Guys who theoretically could be traded by the Steelers before the cutdown.

[madinsomniac]

Everyone is thinking of whom the Steelers still might trade for, but realistically it makes more sense to shop some of the excess talent they have that may be cut anyhow

Here are my top five candidates:

1. Kevin Dotson… assuming he is healthy. If they are serious about keeping Spencer Anderson, and only are keeping 8 olinemen, dotson won’t have a spot. He could be worth a low third day pick… several teams are looking for a guard…

2. Whomever they see as the 8th DLman. Yeah there are a few major stud DLmen that are going to be on the market, but they will cost premium assets and lots of cap space… for rotational backup DLinemen, the best free agent available is Chris Wormley. The next few are much older guys who may be done… there are a lot of teams looking for dline depth

3 Gunner Olszewski. If the Steelers feel comfortable with Dez Fitzpatrick as a st coverage wr then Gunner could be expendable and traded to a team looking for a ST returner. It would save some cap space for sure

4. Zack Gentry. If the Steelers really feel comfortable with Washington already as the blocking te, then they could deal Gentry. There are teams looking for Blocking Tes and Gentry actually has 9 more starts than Friermuth does … so he is a proven commodity

5. Braden Mann … yeah who trades for a punter? Actually the position does get some trade love through the years.. and the Eagles need a punter upgrade… and they put in a claim for Mann earlier, but were beaten out by the Steelers … a conditional sixth or seventh would ensure them that they get their guy this time…

And two dark horse trade scenarios:
A very unlikely scenario exists where the Steelers would want to retain Roche over Golden because Golden is older and has little special teams ability while Roche does play ST and has flashed occasionally on d as well. If they aren’t trying to stash Quincy on the PS again then Golden would be an enticing option for those teams looking for edge help.

Another is moving Anthony Mcfarland.
Its unlikely but not as unreasonable as one might think because of several factors
A. He is a returner on ST so he will have more value as a third string backup rb than those old vet Free agents available.
B. He is cheap
C. The Steelers have Heyward as an emergency number 3 rb
D. They can always call up a PS running back in a sort term pinch
E. There are some older experienced RBs available for a long term injury

I only even mention the possibility because they definitely tried out Heyward at RB last game.. they wanted to see how he performed.. and that got me thinking…


None of these guys will bring back more than probably a fifth.. and most might not really get you anything but a seventh…. But if you are going to cut them anyway it doesn’t hurt to shop them around and hope someone wants to skip ahead in the waiver process

 

[MT~Forged]

Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

 

[DesertSteel]

I'm not sure you could get anything for a couple of those guys. Maybe not for any of them.

 

[slashsteel]

I'm not sure you could get anything for a couple of those guys. Maybe not for any of them.

If Dobbs was traded anything is possible. All you have to do is match desire with need. Dotson is a plug and play starter. Milk or Fehoko could step in at DE and NT and give a team a fringe starter or at the least quality depth on a team short of it positionally.


No reason not to be able to get a 5th or 6th for Dot and a 6th or 7th for the other two mentioned. All you need is one willing party.

 

[madinsomniac]

Every year guys at that level are traded. It just matters who is desperate enough to want to avoid waivers or them signing elsewhere…
There are some key points to know who you should at least try to shop, just to see who might return something

1. Do they have significant starting experience?
2. Was a team previously interested in the player?
3. Does the player have a specialized talent?
4. Does the player have a pedigree or reputation?
5. Does the player have a cheaper younger replacement that could fill his role.
6. Is the player’s primary position and role in high demand?


So for us, Dotson falls into number 1. He is a low level starter at guard. People need interior linemen as starters right now. He would have some value… though guard isn’t exactly a super valuable position in general…

Mann would be an example of number 2… though he also is a specialist …. The Eagles have a need at punter and were recently trying to acquire him… that makes him worth a phone call at least

In the above scenarios, trading Anthony Mcfarland would fall under 3. He probably wouldn’t draw any interest just as a speed RB, there are plenty of other rbs available, but to a team that needs a returner, the combination might be intriguing enough to see them deal a conditional pick.

Trading Gunner would be scenario 4… a former pro bowl returner and solid locker room guy would draw some interest because of what he did in the past…

If the Steelers were to part with Gentry or Golden, it would be scenario 5. Both are cheap Vets with starting experience but both are expected to be secondary backups…in Golden ‘s case, olb 4 and Gentry by season end will be TE3 if he isn’t already… both also have a young guy not expected to make the roster show enough value to keep or at least be a competent PS call up in a crisis.
Now either of those players probably will not be available for a lowball offer. They are guys Kahn probably could move or keep so he will not be pushing them for whatever he could get.

Trading a DLman would be scenario 6… because the position does get dinged up, people are always looking for backup DL . The Steelers have 8 nfl worthy ones for seven spots.



