warrant so broad to allow for a fishing expedition? "

Meanwhile, a man who voted twice against Trump, a pretty well known law professor...


Or


Late Monday, the Wall Street Journal revealed that US Attorney General Merrick Garland deliberated for weeks before signing the application for a search warrant of former President Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago residence. The WSJ published the claims from unidentified sources, writing,

Attorney General Merrick Garland deliberated for weeks over whether to approve the application for a warrant to search former President Donald Trump’s Florida home, people familiar with the matter said, a sign of his cautious approach that will be tested over the coming months.

The decision had been the subject of weeks of meetings between senior Justice Department and FBI officials, the people said. The warrant allowed agents last Monday to seize classified information and other presidential material from Mar-a-Lago.

The WSJ article goes on to say that Garland’s next deliberative test is to consider if the DOJ should bring charges against Trump. Which is one way to set up a pretext — as if Garland deserves credit for being merciful in light of the fact nobody has been able to articulate the specific allegations, or evidence, or much of anything to this point.

In fact, Garland’s DOJ has opposed releasing the affidavit where the DOJ lays out their case for probable cause for the judge to issue the search warrant. The DOJ wants to keep the affidavit sealed, or heavily redact it if the judge decides to release it to the media because the DOJ claims it will compromise their investigation.

To put this in perspective, consider the totality of recent reports on the Mar-a-Lago FBI raid:




If there’s one theme here it’s that we can’t get a straight answer from the agencies. What evidence did the DOJ have? Oh, we can’t know that because it will impair their investigation. Why did they take Trump’s passports? Well, they don’t have his passports because they are returning the passports and played semantics instead of outright saying that to make Trump’s claim look dishonest. Why did they wait 18 months if this was imperative to national security? Schiff: “I don’t know, but if…”

If the AG had weeks to deliberate how real could any potential threat or emergency be? If Garland had a legal duty to carry out, why did he take weeks to sleep on it? If he had a solid probable cause, why are they trying to hide that from the public? Why is the WSJ suggesting he will have to deliberate into the future about prosecution of a crime? Really? He didn’t think about that in the weeks he took to ponder a raid on a former president’s home?
 
It come down to one of three things, either the feds didn’t realize these super sensitive hardcopy documents, (which, by the way are tracked to know who has copies of them) were missing or tgey knew and failed to act on it for a prolonged period of time… if you don’t like those two options the third is this is just another nothingburger before tge midterms to keep the base from revolution
 
It come down to one of three things, either the feds didn’t realize these super sensitive hardcopy documents, (which, by the way are tracked to know who has copies of them) were missing or tgey knew and failed to act on it for a prolonged period of time… if you don’t like those two options the third is this is just another nothingburger before tge midterms to keep the base from revolution

Yep and the chances option #1 happened are slim and none.
 
If anyone can decipher Flog's gibberish, please help?

God I hope this person doesn't write as a core requirement in his profession.

Er....let me take a stab at what I think he might thinks he's saying.



Link?



Link?



"We know that four days after the raid the Washington Post, and no other news outlet, cited “anonymous sources” to claim that the documents contained vital “nuclear secrets”—secrets so vital that the documents were not recovered for 19 months, and so “secret” that their alleged unsecured status was announced in a major national newspaper."

"Why did the DOJ wait 18 months to retrieve the sensitive documents Trump kept? “I don't know, but if the Trump people represented that they provided all the classified or national security information and didn't, that's a serious problem,” Rep. Schiff"

"If these documents were so important, if it was all this classified information, and it was so important, why wait 18 months? Why would Merrick Garland...if these documents were so important, why wait so long? If they were looking for specific information, why was a search warrant so broad to allow for a fishing expedition? "

Meanwhile, a man who voted twice against Trump, a pretty well known law professor...


Or


Late Monday, the Wall Street Journal revealed that US Attorney General Merrick Garland deliberated for weeks before signing the application for a search warrant of former President Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago residence. The WSJ published the claims from unidentified sources, writing,



The WSJ article goes on to say that Garland’s next deliberative test is to consider if the DOJ should bring charges against Trump. Which is one way to set up a pretext — as if Garland deserves credit for being merciful in light of the fact nobody has been able to articulate the specific allegations, or evidence, or much of anything to this point.

In fact, Garland’s DOJ has opposed releasing the affidavit where the DOJ lays out their case for probable cause for the judge to issue the search warrant. The DOJ wants to keep the affidavit sealed, or heavily redact it if the judge decides to release it to the media because the DOJ claims it will compromise their investigation.

To put this in perspective, consider the totality of recent reports on the Mar-a-Lago FBI raid:







If there’s one theme here it’s that we can’t get a straight answer from the agencies. What evidence did the DOJ have? Oh, we can’t know that because it will impair their investigation. Why did they take Trump’s passports? Well, they don’t have his passports because they are returning the passports and played semantics instead of outright saying that to make Trump’s claim look dishonest. Why did they wait 18 months if this was imperative to national security? Schiff: “I don’t know, but if…”

If the AG had weeks to deliberate how real could any potential threat or emergency be? If Garland had a legal duty to carry out, why did he take weeks to sleep on it? If he had a solid probable cause, why are they trying to hide that from the public? Why is the WSJ suggesting he will have to deliberate into the future about prosecution of a crime? Really? He didn’t think about that in the weeks he took to ponder a raid on a former president’s home?
Wow, you spent all weekend putting that together, didn’t you?

You refute yourself. How is the DOJ on a fishing expedition if they were already fully aware of what Trump had taken? Pick an argument.
 
