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deljzc said:
But I strongly feel an outlaw of abortions is not fair. The privileged will be able to get them. The non-privileged won't. And I hate that. And I think making abortion illegal would harm a lot more people.
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No one is talking about outlawing abortions. We're talking about not giving Planned Parenthood corporate welfare.
 
deljzc said:
I asked my wife about it and she says she went to planned parenthood back in college. No abortions. Just simple checkups and birth control. No doctoranization.
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So when you make claims that people on SN can't complain about Planned Parenthood because they've never stepped inside one, you are the Pot calling the Kettle black. Thank you. We can all speak with our wives, gfs, significant others about their OB/GYN experiences. You're no different than most if not the rest on here.

deljzc said:
If we wanted to really offer choices, I'm kind of of the opinion maybe we pay mothers to put up babies for adoption. Not a lot of money. Not enough to turn them into baby makers. But hell, offer $2500 or something in planned parenthood to deliver to term and offer up for adoption or you can pay $500 for an abortion. I wouldn't be against something like that.
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This absolutely would turn them into baby makers. This would exacerbate the enormous welfare problem we have in this country, already. LBJ would love you. You take $2500 per baby, add it to the Government subsidies we provide per child today, and what you're offering up is like an annual bonus. Sorry man, that idea's a dud.

deljzc said:
You have to sign a contract stating no drugs. Submit to drug tests and health care and checkups. It's not a whole bunch of money in the scheme of things but maybe it prevents a few abortions.
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Any time someone rational suggests that those on welfare or subsidies should be drug tested, Libtards the nation over go crazy and cry discrimination. But you think this would fly??

deljzc said:
As far as using fetal tissue for science, I really don't have a problem with it. Dead is dead. What happens after is meaningless.
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Apparently you didn't watch the videos. Apparently you aren't concerned that PP is breaking the law. Legally, they are not allowed to do what they are doing. Lots of those on the Left were up in arms over Kim Davis not following the LAW and letting her personal beliefs interfere with her legal duties. But it's ok to flip the script and justify PP breaking the law nationwide (not just in one county) due to senseless rationalizations?

deljzc said:
Most are done because health care in this country doesn't pay for a sonogram until 20 weeks so if they find something wrong with the fetus genetically, parents should have a choice to terminate.
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This sounds a lot like conjecture and opinion. Studies have been conducted on this. For instance, the Finer study shows that poverty tends to be a major factor, as in mothers need to raise the money for abortions they cannot afford, leading to lots of late term abortions. Which opens up a whole other can of worms to discuss that I won't.

Here are some other noted reasons:
- In one study, women under the age of 18 years took longer than older women to acknowledge pregnancy symptoms and take a pregnancy test.
- Poor women were twice as likely as wealthier women to experience delays due to “making arrangements.”
- A delay in confirming pregnancy may be associated with obesity, abuse of drugs or alcohol, a fear of abortion, or being unsure of one’s menstrual cycle.
- Research also shows that having had a prior second-trimester abortion is a strong predictor for second-trimester abortion, suggesting some underlying factors in a woman’s life that limit her ability to take control of a situation.
- A case study report suggests that some women delay because they are conflicted and take more time to resolve whether they can carry a pregnancy term, place their child for ad
option or end their pregnancy.

deljzc said:
I think that is what is lost in all of this. 2nd trimester abortions aren't happening as a birth control method by mom's walking in off the street. Most are happening this late in pregnancies because something is seriously ****** up with the fetus that wasn't discovered until the 20 week sonogram.
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Studies say you are wrong.

deljzc said:
That's just my opinion. If I was judge, jury and executioner, I'd make a law that after 16 weeks, you have to get sign-off on an abortion from a gynecologist that something is wrong with fetal development or the health of the mother was at risk.
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We could agree on this, though it will never happen in today's society.

deljzc said:
And I think the left-wing would consent to logical restrictions on abortion.
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I think you're smoking crack. The Left wing has no problem with breaking the law, harvesting organs from live fetuses, and even when presented with videos of these murderous acts, justify them away. Yet you somehow believe they'd consent to logical restrictions?
 