The reason you try to do these trades if you can is so you have extra assets to spend if a need shows up in the season..

 

[slashsteel]

Every year guys at that level are traded. It just matters who is desperate enough to want to avoid waivers or them signing elsewhere…
There are some key points to know who you should at least try to shop, just to see who might return something

1. Do they have significant starting experience?
2. Was a team previously interested in the player?
3. Does the player have a specialized talent?
4. Does the player have a pedigree or reputation?
5. Does the player have a cheaper younger replacement that could fill his role.
6. Is the player’s primary position and role in high demand?


So for us, Dotson falls into number 1. He is a low level starter at guard. People need interior linemen as starters right now. He would have some value… though guard isn’t exactly a super valuable position in general…

Mann would be an example of number 2… though he also is a specialist …. The Eagles have a need at punter and were recently trying to acquire him… that makes him worth a phone call at least

In the above scenarios, trading Anthony Richardson would fall under 3. He probably wouldn’t draw any interest just as a speed RB, there are plenty of other rbs available, but to a team that needs a returner, the combination might be intriguing enough to see them deal a conditional pick.

Trading Gunner would be scenario 4… a former pro bowl returner and solid locker room guy would draw some interest because of what he did in the past…

If the Steelers were to part with Gentry or Golden, it would be scenario 5. Both are cheap Vets with starting experience but both are expected to be secondary backups…in Golden ‘s case, olb 4 and Gentry by season end will be TE3 if he isn’t already… both also have a young guy not expected to make the roster show enough value to keep or at least be a competent PS call up in a crisis.
Now either of those players probably will not be available for a lowball offer. They are guys Kahn probably could move or keep so he will not be pushing them for whatever he could get.

Trading a DLman would be scenario 6… because the position does get dinged up, people are always looking for backup DL . The Steelers have 8 nfl worthy ones for seven spots.



The reason you try to do these trades if you can is so you have extra assets to spend if a need shows up in the season..

Anthony Richardson?

 

[DesertSteel]

I understand all the theories. I'm still not sure our guys would fetch anything.

 

[bkwheat28]

Anthony Richardson?

Why not? We got Kenny ******’ Pickett!

 

[SteelerSask2]

I think you got to be very careful with the oline. You can get a bad run and lose two starters in a very short period of time. Now you can't keep them all but you have to be very sure with a guy like say Dotson.

 

[slashsteel]

I think you got to be very careful with the oline. You can get a bad run and lose two starters in a very short period of time. Now you can't keep them all but you have to be very sure with a guy like say Dotson.

Especially with the lack of C depth already.

 

[madinsomniac]

Anthony Richardson?

Bwahaha… i was having a conversation about him and typed his name instead of McFarland’s

Man I wish we had Anthony Richardson… some desperate sap team would chronically overpay for that guy

 

[slashsteel]

Bwahaha… i was having a conversation about him and typed his name instead of McFarland’s

Man I wish we had Anthony Richardson… some desperate sap team would chronically overpay for that guy

Oh McFarland is an interesting name, I think he squeezes on the roster with a good preseason.

 

[SteelerSask2]

Unless they make a trade or pick up a big name on the cheap it's Harris, Warren, and McFarland. And I think McFarland is a nice change of pace. It's three very different styles.

 

[SteelerFan448]

I think you got to be very careful with the oline. You can get a bad run and lose two starters in a very short period of time. Now you can't keep them all but you have to be very sure with a guy like say Dotson.

Dotson is the most tradable asset, but I'm thinking the same way you are. Quality OL depth is so valuable. I'd have to be blown away by an offer to consider it.

 

[KStilley]

Everyone is thinking of whom the Steelers still might trade for, but realistically it makes more sense to shop some of the excess talent they have that may be cut anyhow

Here are my top five candidates:

1. Kevin Dotson… assuming he is healthy. If they are serious about keeping Spencer Anderson, and only are keeping 8 olinemen, dotson won’t have a spot. He could be worth a low third day pick… several teams are looking for a guard…

2. Whomever they see as the 8th DLman. Yeah there are a few major stud DLmen that are going to be on the market, but they will cost premium assets and lots of cap space… for rotational backup DLinemen, the best free agent available is Chris Wormley. The next few are much older guys who may be done… there are a lot of teams looking for dline depth

3 Gunner Olszewski. If the Steelers feel comfortable with Dez Fitzpatrick as a st coverage wr then Gunner could be expendable and traded to a team looking for a ST returner. It would save some cap space for sure

4. Zack Gentry. If the Steelers really feel comfortable with Washington already as the blocking te, then they could deal Gentry. There are teams looking for Blocking Tes and Gentry actually has 9 more starts than Friermuth does … so he is a proven commodity

5. Braden Mann … yeah who trades for a punter? Actually the position does get some trade love through the years.. and the Eagles need a punter upgrade… and they put in a claim for Mann earlier, but were beaten out by the Steelers … a conditional sixth or seventh would ensure them that they get their guy this time…

And two dark horse trade scenarios:
A very unlikely scenario exists where the Steelers would want to retain Roche over Golden because Golden is older and has little special teams ability while Roche does play ST and has flashed occasionally on d as well. If they aren’t trying to stash Quincy on the PS again then Golden would be an enticing option for those teams looking for edge help.

