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Global Warming Fabricated

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Here's a nice artice on "scientists" at NASA and NOAA fabricating data. Sure, the artice points out indisputable facts so they will attack the messenger.


http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/06/23/Global-warming-Fabricated-by-NASA-and-NOAA


Scientists at two of the world’s leading climate centres - NASA and NOAA - have been caught out manipulating temperature data to overstate the extent of the 20th century "global warming".

The evidence of their tinkering can clearly be seen at Real Science, where blogger Steven Goddard has posted a series of graphs which show "climate change" before and after the adjustments.

When the raw data is used, there is little if any evidence of global warming and some evidence of global cooling. However, once the data has been adjusted - ie fabricated by computer models - 20th century 'global warming' suddenly looks much more dramatic.

This is especially noticeable on the US temperature records. Before 2000, it was generally accepted - even by climate activists like NASA's James Hansen - that the hottest decade in the US was the 1930s.
As Hansen himself said in a 1989 report:

In the U.S. there has been little temperature change in the past 50 years, the time of rapidly increasing greenhouse gases — in fact, there was a slight cooling throughout much of the country.


However, Hansen subsequently changed his tune when, sometime after 2000, the temperatures were adjusted to accord with the climate alarmists' fashionable "global warming" narrative. By cooling the record-breaking year of 1934, and promoting 1998 as the hottest year in US history, the scientists who made the adjustments were able suddenly to show 20th century temperatures shooting up - where before they looked either flat or declining.

But as Goddard notes, the Environmental Protection Agency's heatwave record makes a mockery of these adjustments. It quite clearly shows that the US heat waves of the 1930s were of an order of magnitude greater than anything experienced at any other time during the century - far more severe than those in the 1980s or 1990s which were no worse than those in the 1950s.

These adjustments, however, are not limited to the US temperature data sets. Similar fabrications have taken place everywhere from Iceland to Australia.

The fact that supposedly reputable scientists can make these dishonest adjustments and get away with it is, notes long-time sceptic Christopher Booker, one of the more remarkable anomalies of the great climate change scam.

When I first began examining the global-warming scare, I found nothing more puzzling than the way officially approved scientists kept on being shown to have finagled their data, as in that ludicrous “hockey stick” graph, pretending to prove that the world had suddenly become much hotter than at any time in 1,000 years. Any theory needing to rely so consistently on fudging the evidence, I concluded, must be looked on not as science at all, but as simply a rather alarming case study in the aberrations of group psychology.
 
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There is global warming and that's a fact. And it's all part of a natural phenomena called interglacial warming. It's been going on for thousands of years. Screw scientist.
 

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Evidently nobody here is concerned with the carbon footprints of redundant threads.
 

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careful, we have AGW cult members here, they are too poor to afford meds too


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I believe there is global warming, due in part to the fact of man's actions on the planet. Clearing the Rain Forests, clearing lands, building on those lands, the runoff from streets into the sewers, etc etc etc
We are doing a lot to either help promote global warming (all humans everywhere, not just our country) by promoting building of cities, transportation, over-fishing the oceans, and things of that nature.

I don't believe it's something that can be casually dismissed. I also do not think that scientists should skew the information and data they collect to favor their own agendas.
 

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I believe there is global warming...

So do I. And there's global cooling.

When Bjarni Herjolfsson discovered Newfoundland, he called it Vinland because of the grape vines that were there at the time. Leif Eriksson also called it Vinland for the same reason, as did the other Vikings that saw the same grape vines there. That was more than 1000 years ago and the vines have long since vanished from the change in climate. And so did the Viking settlements there and in Greenland within a few hundred years. Vinland is referenced numerous times in "Landnámabók" (the Book of the Settlement of Iceland), so its not a tale.

The point? There was a warm cycle that supported grape vines in Newfoundland and Viking settlements all over the North Atlantic. "Climate change" happens in 1500 year cycles.

Where we probably disagree is that short of a nuclear war, I doubt that man can affect the climate. We can soil the landscape locally. We can ravage "rain forests". We can over fish areas of the oceans. We could even have a nuclear war. And in every case, the earth replenishes itself. The only thing that might cease to exist is us. And in that case, we'd deserve it.

The notion that man can affect climate is rather arrogant of man, and should vaporize during a cross country flight. Look down at the population centers. We're puny. Nothing more than ant hills.
 