I must complain about the uncalled for hijacking of this thread. There is already a Planned Parenthood thread. This thread is about the 700 late-term abortions that Muslims performed on each other.
 
Ron Burgundy said:
This thread is about the 700 late-term abortions that Muslims performed on each other.
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And the hits keep coming.

http://speisa.com/modules/articles/index.php/item.1980/the-largest-mosque-in-europe-is-on-fire.html

THE LARGEST MOSQUE IN EUROPE IS ON FIRE

More than 50 firefighters are tackling a huge blaze at a mosque in South London, reports the Mirror.

Most of Baitul Futuh - said to be the largest mosque in Western Europe - is on fire, according to the fire service.

London Fire Brigade sent eight fire engines to the scene in Morden just after midday.

The blaze is affecting the ground and first floor. Huge pillars of black smoke can be seen from some distance.

London Ambulance Service is on the scene and has taken one person to hospital for smoke inhalation.

Roads have been closed and drivers are being advised to avoid the area.

The £15million mosque can hold up to 10,000 people and opened in 2003.

It was built by Britain's Ahmadi Muslims who opened London's first mosque nearly 80 years ago.
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These memes are KILLING me. Busting out the Mutley laugh?? CLASSIC.
 
Burn baby burn..it's a muslim inferno...burn baby burn..burn that mother down.
 
Wasn't there an uproar after 9-11 when supposedly some people in a Dunkin Donuts were cheering during the crash? I know it was a false rumor, but isn't that basically what you guys are doing here?

I think it's pretty low class. Shows your true stripes in my opinion.
 
deljzc said:
Wasn't there an uproar after 9-11 when supposedly some people in a Dunkin Donuts were cheering during the crash? I know it was a false rumor, but isn't that basically what you guys are doing here?

I think it's pretty low class. Shows your true stripes in my opinion.
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A false rumor...those fictional guys were bad...our enemies died ...wait, what????
 
deljzc said:
Wasn't there an uproar after 9-11 when supposedly some people in a Dunkin Donuts were cheering during the crash? I know it was a false rumor, but isn't that basically what you guys are doing here?

I think it's pretty low class. Shows your true stripes in my opinion.
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Thank you. :thumb:
There are still several million Muslims who want to kill you though.
 
Can you imagine seeing Vis, Del, and Tibs during WWII? Running around sobbing and putting flowers on the graves of German and Japanese soldiers who died trying to kill Americans?

Modern-day Jane Fondas.
 
deljzc said:
Wasn't there an uproar after 9-11 when supposedly some people in a Dunkin Donuts were cheering during the crash? I know it was a false rumor, but isn't that basically what you guys are doing here?.
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and you know this....how ?

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Now now, we all know all Muslims aren't our enemies. Only like 50% of American Muslims believe in sharia law, and only 25% support jihad to enforce it...but hey, I'm sure the numbers aren't much higher among people who go to this event. Uh huh. .

I look at this more like a Darwin award thing. Would you go someplace where hundreds of people get trampled to death every year? I wouldn't. I wouldn't even go see the Pope for fear of getting stuck in traffic or not being able to find a parking space. And you folks say we Christians are crazy.
 
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I'm still a little confused at what your policy is exactly towards Islam.

There are more muslims in the world than christians. They are about 1.5 billion people strong throughout the world. Obviously you think Islam is bad. But what is the exact policy you propose? Do you ban the religion on American soil? Has that ever been done in America ever?

I'm fine with a firmer foreign policy towards Sharia. I realize full well it's not compatible with our Constitution. But you can't make it illegal, can you? Do you want to allow "marking" of muslims in the United States? Make them wear arm-bands so we all know when they come into a theater or sit down next to you at McDonalds? Is that what you want?

I don't really understand. I understand the hate. I understand the non-tolerance. I don't understand what policies you are really standing for as a country vs. Islam.
 
deljzc said:
There are more muslims in the world than christians. .
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Fix that first then start again.