Another is moving Anthony Mcfarland.
Its unlikely but not as unreasonable as one might think because of several factors
A. He is a returner on ST so he will have more value as a third string backup rb than those old vet Free agents available.
B. He is cheap
C. The Steelers have Heyward as an emergency number 3 rb
D. They can always call up a PS running back in a sort term pinch
E. There are some older experienced RBs available for a long term injury

I only even mention the possibility because they definitely tried out Heyward at RB last game.. they wanted to see how he performed.. and that got me thinking…


None of these guys will bring back more than probably a fifth.. and most might not really get you anything but a seventh…. But if you are going to cut them anyway it doesn’t hurt to shop them around and hope someone wants to skip ahead in the waiver process

When they ran Heyward out of the backfield for a series, I remembered our discussion of carrying two vs. three running backs on the game day roster. Maybe they do go with just two, not sure I like it but they're not asking for my opinion.

 

[slashsteel]

When they ran Heyward out of the backfield for a series, I remembered our discussion of carrying two vs. three running backs on the game day roster. Maybe they do go with just two, not sure I like it but they're not asking for my opinion.

Always possible with a Swiss army knife on a roster. (Heyward)

Still McFarland can help on returns and is pass catching capable with good speed.

I would lean in keeping him as Snell isn't around to roadblock this thought.

 

[madinsomniac]

When they ran Heyward out of the backfield for a series, I remembered our discussion of carrying two vs. three running backs on the game day roster. Maybe they do go with just two, not sure I like it but they're not asking for my opinion.

The risky thing is that heyward then is taking up three or four roles. If he is injured you will at least need to find a fb who can play Rb… we should have TE and Hback covered…

 

[SteelerSask2]

Dotson is the most tradable asset, but I'm thinking the same way you are. Quality OL depth is so valuable. I'd have to be blown away by an offer to consider it.

Agreed. They are under cap now. All you are getting is like a 5th for a guy with that many starts. It just doesn't make sense to me unless you truly believe he is like ten on your oline.
* looked. He is a substantial cap saving like 2.6 million. Not sure what happens to that in a trade. Again would have to be very certain of depth.

 

[slashsteel]

Agreed. They are under cap now. All you are getting is like a 5th for a guy with that many starts. It just doesn't make sense to me unless you truly believe he is like ten on your oline.
* looked. He is a substantial cap saving like 2.6 million. Not sure what happens to that in a trade. Again would have to be very certain of depth.

I'd be more in favor of a swap for a C. I think I remember last year a team trading a guy then got hit with injuries on the O-line. I would rather not roll that dice.

 

[Black & Gold Bleeder]

Miami cut Michael Turk. Punter. Lost battle with other punter... Who is better? Mann or Turk?

 

[madinsomniac]

Miami cut Michael Turk. Punter. Lost battle with other punter... Who is better? Mann or Turk?

Lets see if the eagles try to get him lol

 

[SteelerSask2]

I'd be more in favor of a swap for a C. I think I remember last year a team trading a guy then got hit with injuries on the O-line. I would rather not roll that dice.

That would be good. Tough to find a team willing to part with a good backup centre but if they need a plug in guard.....not confident in Herbig?

 

[slashsteel]

That would be good. Tough to find a team willing to part with a good backup centre but if they need a plug in guard.....not confident in Herbig?

Herbig has been banged up. But somewhat comfy with him. I am more concerned with C and the result of say Cole going down. It would be chain reaction that would either cause a low touted rookie into play or Dot into play. Either as the relief off the bench player or 2 injuries a starter. We can say that is an unknown. But let it become a known and quickly fans would be oh **** we got rid of a vet when we didn't have to.

 

[SteelerSask2]

I think they should keep Dot and better of Green or Herbig. You know how I feel bout that.

 

[SteelBuckeye]

Herbig has been banged up. But somewhat comfy with him. I am more concerned with C and the result of say Cole going down. It would be chain reaction that would either cause a low touted rookie into play or Dot into play. Either as the relief off the bench player or 2 injuries a starter. We can say that is an unknown. But let it become a known and quickly fans would be oh **** we got rid of a vet when we didn't have to.

This is why you keep Dotson this year and cut Green. If something were to happen to Cole and you absolutely had to move Daniels to Center, because Herbig's shoulder (?) hasn't gotten right, Dotson is capable of playing Guard on either side. Green is not capable of playing Center or Guard at a winning level for a sustained period of time.