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Here's a nice artice on "scientists" at NASA and NOAA fabricating data. Sure, the artice points out indisputable facts so they will attack the messenger.


http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/06/23/Global-warming-Fabricated-by-NASA-and-NOAA


Scientists at two of the world’s leading climate centres - NASA and NOAA - have been caught out manipulating temperature data to overstate the extent of the 20th century "global warming".

The evidence of their tinkering can clearly be seen at Real Science, where blogger Steven Goddard has posted a series of graphs which show "climate change" before and after the adjustments.

When the raw data is used, there is little if any evidence of global warming and some evidence of global cooling. However, once the data has been adjusted - ie fabricated by computer models - 20th century 'global warming' suddenly looks much more dramatic.

This is especially noticeable on the US temperature records. Before 2000, it was generally accepted - even by climate activists like NASA's James Hansen - that the hottest decade in the US was the 1930s.
As Hansen himself said in a 1989 report:

In the U.S. there has been little temperature change in the past 50 years, the time of rapidly increasing greenhouse gases — in fact, there was a slight cooling throughout much of the country.


However, Hansen subsequently changed his tune when, sometime after 2000, the temperatures were adjusted to accord with the climate alarmists' fashionable "global warming" narrative. By cooling the record-breaking year of 1934, and promoting 1998 as the hottest year in US history, the scientists who made the adjustments were able suddenly to show 20th century temperatures shooting up - where before they looked either flat or declining.

But as Goddard notes, the Environmental Protection Agency's heatwave record makes a mockery of these adjustments. It quite clearly shows that the US heat waves of the 1930s were of an order of magnitude greater than anything experienced at any other time during the century - far more severe than those in the 1980s or 1990s which were no worse than those in the 1950s.

These adjustments, however, are not limited to the US temperature data sets. Similar fabrications have taken place everywhere from Iceland to Australia.

The fact that supposedly reputable scientists can make these dishonest adjustments and get away with it is, notes long-time sceptic Christopher Booker, one of the more remarkable anomalies of the great climate change scam.

When I first began examining the global-warming scare, I found nothing more puzzling than the way officially approved scientists kept on being shown to have finagled their data, as in that ludicrous “hockey stick” graph, pretending to prove that the world had suddenly become much hotter than at any time in 1,000 years. Any theory needing to rely so consistently on fudging the evidence, I concluded, must be looked on not as science at all, but as simply a rather alarming case study in the aberrations of group psychology.


You're a little late. If you go to the 'Hottest spring on record' thread page 5 post #85 you'll see the silliness of your post.

If you need a ride over there your buds can pick you up......

 

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careful, we have AGW cult members here, they are too poor to afford meds too


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People who believe there is a worldwide conspiracy involving scientists and scientific organizations from hundreds of countries to fool people, are the reason Pfizer exists. Thank god.
 

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So do I. And there's global cooling.

When Bjarni Herjolfsson discovered Newfoundland, he called it Vinland because of the grape vines that were there at the time. Leif Eriksson also called it Vinland for the same reason, as did the other Vikings that saw the same grape vines there. That was more than 1000 years ago and the vines have long since vanished from the change in climate. And so did the Viking settlements there and in Greenland within a few hundred years. Vinland is referenced numerous times in "Landnámabók" (the Book of the Settlement of Iceland), so its not a tale.

The point? There was a warm cycle that supported grape vines in Newfoundland and Viking settlements all over the North Atlantic. "Climate change" happens in 1500 year cycles.

Where we probably disagree is that short of a nuclear war, I doubt that man can affect the climate. We can soil the landscape locally. We can ravage "rain forests". We can over fish areas of the oceans. We could even have a nuclear war. And in every case, the earth replenishes itself. The only thing that might cease to exist is us. And in that case, we'd deserve it.

The notion that man can affect climate is rather arrogant of man, and should vaporize during a cross country flight. Look down at the population centers. We're puny. Nothing more than ant hills.

Excellent post, I have asked my tree hugging cousin many a time if she has ever been on a plane before. I ask her what she see's while in flight. If you answer anything but trees, fields, sand, or water then you are lying or else you are over the 1% of land that we inhabit. http://persquaremile.com/2011/01/18/if-the-worlds-population-lived-in-one-city/
 
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The Final Solution to the human problem - the Greenie Nazi's want you to die...to "save the planet"

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Al Gore’s ‘polarbeargate’ scientist forced to retire

Scientists Admit Polar Bear Numbers Were Made Up To ‘Satisfy Public Demand’

Polar bear group admits population estimates were a “guess”

Polar bear population now officially 13,071-24,238 says IUCN Polar Bear Specialist Group

The poster boys of climate change thrive in the icy Arctic: Polar bears defy concerns about their extinction

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So do I. And there's global cooling.