(1) Christianity: About 2.3 billion followers. About 50% of Christians are Roman Catholics. (2) Muslim: About 1.5 billion followers. About 80-90% of Muslims are Sunni and 10-20% are Shia.Apr 25, 2011
 
I'm fine with a firmer foreign policy towards Sharia. I realize full well it's not compatible with our Constitution. But you can't make it illegal, can you?
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Yes. You can and we do. Try amputating someone's hand for stealing, see if it lands you in jail or not.

According to the Sharia law:

• Theft is punishable by amputation of the right hand (above).
• Criticizing or denying any part of the Quran is punishable by death.
• Criticizing or denying Muhammad is a prophet is punishable by death.
• Criticizing or denying Allah, the moon god of Islam is punishable by death.
• A Muslim who becomes a non-Muslim is punishable by death.
• A non-Muslim who leads a Muslim away from Islam is punishable by death.
• A non-Muslim man who marries a Muslim woman is punishable by death.
• A man can marry an infant girl and consummate the marriage when she is 9 years old.
• Girls' clitoris should be cut (per Muhammad's words in Book 41, Kitab Al-Adab, Hadith 5251).
• A woman can have 1 husband, but a man can have up to 4 wives; Muhammad can have more.
• A man can unilaterally divorce his wife but a woman needs her husband's consent to divorce.
• A man can beat his wife for insubordination.
• Testimonies of four male witnesses are required to prove rape against a woman.
• A woman who has been raped cannot testify in court against her rapist(s).
• A woman's testimony in court, allowed only in property cases, carries half the weight of a man's.
• A female heir inherits half of what a male heir inherits.
• A woman cannot drive a car, as it leads to fitnah (upheaval).
• A woman cannot speak alone to a man who is not her husband or relative.
• Meat to be eaten must come from animals that have been sacrificed to Allah - i.e., be Halal.
• Muslims should engage in Taqiyya and lie to non-Muslims to advance Islam.
• The list goes on.

I don't really understand. I understand the hate. I understand the non-tolerance. I don't understand what policies you are really standing for as a country vs. Islam
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Zero tolerance for Muslim practices that run counter to American laws.
 
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oneforthebus said:
Yes. You can and we do. Try amputating someone's hand for stealing, see if it lands you in jail or not.

According to the Sharia law:

• Theft is punishable by amputation of the right hand (above).
• Criticizing or denying any part of the Quran is punishable by death.
• Criticizing or denying Muhammad is a prophet is punishable by death.
• Criticizing or denying Allah, the moon god of Islam is punishable by death.
• A Muslim who becomes a non-Muslim is punishable by death.
• A non-Muslim who leads a Muslim away from Islam is punishable by death.
• A non-Muslim man who marries a Muslim woman is punishable by death.
• A man can marry an infant girl and consummate the marriage when she is 9 years old.
• Girls' clitoris should be cut (per Muhammad's words in Book 41, Kitab Al-Adab, Hadith 5251).
• A woman can have 1 husband, but a man can have up to 4 wives; Muhammad can have more.
• A man can unilaterally divorce his wife but a woman needs her husband's consent to divorce.
• A man can beat his wife for insubordination.
• Testimonies of four male witnesses are required to prove rape against a woman.
• A woman who has been raped cannot testify in court against her rapist(s).
• A woman's testimony in court, allowed only in property cases, carries half the weight of a man's.
• A female heir inherits half of what a male heir inherits.
• A woman cannot drive a car, as it leads to fitnah (upheaval).
• A woman cannot speak alone to a man who is not her husband or relative.
• Meat to be eaten must come from animals that have been sacrificed to Allah - i.e., be Halal.
• Muslims should engage in Taqiyya and lie to non-Muslims to advance Islam.
• The list goes on.



Zero tolerance for Muslim practices that run counter to American laws.
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Love me some Islam.....soooo sweet. Surely we can have a Muslim president. Dr.Carson must be wrong.
 
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