It feels politically charged… they just cannot explain away why this super drastic thing was done to him when nothing of that level has ever been done in a similar case…

Look, I’m not a trump voter. Im not defending the dude because of a rooting interest… I just know that since the dude won that election, I have gotten a nonstop barrage of absolutely absurd and grossly inflated accusations against him… on my phone… as negative and clearly politically charged stories from NBC, CNN, and other networks on a near daily basis…

It’s tiring… and this… when Obama left office and some of my conservative friends were giddy about pursuing similar issues, I told them that stuff against ex presidents NEVER goes anywhere… all the precedent was in their favor…

Now to the Republican credit, they didn’t pursue it… i think they learned their lesson with Clinton about political witch hunts…

Dems these days are ******* stupid and unhinged… there is a reason that the only independents that really back them are the ones that are extremely hard core left socialists that don’t register as Democrats… basically the communists without the balls to actually publicly register as communists

( for the Republicans here who always peg the Dems as communists, ill introduce you to a few that are really down that path… the stupid oversocialist Dems aren’t nearly left wing enough for them, though they often seem to vote that way figuring baby steps)
 
Wow, you spent all weekend putting that together, didn’t you?

You refute yourself. How is the DOJ on a fishing expedition if they were already fully aware of what Trump had taken? Pick an argument.

No son, I was on the road all weekend, got home last night late and in seconds responded.

Prove the DOJ wasn't aware Trump had these documents for 18 months. That's on you, not us. We and the media have shown you that they knew about the documents for 18 months. Even Schiff concedes on the point.

Thanks for using cohesive English this go round. I know it was a struggle.
 
It IS politically charged… they just cannot explain away why this super drastic thing was done to him when nothing of that level has ever been done in a similar case…

Look, I’m not a trump voter. Im not defending the dude because of a rooting interest… I just know that since the dude won that election, I have gotten a nonstop barrage of absolutely absurd and grossly inflated accusations against him… on my phone… as negative and clearly politically charged stories from NBC, CNN, and other networks on a near daily basis…

It’s tiring… and this… when Obama left office and some of my conservative friends were giddy about pursuing similar issues, I told them that stuff against ex presidents NEVER goes anywhere… all the precedent was in their favor…

Now to the Republican credit, they didn’t pursue it… i think they learned their lesson with Clinton about political witch hunts…

Dems these days are ******* stupid and unhinged… there is a reason that the only independents that really back them are the ones that are extremely hard core left socialists that don’t register as Democrats… basically the communists without the balls to actually publicly register as communists

( for the Republicans here who always peg the Dems as communists, ill introduce you to a few that are really down that path… the stupid oversocialist Dems aren’t nearly left wing enough for them, though they often seem to vote that way figuring baby steps)
FIFY
 
No son, I was on the road all weekend, got home last night late and in seconds responded.

Prove the DOJ wasn't aware Trump had these documents for 18 months. That's on you, not us. We and the media have shown you that they knew about the documents for 18 months. Even Schiff concedes on the point.

Thanks for using cohesive English this go round. I know it was a struggle.
From the timeline I saw, they knew he was in possession of National Archive property as of May 2021. If they knew exactly what he had, why would they have left with only some of the documents prior to the raid?
 
From the timeline I saw, they knew he was in possession of National Archive property as of May 2021. If they knew exactly what he had, why would they have left with only some of the documents prior to the raid?

Maybe you should ask the people writing the articles providing facts that completely disagree with your perceived set of facts? They've known about these docs since he left office. Again...even Pencil Neck Schiff agrees.
 
From the timeline I saw, they knew he was in possession of National Archive property as of May 2021. If they knew exactly what he had, why would they have left with only some of the documents prior to the raid?
And the timelines you saw are all from "those" sites that hate Trump and want him gone. You must loathe objectivity.
 
Wow, you spent all weekend putting that together, didn’t you?

You refute yourself. How is the DOJ on a fishing expedition if they were already fully aware of what Trump had taken? Pick an argument.

The fishing part is when they went through Milania’s underwear drawer and then took a bunch of documents unrelated to what they were pretending to care about.
 
The fishing part is when they went through Milania’s underwear drawer and then took a bunch of documents unrelated to what they were pretending to care about.
No doubt to prove the Russian collusion. If I was DJT, I would hide all that incriminating evidence in Melania's drawers.
 



Pretty good interview yesterday begins about 18:50 of vid. Kash Patel asserts that the raid is another extension of russiagate with all the same players and the sole purpose was to see if there were copies of the russiagate documents that were declassed but they need to hide. And these documents are bad enough to bring down the house. I would assume Trump has the docs with the full purpose of releasing them for political advantage, and he's not stupid enough for them to be stored in his home. First I've heard of this we woulda had a leak in the Post or Times by now other than nuclear bs no?

I'm confused on the part where the National Archives has any authority to retain the docs after Presidential declass. Maybe this?

Establishes procedures for Congress, courts, and subsequent Administrations to obtain “special access” to records from NARA that remain closed to the public, following a privilege review period by the former and incumbent Presidents; the procedures governing such special access requests continue to be governed by the relevant provisions of E.O. 13489.

 
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Here is a good conservative opinion from the Wall Street journal

Now I don’t know if any of you are still following this, but it’s coming out that the Biden administration had memos tying it to this pretty heavily… if Biden gets directly tied to making the call that this was ok, then there is a better chance that he doesn’t get to run in 2024 than Trump doesn’t…
 
Here is a good conservative opinion from the Wall Street journal

Now I don’t know if any of you are still following this, but it’s coming out that the Biden administration had memos tying it to this pretty heavily… if Biden gets directly tied to making the call that this was ok, then there is a better chance that he doesn’t get to run in 2024 than Trump doesn’t…
Lol. He is a dim. Nothing happens to them. I bet someone buys him an ice cream cone.
 
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