When Bjarni Herjolfsson discovered Newfoundland, he called it Vinland because of the grape vines that were there at the time. Leif Eriksson also called it Vinland for the same reason, as did the other Vikings that saw the same grape vines there. That was more than 1000 years ago and the vines have long since vanished from the change in climate. And so did the Viking settlements there and in Greenland within a few hundred years. Vinland is referenced numerous times in "Landnámabók" (the Book of the Settlement of Iceland), so its not a tale.

The point? There was a warm cycle that supported grape vines in Newfoundland and Viking settlements all over the North Atlantic. "Climate change" happens in 1500 year cycles.

Where we probably disagree is that short of a nuclear war, I doubt that man can affect the climate. We can soil the landscape locally. We can ravage "rain forests". We can over fish areas of the oceans. We could even have a nuclear war. And in every case, the earth replenishes itself. The only thing that might cease to exist is us. And in that case, we'd deserve it.

The notion that man can affect climate is rather arrogant of man, and should vaporize during a cross country flight. Look down at the population centers. We're puny. Nothing more than ant hills.

I guess we could call it polluting. One specific case would be the Gulf oil spill. Instead of letting nature run it's course, we inject chemicals into the leak to stop the leak. Now, there is a "dead zone" around that area. There are microbes that can and do consume oil and essentially put it back into the environment. Injecting the chemical that was used managed to kill off a large portion of the ecosystem there. Not to say some creatures/plants wouldnt have died from being covered by the oil spill, but I do believe we did more harm than good when we did that. I'm just against offshore drilling for the reason that the seabed isn't as stable as soil. A leak can spring anywhere, but when it's in the ocean, a mile down, it's not a quick and easy fix. As well, the added pressure on the pipes and entire assembly takes a toll.
 

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How can we forget the medias daily televising of all that oil gushing from the ocean floor....and the fear mongering over the havoc it would reek on the ecosystem, economy blah blah....I bet Polly was one of those envonmental nut jobs holding hands and singing Kumbaya on that Florida beach.

The fact is that the oil that was discharged was a drop in the bucket compared to the oil that has already seeped from the ocean floor naturally.

http://aoghs.org/offshore-history/california-oil-seeps/
 

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EXACTLY.
and had we just left it alone, nature would have taken care of it. instead we have to inject our chemical peni into another hole and fill it with goo.
 

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I live in PA, hell I wish global warming WAS real. It's almost July and we haven't seen 90* yet.
 

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I live in PA, hell I wish global warming WAS real. It's almost July and we haven't seen 90* yet.
it's 85 when I take the dogs out in the morning.
 

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it's 85 when I take the dogs out in the morning.

Yeah but for you it's 85* in January too and not -4* with a wind chill of -20*. Gawd I can't stand another winter here....
 

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winter here is about 3 weeks long.
gets down to around 20 a few nights, but the constant wind blowing from the gulf makes it feel a lot colder.

not -20 ... but cold.
 

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How about we drop the idea of Global Warming and Climate Change and just reduce the amount of pollution that we spew out for, you know, having a clean Earth to live on.
 

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How about we drop the idea of Global Warming and Climate Change and just reduce the amount of pollution that we spew out for, you know, having a clean Earth to live on.
The USA is a lot cleaner than it used to be. I suggest you go to China, India, or Russia and change their attitude. Let us know how it works out.

 

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I'm all for lowering pollution. But don't do it under false pretenses. Give me x money or the world will end isn't being green, it's being Dr. Evil.
 

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I truly do not give a **** about my carbon footprint. It has zero impact. I burn a hell of a lot of wood, drive an SUV a lot of miles, don't recycle, work in the steel and chemical industries and I feel no guilt whatsoever.
 

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How about we drop the idea of Global Warming and Climate Change and just reduce the amount of pollution that we spew out for, you know, having a clean Earth to live on.

Most people don't have a problem with this idea. The problem is when you allow politics to determine what is "pollution", especially if it is done so by unelected beaurocrats (sp?). Get the EPA to declar the CO2, or excess CO2, is "pollution" and, well, you can see what I mean.
 
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